NBA Owners have made proposal of 51%..Only Downhill from here

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 6 years ago '05        #1
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 NBA owners give players drop-dead offer - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

NEW YORK – NBA commissioner David Stern delivered the Players a.ssociation a take-it-or-leave-it offer, threatening the owners’ proposals will become substantially worse if the union doesn’t accept the deal by the close of business Wednesday.

“We’ve been given the ultimatum,” union president Derek Fisher said, “and our answer is, that’s not acceptable to us.”

Union officials scoffed at Stern’s depiction of the proposal, saying the commissioner is merely trying to “strong-arm” the players into accepting a bad deal.


Union president Derek Fisher says he's not ready to take the owners' proposed offer to the players for an official vote.

“The players will not be intimidated,” union attorney Jeffrey Kessler said. “They want to play, they want a season, but they are not going to sacrifice the futures of all NBA players under these threats of intimidation.

“It’s not happening. It’s not happening on Derek Fisher’s watch, it’s not happening on [union executive director] Billy Hunter’s watch.”

If the players don’t agree by Wednesday to accept the proposal – which Stern described as including a revenue split that could give the players as much as 51 percent and as little as 49 percent – then the owners’ new offer would drop to 47 percent of basketball-related income for the players and include a “flex” salary cap.

“We want to allow the union enough time to consider our most recent proposal, and we are hopeful that they will accept,” Stern said, after acknowledging Kessler had already rejected the offer.

After reports that Charlotte Bobcats owner Michael Jordan had become one of the most vocal of hardline owners, union officials were anxious for him to speak up in Saturday night’s meeting. Union officials, just as they wanted to do back at the last labor meeting that Jordan attended on All-Star weekend, were determined to throw back at Jordan many of his old anti-ownership screeds from the 1990s.

As one official said, “He never opened his mouth, not once.”

The two sides didn’t spend a great deal of the 8½ hours engaging each other, but rather had the federal mediator shuttling back and forth between rooms, a source said.

Stern’s ultimatum comes with the backdrop of player agents actively canvassing their clients to determine if there were enough votes to move forward with a decertification vote on the union, agent and player sources told Yahoo! Sports.


Before proceeding, agents and players were waiting on the outcome of the weekend’s labor talks. Several agents and players believed support would grow for a vote on dissolving the union without significant progress on a deal.

Agents and players took part in two conference calls this week on the subject of decertification. Boston Celtics star Paul Pierce(notes) has taken a lead in spearheading those discussions, sources said.

“I’ve been ready to sign a decertification petition since July,” New Jersey Nets point guard Deron Williams tweeted early Sunday. “Can’t believe we are just now going this route!”

Several agents believe there’s enough support to get the necessary 30 percent of players (about 130) to sign a petition for a formal decertification vote, but agents and players are dubious about the ability to get more than the 50 percent of the union’s 450 members needed to eventually disband the union.

After the petition is filed, a 45-day waiting period is required before an actual vote. For the players, it’s a risky proposition, at best. The eventual dissolving of the union could lead to an antitrust lawsuit in federal court against the NBA, or merely the threat of it could push the owners to a more favorable agreement out of the uncertainty of how a court ruling could adversely affect the league.

After the league’s owners met in the morning to discuss their revenue-sharing plan, Saturday’s negotiating session was overseen by federal mediator George Cohen and lasted until 1:30 a.m. Sunday. Fisher said the players submitted a new proposal in which they would receive a 51 percent revenue split – down from the 52.5 percent they had been seeking and the 57 percent they received in the previous collective bargaining agreement – if they could reach agreement with the league on specific system issues. The players also suggested devoting an additional 1 percent of revenue to improving benefits for retired players.

Stern said the league’s latest offer was derived from compromises the mediator proposed in Saturday’s negotiating session and included a revenue split that would range from 49 to 51 percent for the players. Among the other issues in the league’s proposal:

• A “mini” midlevel exception for teams that cross the luxury-tax threshold that would be available every other year and have a starting salary of $2.5 million with a maximum of two years.

• A midlevel exception that would allow teams to give a player a starting salary of $5 million. The maximum contract lengths would alternate from four years to three every other year.

• No sign-and-trades for tax-paying teams.

Fisher said Cohen didn’t present any formal ideas, instead making “what if” suggestions. The union also disagreed with the league’s description of its proposed revenue split, saying the players would never realistically receive 51 percent because the trigger mechanisms were too high.


“We just never had the sense they came in here trying to get this deal done,” Fisher said of the league’s owners.

With their ultimatum, the league’s owners hope to sway enough players into convincing the union to accept the deal. But Fisher said the offer isn’t even worthy of presenting to the players.

“There’s not a deal we can present to take a vote on,” Fisher said.

Union officials think the owners’ latest proposal continues to be pushed by a group of hardline small-market owners that includes Jordan. The union considers the penalties for tax-paying teams too restrictive and that the current proposal would take some of the league’s biggest-spending teams out of the market.

