2011 Eminem > 2011 Jay-Z

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whose better in 2011
Eminem 84 64.62%
Jay-Z 46 35.38%
Voters: 130. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 6 years ago '04        #241
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 MasterMind715 said:
Bp3
Kingdom come
Bp2 (if it was one disc it would have been good)
u must dont know what bad albums are

BP2 wasnt bad out of 25 songs on 6 of them wasnt good

thats 19 songs that were good

2 Many hoes
as one
What they gonna do
what they gonna do rmx
fu*k all nite < i actually like this song
03 bonnie and clyde < i actually like this song

Its obvious u didnt listen to the album and skimmed that sh*t because bp2 was a good album it just wasnt to the level on blueprint



KC wasnt a bad album it was ok out of 14 tracks 5 was either ehh or bad



BP3 wasnt a bad album off that and hater was bad other than that solid
 11-01-2011, 03:56 PM         #242
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 Karamu said:
I've yet to see ANY valid points posted by OD or Snowman. No valid examples on why Jay is terrible now, instead posting the worst song he put out this year that even Jay stans know was mediocre. But I've yet to hear Hov spit something as horrid as "I'm so done with this sh*t, I may as well wipe" or "I'ma put this sh*t in park, like dog sh*t" this year. But somehow your going to use the one positive move Em's made lyrically since before Recovery against several solid verses and features Jay's dropped this year. Also Moon And The Sky remix is probably my favorite Jay verse this year, but I like how nobody acknowledges it but calls someone a hater when they don't acknowledge Em's cypher verse. Especially when Em hasn't put out an undisputely solid album since 2002 whereas Jay put out American Gangster in 2007.

"In sheepskin coats, I silence the lambs
Do you know who I am, Clarice?"

Jay is still improving his use of poetry devices till this day, but somehow hes fallen off and is awful now I'll be the first to admit BP3 is easily Jay's worst work lyrically, but even then putting it under Recovery would be a hyperbole to how bad it actually is. I can post around 25 wack a.ss lines from Recovery by listening to 3 songs alone. Don't believe me..

"You can get the d!ck, just call me the ball sack, I'm nuts"

"Michael Vick in this bi*ch, dogg, fall back, you mutts"

"Motherfu*ker, might as well let my lips pucker like Elton John
Cause I'm just a mean c*cksucker"

"The sh*t is on cause you went and pissed me off
Now I'm sh*ttin' and pissin' on everybody"

"Y'all are sitting ducks, I'm the only goose standing"

"Stick my d!ck in a circle but I'm not fu*king around"

"Motherfu*ker I'll show you pus*yfooting
I'll kick a bi*ch in the c*nt 'til it makes a queef"

"Call me a f*ggot cause I hate a pus*y"

"Drop the anvil, these are shoes that you can't fill"

"Til then I'll drop the fu*king bombs
Like I missed the pass when I went long"

"It's like apples to oranges, peaches to plums, yeah
I'm bananas, pus*y - cut off the grapes and grow a pair"

- Cold Wind Blows

"Brain-dead rims, yeah, stupid wheels"

"And step on the receipt before I foot the bill"

"Listen garden tool, don't make me
Introduce you to my power tool:
You know the fu*king drill"

"How you douchebags feel
Knowing you're disposable, Summer's Eve, Massengill"

"I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said:
Settle your fu*king a.ss down I'm ready for combat, man
Get it? Calm Batman"

"Girl shake that a.ss like a donkey with Parkinson's"

"I'm an uncooked slab of beef laying on your kitchen floor
In other words I'm off the meat rack"

"Bring in two extension cords
I'mma measure my d!ck, sh*t I need 6 inches more, fu*k my d!ck's big"

"I don't need the fu*king swine flu to be a sick pig"

"I'm spiking you, like a football"

"I'm a sh*t stain on the underwear of life"

- Won't Back Down

"fu*k the world, Feed it beans
it's gassed up, if it thinks it's stoppin me"

"Like a fu*k you for Christmas, His gift is a curse"

"He's got the urge to pull his d!ck from the dirt
And fu*k the whole universe"

"Okay quit playing with the scissors and sh*t, and cut the crap"

"fu*k your fillings, instead of gettin crowned you're gettin capped"

"Cause I ain't playin around, It's a game called circle"

"It's time to exorcise these demons
These motherfu*kers are doin jumpin jacks now!"

