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 6 years ago '04        #681
dtownboy313 
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man we couldve got aramis for those little 3 years. here he go wit this conservative bullsh*t. making it to the alcs you would think that he would wanna put us over the top. maybe he got another plan
 6 years ago '04        #682
dtownboy313 
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Anybody know about the Cespedes kid i heard we and alot other teams are looking at him.
 6 years ago '08        #683
AC_89 200 heat pts200
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The Red Sox will ink Kelly Shoppach to a one-year, $1.35 million deal today.

The Phillies have signed Dontrelle Willis to a one-year contract.

The Orioles arenearing a two-year, $8 million deal with Japenese lefty*Tsuyoshi Wada.

The Braves cut Brooks Conrad and Peter Moyland loose, the D-Backs parted ways with Joe Saunders*and*the Dodgers non-tendered Hong Chih-Kuo.

According to the Jon Heyman, the Rockies are pushing hard to land*either Carlos Beltran or Michael Cuddyer
 6 years ago '10        #684
stv18 22 heat pts22
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Cubs gonna sign Fielder or what they waiting on.
 6 years ago '04        #685
finishim 80 heat pts80
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 ilikefattygirlz said:
lol @ brew crew. terrible off season for them


same 8th n 9th inning relief pitchers, huge upgrade at third and short while gettin rid of terrible third and short players, lose fielder while gaining half the player he is batting if not 3/4 in aramis

the biggest loss this offseason is Braun if the suspension holds, otherwise, we may even better than last year if health stays up
 6 years ago '04        #686
finishim 80 heat pts80
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 stv18 said:
Cubs gonna sign Fielder or what they waiting on.
IMO it'll be you guys, the jays, or no one if he is asking too much
 6 years ago '07        #687
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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[Rock voice]FINNALLLLLYYY[/Rock voice]....no more Tek and Wake...been waiting for this day for at least 5 years.
 12-14-2011, 01:30 PM         #688
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Deadline for Darvish is today at 4PM, Estimates for the posting fee is 30-55M and estimates for his contract is 5-6yr 72-75M

 6 years ago '07        #689
theFREAK 3682 heat pts3682
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 illogik said:
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
FUN FACT: Neftali Feliz has never allowed a hit to the Mariners in 48 at-bats

I'd like to thank Jim Bowden for reminding me of this....
 6 years ago '04        #690
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239 OP
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 illogik said:
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Lowrie, Weiland from #RedSox to #Astros for Melancon. #MLB


Red Sox trading for our failed prospects

You guys really lost if ya'll think he can close in the AL East.
 6 years ago '04        #691
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239 OP
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 Lukeshuel said:
Deadline for Darvish is today at 4PM, Estimates for the posting fee is 30-55M and estimates for his contract is 5-6yr 72-75M

I hope the Yankees put on their best bluff poker face because I don't see how these dudes couldn't put up a competitive bid for the best international japanese free agent since ichiro.
 6 years ago '10        #692
ghettofire 3 heat pts
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really don't like the Giants signing the leprechaun instead of Keppi

I know it was a purely money based move but
 6 years ago '04        #693
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239 OP
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Yanks might sign Kepp too. We were trying to trade for him during the deadline to back up A-Fraud.
 6 years ago '05        #694
SacTown|B 17 heat pts17
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our time was too short together Jeff
 6 years ago '04        #695
tazbk 1 heat pts
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Mark Melancon as their closer,

Ok, Boston. Should have paid Papelbon.
 6 years ago '06        #696
SHootar 48 heat pts48
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 tazbk said:
Mark Melancon as their closer,

Ok, Boston. Should have paid Papelbon.
turrible
 6 years ago '06        #697
SHootar 48 heat pts48
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As of 5 p.m. on Wednesday, bidding for highly coveted Japanese free agent Yu Darvish was closed.

All 30 major-league teams were allowed to submit sealed bids to the Nippon Ham f!ghters, with copies to Major League Baseball and the Japanese Professional League.

Only one team would emerge victorious and no re-bids were allowed. The Blue Jays are rumoured to be front-runners, along with the Texas Rangers.

This unique posting system for Japanese free agents likely will change in the next several years, but for now it’s the way the game is played and the Jays are believed to be going all-in for a guy who as early as next season could fit 2-3 behind Ricky Romero and Brandon Morrow.

According to Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos, the winning bid will be announced on Dec. 20 at 5 p.m.

The f!ghters could announce it earlier, at which point a 30-day negotiating window opens with Darvish. If the negotiations are conducted in good faith and if Darvish does not sign a contract, he returns to Nippon and plays out his contract, becoming unrestricted following the 2014 season.

The money sent to the Japanese team will be returned to the foiled bidder. However, that is a situation no one wants.

The Jays are a player, and they want Darvish in the rotation in order to compete as much as any other major-league team. The Jays have the ability to wait well into January on a signing decision by the 25-year-old free agent. They have payroll parameters, not a budget. Most importantly, ownership at Rogers Communications has the ability to pay the undisputed ace of Nippon Ham as many American dollars as anyone in baseball. If they don’t sign him they at least had better be close.