“It was a very frustrating, sad day,” Fisher said. “We, for sure, unequivocally made good-faith efforts to try to get this deal done tonight. We’re at a loss as to why we couldn’t close it out.”
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 6 years ago '05        #2
GUNIT-FINEST 
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nba is fu*ked unless the players just cave in and take slave deal nba is done. now stupid fans are gonna just sit there and tell players to take it your still making more money then me bs. smh still dont get how no one is blaming the owners this does not look like they trying to be fair they just wanna rob the player because they can. And where is the Sharing Revenue between owners wtf are they adjusting nothing just rob the players because they was to stupid in the past YEP.
 11-06-2011, 10:30 AM         #3
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
nba is fu*ked unless the players just cave in and take slave deal nba is done. now stupid fans are gonna just sit there and tell players to take it your still making more money then me bs. smh still dont get how no one is blaming the owners this does not look like they trying to be fair they just wanna rob the player because they can. And where is the Sharing Revenue between owners wtf are they adjusting nothing just rob the players because they was to stupid in the past YEP.
yea fu*k it make 1 million instead of 2.5

fu*king slaves these guys are
 6 years ago '05        #4
GUNIT-FINEST 
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 luker1920 said:
yea fu*k it make 1 million instead of 2.5

fu*king slaves these guys are
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
 6 years ago '05        #5
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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players better take this if they know whats good for them
 11-06-2011, 10:56 AM         #6
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
never use the word SLAVES when n*ggaz arguing over millions

your the idiot

i sware you die for these players.

57 percent was a fu*king steal for the players, theyre lucky they got that
 6 years ago '04        #7
notoriousthugzz 41 heat pts41
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man what AN IDIOT!!! if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
you really don't help your argument when you spell Lose as loose, not once, but twice. Loose refers to "Not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached".. you know like that LOOSE a.ss pus*y your mom has. Go read a book you dumb piece of sh*t. Also that would be you're not your. Jesus you fu*kin illiterate piece of sh*t, do you even have a GED? And if slaves are making over a mill a year than what the fu*k do you call the american public? You should have been swallowed


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 6 years ago '04        #8
dj X 33 heat pts33
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
You're stupid
 6 years ago '07        #9
CadillacVyse 944 heat pts944
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Are the owners still taking 30% off top then they split it 50-50?
 11-06-2011, 11:04 AM         #10
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how come dumb n*ggas think players cant be slaves just cuz they're being paid millions?
 6 years ago '05        #11
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 SeaJaiye said:
how come dumb n*ggas think players cant be slaves just cuz they're being paid millions?
because if they want to stop playing there's the door, its a privilege to play in the nba, they dont have to and most importantly no one is making them
 11-06-2011, 11:06 AM         #12
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 SeaJaiye said:
how come dumb n*ggas think players cant be slaves just cuz they're being paid millions?


please tell me the differences between the past slave and the modern day slave and which one you'd rather be
 6 years ago '05        #13
astroblack9 4 heat pts OP
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 StateProperty88 said:
players better take this if they know whats good for them
This. These n*ggas have no leverage. I really feel like owners are throwing bones to these n*ggas.

Honestly...if the NBA took hiatus for 2 years, they could literally re-package the brand cuz rookies/role players gon be fiending for checks

Obviously it wouldnt be as popular as now...but the 'NBA' cant die...but player's careers can
 6 years ago '10        #14
Agentzer0oo0 209 heat pts209
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I thought the players wanted 51%?
 11-06-2011, 11:10 AM         #15
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 P. Dedos said:
exactly


lol @ siding with 30 billionaires who you never see and are in the skybox instead of the 400 players you fools spend ur money on and tune in on TV to watch

these players should just flip off these owners and give it a shot to run they own league or something.... its all fun and games until their value of the franshise which was built by the players Plummet to the ground and they loose a billion of net worth
ur the number one fool on boxden. Thats hard to say.
 6 years ago '05        #16
astroblack9 4 heat pts OP
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 Agentzer0oo0 said:
I thought the players wanted 51%?
Yo...i said the same thing. I really dont know what they 'f!ghting' for anymore. I know Fish said that the players would 'never really see that 51%' but they aint gon see the 52% or whatever the fu*k they want if there's no season at all
 11-06-2011, 11:16 AM         #17
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fu*k man, the tough live of a slave


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 6 years ago '05        #18
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 P. Dedos said:
exactly


lol @ siding with 30 billionaires who you never see and are in the skybox instead of the 400 players you fools spend ur money on and tune in on TV to watch

these players should just flip off these owners and give it a shot to run they own league or something.... its all fun and games until their value of the franshise which was built by the players Plummet to the ground and they loose a billion of net worth
im siding with neither, but im not going to act like these guys are slaves because they are doing something the LOVE to do and get paid handsomely to do it
 11-06-2011, 11:19 AM         #19
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look at this fu*king dirty house an unnamed nba SLAVE player owns. fu*k man, these people need to be saved from there plantation owners

look how small that house is compared to bill gates house, its almost 100 feet more smaller in width


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 11-06-2011, 11:22 AM         #20
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 luker1920 said:
look at this fu*king dirty house an unnamed nba SLAVE player owns. fu*k man, these people need to be saved from there plantation owners

look how small that house is compared to bill gates house, its almost 100 feet more smaller in width


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lol. thats how theyre able to get away with all this sh*t, cuz dumb n*ggas like you think material sh*t + money = everything.

they get players to come in at a young age and give them a sh*tload of money so by the time they retire, they have nothing and they were used for their talents. only the major stars remain relevant after they retire.
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