"Haters can make like bees with no stingers, and drop dead"

"So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof, like my daughters and raise it"

"I'm strong enough to go to the club
or the corner pub, and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar"

- Not Afraid

I'm aware your trolling btw, but i felt your dumbass deserved to be enlightened
You're reaching. Most of those lines are not wack.
 6 years ago '06        #243
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 The Blueprint said:
according to these retards logic, TI>>>>>Em cause of touchdown


Big difference there though:

1) TI isn't even Top 15.

2) That's a rare bad feature from Em, whereas Jay's verses on Renegade are at least "good." Some of his best imo.

3) Jay recorded his sh*t AFTER hearing Em's and still couldn't outdo him.
 11-01-2011, 04:00 PM         #244
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See I can't argue with jay z fans y'all try to find the good in the bad

I can say encore and relapse wasn't bad

Encore had toy soldiers mockingbird yellow brick road encore


Relapse had stay wide awake underground Beautiful insane


People consider (not stans) consider kingdom come bp3 encore relapse garbage so that's what im considering


Nas fans say nastrumads wasn't garbage fans overate everything
 6 years ago '07        #245
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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Ems a better rapper and sells way more records

his skill actually amounts to his sales
 6 years ago '04        #246
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 Storchaveli said:


Big difference there though:

1) TI isn't even Top 15.

2) That's a rare bad feature from Em, whereas Jay's verses on Renegade are at least "good." Some of his best imo.

3) Jay recorded his sh*t AFTER hearing Em's and still couldn't outdo him.


u stans have an excuse for everything dont u
 6 years ago '09        #247
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17 pages deep over some groupie sh*t
 6 years ago '04        #248
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 1LynguisticMind said:
Ems a better rapper and sells way more records

his skill actually amounts to his sales

so why didnt the album with royce sell?

and royce outshined him on about 8 of those songs?


yeah... ill wait...
 6 years ago '07        #249
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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my favorite thing about Camel warriors is that they use the "men lie numbers dont" argument against every other artist (especially Nas) besides Eminem.

but when in comes to Eminem they go quiet. they will occasionally post the line "if i was black i would have sold half" without realizing that IF EM DID SELL HALF OF HIS RECORDS HE would still have out sold jigga.

Em up on Hov by 50 million records
 6 years ago '04        #250
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 1LynguisticMind said:
my favorite thing about Camel warriors is that they use the "men lie numbers dont" argument against every other artist (especially Nas) besides Eminem.

but when in comes to Eminem they go quiet. they will occasionally post the line "if i was black i would have sold half" without realizing that IF EM DID SELL HALF OF HIS RECORDS HE would still have out sold jigga.

Em up on Hov by 50 million records
as stated before

if em was black he'd be


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or


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just as talented and similar in style but totally different careers


why is that snowman?
 6 years ago '07        #251
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 D.S.O.M. said:
as stated before

if em was black he'd be


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or


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just as talented and similar in style but totally different careers


why is that snowman?
nope if EM was black he would have sold half

so that would have been what 45 million records

whats camel at like 33million?

yall act like Royce wouldnt have blown if he was picked up by dre

and techs music is nothing like eminems dog you must really listen to hip hop
 6 years ago '04        #252
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 1LynguisticMind said:
my favorite thing about Camel warriors is that they use the "men lie numbers dont" argument against every other artist (especially Nas) besides Eminem.

but when in comes to Eminem they go quiet. they will occasionally post the line "if i was black i would have sold half" without realizing that IF EM DID SELL HALF OF HIS RECORDS HE would still have out sold jigga.

Em up on Hov by 50 million records
Em still isnt better than Jay by your arguement hes the greatest just because sales so ur saying Em > Pac Big Jay Nas

And you know that isnt true

The reason why your opinion is worthless because you dont listen to alot of hip hop u listen to your camp Shady/G-Unit and if you do listen to anything other you'll dismiss it and skim through it.

The only facts are Eminem Sales > Jay-Z Sales and Discography Jay-Z > Eminem.