Fans are expecting the effort.

Darvish is good, he’s impressive and he’s ready. With an impressive showing for Team Japan at the 2009 World Baseball Classic, the charismatic right-hander is arguably the best free agent starting pitcher available from this year’s crop, better even than left-handers C.J. Wilson and Mark Buehrle.

What makes Darvish unique is the posting process.

The posting process has a long and controversial history. In 1964, the Giants borrowed Japanese pitcher Masanori Murakami from the Nankai Hawks, then tried to steal him the next year. That didn’t work, and he returned to Japan. In ’94, pitcher Hideo Nomo discovered a loophole in the Japanese reserve system that allowed him to file his retirement and then re-emerge as a free agent with the Dodgers. He was rookie of the year and the NL all-star game starter.

The next Japanese League controversy came from the player’s side. The late Hideki Irabu was traded by his Japanese team to the Padres in ’97 and the pitcher didn’t want anything to do with it. He only wanted to play for the Yankees. Finally, he wangled a deal but ended up being horrible.

The compromise for MLB and Japan was the current posting system that allowed the existing team to profit but with the final decision to be made by the player.

Some star players that have gone through posting include outfielder Ichiro Suzuki, Kei Igawa, Dice-K Matsuzaka, Aki Iwamura, Aki Otsuka and Kaz Ishii. Heading into this off-season, 15 players had been posted in Japan. Of that number, eight had signed major-league contracts, three received no bids, three inked minor-league deals and only one returned to his former team in Japan after failed negotiations.

Agent Scott Boras says the whole thing is ridiculous so, of course, that means it will change in the near future. But for now, Darvish should be the first choice for the Jays to improve their rotation. The Jays are involved in other potential deals for a starting pitcher to fill out their mid-rotation. They have Billy Beane and the A’s on speed-dial for lefty Gio Gonzalez and Anthopoulos could re-open conversations with Kenny Williams and the White Sox for John Danks.

But until the Darvish decision comes down, these talks are on hold.

How much is the charismatic Darvish likely to cost his new team if he ends up signing, which is not a certainty? Consider that the most comparable star, Dice-K in ’07 received a $51.1 million posting to the Seibu Lions from the Red Sox and a $52 million, six-year deal. The Sox were alleged to have gone $10 million higher than the next highest posting, by the Dodgers. So either teams will have learned a lesson or will overreact like Boston.

The guesses for the winning dollar posting for Darvish range from $30 million-$70 million. That does not count against payroll and any luxury tax and thus is an investment rather than a payroll hit, which is good for the deep-pocketed Rogers.

Meanwhile, Darvish has even more to offer than Matsuzaka.

This guy has been a two-time MVP and a four-time all-star, throwing 93-95 m.p.h with three fastballs, three breaking balls and a changeup. He studied the failures of those that went before him and is willing to adjust to the North American routines, unlike Dice-K. Darvish has a sturdy 6-foot-5 frame with the ability to bulk up and add strength and endurance.

If the Jays signed him, they would have three solid starters at the top of the rotation and it would re-energize the city.

As Rogers demonstrated when it split the cost of MLSE and the Leafs, money is not a problem. So the Jays can either make a point and become contenders, or retreat once again into rebuilding mode.

But either way, by opening day, they must upgrade their rotation.

And by Tuesday, the Jays and their fans will know which route the club will take.
 6 years ago '07        #698
Ham Rove 3511 heat pts3511
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 finishim said:


same 8th n 9th inning relief pitchers, huge upgrade at third and short while gettin rid of terrible third and short players, lose fielder while gaining half the player he is batting if not 3/4 in aramis

the biggest loss this offseason is Braun if the suspension holds, otherwise, we may even better than last year if health stays up
If Aramis can stay healthy he will be a nice pick up.
 6 years ago '07        #699
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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Blue jays won bidding for Darvish
 6 years ago '06        #700
SHootar 48 heat pts48
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 keithbm1111 said:
Blue jays won bidding for Darvish
not sure if it's confirmed, but yeah that's what i'm hearin too

i'm jacked!! AA is da gawd



The Toronto Blue Jays are believed to have made the highest bid for the negotiating rights to Japanese pitcher Yu Darvish.

According to the New York Post, the Blue Jays have bid between $40 million (U.S.) and $50 million, outbidding the New York Yankees and Texas Rangers. The Chicago Cubs are also believed to have made a bid, but the amount is unknown.

Darvish’s team, the Hokkaido Nippon Ham f!ghters, have until 5 p.m. on Tuesday to accept or reject the highest bid.

The team does not know the identity of the bidder.

If the Jays have the winning bid and it is accepted, they have 30 days to come to a deal. Darvish is believed to be seeking $75 million over five years. Should a deal not be reached, the Blue Jays would have their money returned.

The 6-foot-5, 215-pound righthander has a 93-38 career record with a 1.99 earned run average in the Japanese league.
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