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 10-28-2011, 09:32 AM         #21
Brassmonkey3333 
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well that's why i asked how you were planning to long the USD...i was looking at the FXE like i said
i totally missed what the UUP was earlier, my fault....

have you considered selling SPY calls?
 6 years ago '08        #22
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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 Brassmonkey3333 said:
well that's why i asked how you were planning to long the USD...i was looking at the FXE like i said
i totally missed what the UUP was earlier, my fault....

have you considered selling SPY calls?
No I never considered selling SPY calls. I've never wrote options, the risk/reward ratio never appealed to me at all.

I won't be doing it now either.
 6 years ago '04        #23
SpyDa 180 heat pts180
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good post
 6 years ago '08        #24
40ozHenny 38 heat pts38
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when should we buy?
 6 years ago '08        #25
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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 SpyDa said:
good post
Thanks

 40ozHenny said:
when should we buy?
Sometime before the end of the year, I'm starting to think sooner than December. But I'm waiting on the markets to top out and start trading sideways to form that right shoulder. I'm looking for us to top out around S&P 1300.

High yesterday was 1192 so I think we're about there.
 10-28-2011, 05:14 PM         #26
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 o7media said:
Simple, you either short the markets or commodities or buy the USD. Buy LEAPS (options) on etf's that track one of those.




No problem. I plan on buying January 2013 LEAPS (calls) on UUP, that would be my ideal move.

UUP is the safest play IMO because there's very little premium to be paid. But the gains will be smaller. The VXX would probably bring the most gains, but it's much more riskier because of the price. There are also other options like shorting the SPY, DIA, QQQ, etc...

in english please? im serious though...not alot of us know what that means

what does "shorting" mean
 10-28-2011, 06:26 PM         #27
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 Ed Bundy said:
in english please? im serious though...not alot of us know what that means

what does "shorting" mean
That's why I'm saying, this n*gga needs to be given a podium to speak his mind once a week.

n*gga, my dinner menu is either ketchup or BBQ sauce from Mickey D's.

We hungry.
 6 years ago '08        #28
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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 Ed Bundy said:
in english please? im serious though...not alot of us know what that means

what does "shorting" mean
Shorting basically means you're betting against a stock. But what I was referring to was buying put options, not literally shorting the stock/etf.
 6 years ago '08        #29
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 illicitx said:
That's why I'm saying, this n*gga needs to be given a podium to speak his mind once a week.

n*gga, my dinner menu is either ketchup or BBQ sauce from Mickey D's.

We hungry.


just replied to that post... see above.
 6 years ago '07        #30
Ghost Terp 18 heat pts18
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 Ed Bundy said:
in english please? im serious though...not alot of us know what that means

what does "shorting" mean


Shorting is when you basically bet against the stock. If the stocks value drops, you gain money
 10-28-2011, 06:37 PM         #31
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How do you purchase Shorts? Through the same companies such as E-Trade?

So basically, places sell the ability to gamble on a stock losing?
 6 years ago '08        #32
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 illicitx said:
How do you purchase Shorts? Through the same companies such as E-Trade?

So basically, places sell the ability to gamble on a stock losing?
Yeah you can short stocks through etrade or any other broker.

It's not so much the ability to gamble on it. I think you're misunderstanding a bit. This is the basic process:

When you short a stock, you're borrowing shares from your broker. Your broker sells these shares to another customer (trader) on your behalf....

But you never owned the stock to begin with, you're borrowing it from your broker, so you need to give it back to them at a later date. So here's how it works..

Let's say AAPL is trading at $400.00. You think the stock is going to fall to $375.00. So you short 1 share of AAPL at $400.00 and your broker gives you the $400.00 in credit.

Then, AAPL falls to $375 a few days later and you buy it back at $375. So your broker gave you $400 from a share of AAPL they gave to a different customer. And you bought it back at $375. Meaning you made $25 in profit.

But if the stock goes up, then you lose money because you'll have to buy it back at a higher price.
 6 years ago '10        #33
kennboy1 29 heat pts29
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Need more information about this.
 6 years ago '08        #34
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 kennboy1 said:
Need more information about this.
such as?

I'll let you all know when I buy whatever I decide to go with.
 10-28-2011, 09:27 PM         #35
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Very Well said sir, I couldn't agree with you more, and like you mentioned there will be millions to be made shorting/buying puts on silver/gold, etf's, overvalued companies, and the overall market.
 6 years ago '08        #36
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 neezy523 said:
Very Well said sir, I couldn't agree with you more, and like you mentioned there will be millions to be made shorting/buying puts on silver/gold, etf's, overvalued companies, and the overall market.
Yep, and there will be millions to be made on the way back up as well.

It's all just a big cycle and right now the economy needs to reset back. But once those stocks are dirt cheap it's time to go shopping :dancingcool:
 6 years ago '10        #37
kennboy1 29 heat pts29
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 o7media said:
Yep, and there will be millions to be made on the way back up as well.

It's all just a big cycle and right now the economy needs to reset back. But once those stocks are dirt cheap it's time to go shopping :dancingcool:
Yeah, so we short the markets and gold, silver, etc, and invest in the U.S. Dollar right?

You got any more sources or research (videos, youtube, articles, etc) supporting this claim? I really want to make sure this is true.

By the way, where else can I learn about how to short a stock or the market? Investopedia??
 6 years ago '08        #38
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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 kennboy1 said:
Yeah, so we short the markets and gold, silver, etc, and invest in the U.S. Dollar right?

You got any more sources or research (videos, youtube, articles, etc) supporting this claim? I really want to make sure this is true.

By the way, where else can I learn about how to short a stock or the market? Investopedia??
Well my opinions aren't based on any claims or sources. This is just my opinion, I don't listen to other analysts or predictions. If you turn on CNBC they say buy buy buy ..the economy is good blah blah blah ...99% of them are very bullish.

There are some people who are bearish like me, and some people think we're going higher. From what I've seen most analysts claim that Gold is going much higher which I think is BS ..but who knows.

And yeah check out Investopedia.
 6 years ago '06        #39
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For ADX is it better to use 25 or 30 as a level?
 6 years ago '08        #40
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 ima80baby said:
For ADX is it better to use 25 or 30 as a level?
I don't think it matters, at least I don't pay attention the parameters for ADX. And mine shows 30 because I have the ADX section small, I can drag it up and expand it then it'll show the different numbers/parameters.

Really the only numbers I pay attention to are on the RSI.
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