Thats what we all know and some are afraid to admit it.
 6 years ago '04        #253
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 1LynguisticMind said:
nope if EM was black he would have sold half

so that would have been what 45 million records

whats camel at like 33million?

yall act like Royce wouldnt have blown if he was picked up by dre

and techs music is nothing like eminems dog you must really listen to hip hop
@ you believing that sh*t and jay sold over 50 mil worldwide check the numbers homie


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 11-01-2011, 04:29 PM         #254
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I see jay z fans ignored what I said because im right

3 classics out 12 is not better then 3/6
 6 years ago '07        #255
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 DJ Maximum said:
Em still isnt better than Jay by your arguement hes the greatest just because sales so ur saying Em > Pac Big Jay Nas

And you know that isnt true

The reason why your opinion is worthless because you dont listen to alot of hip hop u listen to your camp Shady/G-Unit and if you do listen to anything other you'll dismiss it and skim through it.

The only facts are Eminem Sales > Jay-Z Sales and Discography Jay-Z > Eminem.

Thats what we all know and some are afraid to admit it.
The only reason i brought up sales into the argument is because I find it funny that you warriors are always talking about sales and #1 albums when you are debating Jay against any other rapper, but when em comes around yall run for the hills

fact is Em > Jay

why?

well

Ems Flow > jays Flow

Ems Lyrics > Jay's Lyrics

Ems range of topics > Jays 3 or 4 subjects

Ems Technical ability > Jay's

Em's story telling ability > Jay's

Ems' Creativity > Jays

Em is an MC by blood, Jay is a studio rapper.

Jay could never bring himself to be in the cyphers or freestyling on westwood cause he just isnt built like that

/thread
 6 years ago '08        #256
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 MasterMind715 said:
I see jay z fans ignored what I said because im right

3 classics out 12 is not better then 3/6


SSLP is nowhere near a classic, fu*k outta here with that stanish behavior
 6 years ago '07        #257
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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look at the boxden poll these are people listening/discussing hip hop every day

Jay cant win a poll on here
 6 years ago '07        #258
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 The Blueprint said:


SSLP is nowhere near a classic, fu*k outta here with that stanish behavior
look at your name and who you are on boxden

@ you calling anyone a stan

SSLP is nowhere near a classic??
 6 years ago '04        #259
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 1LynguisticMind said:
The only reason i brought up sales into the argument is because I find it funny that you warriors are always talking about sales and #1 albums when you are debating Jay against any other rapper, but when em comes around yall run for the hills

fact is Em > Jay

why?

well
[B]
Ems Flow > jays Flow

Ems Lyrics > Jay's Lyrics
[/B]
Ems range of topics > Jays 3 or 4 subjects

Ems Technical ability > Jay's

Em's story telling ability > Jay's

Ems' Creativity > Jays

Em is an MC by blood, Jay is a studio rapper.

Jay could never bring himself to be in the cyphers or freestyling on westwood cause he just isnt built like that

/thread



Lyrics? You serious? nevermind Im not even gonna go in to detail of how eminem raps about random sh*t that dont makes sense but sounds ok for multis but multis is technical aspect not lyrics

Eminem doesnt have lyrics as good as jay


Eminem lyrics are ABC Rap thats what you like

Flow?

Eminem is not more creative that Jay-Z just because eminem admits he got fu*ked by his dad doesnt mean hes more creative

Jay been freestyling before em started working @ the pizza shop have u heard hot 97 freestyles? probably not
 6 years ago '04        #260
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 1LynguisticMind said:
nope if EM was black he would have sold half

so that would have been what 45 million records

whats camel at like 33million?

yall act like Royce wouldnt have blown if he was picked up by dre

and techs music is nothing like eminems dog you must really listen to hip hop
I was listening to Tech and Eminem b4 u even knew who either one of them were

go back and do some research and you'll see why i said that
u ol' i just got into hip hop when g-unit and Em got hot but i think i know everything about it a.ss stan

you all k!ll me thinking youre so hip hop but you only listen to certain artist

I listen to everything from Project Pat to brotha lynch hung to BG to Jay-z to k. lamar to cunnilynguist to the roots and can find the good in all of it.

u cant tell me sh*t about hip hop


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