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 6 years ago '09        #121
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 Cambury said:
he actually had three game winning stops as a knick...
Vs the Heat
Vs the pacers
Vs the Magic

Lets not go overboard with the media sensationalized Melo just doesn't play any defense. He has a higher IQ and defensive footwork than he gets credit, the issue is he does not hustle.
Exactly. People act like he just stands there doesn't move and let's the other guy walk in for a layup every possession. Everybody plays defense in the nba, a very select few are true on ball defensive guru's. Melo has had multiple game winning stops in half a season's time, all the while on the other end multiple game winning buckets. He doesn't want to risk injury to himself so he doesn't hustle as much as he should, which can be irking but not enough to keep him out the top 10.
 6 years ago '07        #122
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 eLLz said:
Westbrook is about as past first as Rose lets be honest. Dude plays with fu*king Durant & still balls selfish.
difference is ability,westbrook has a natural pass ability while rose doesnt.
 6 years ago '09        #123
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 r.burgundy said:
i didnt say he didnt lol.his style of play is "me 1st" though

i didnt say he doesnt play any,i just said he will neva impact a game that way.your not gonna ask melo to go shut somebody down,and like u said,he's not a hustle guy
you don't ask too many players in the nba to shut somebody down. tony allen, lebron, wade, battier, g-force, howard. who else?

edit- ill agree that westbrook can set his teammates up better than rose can tho. people swear by durant, but don't realize if westbrook wasn't there to spoon feed him at the end of some of those games he'd be takin those stupid 5 feet behind the arc shots way more often than he already does
 6 years ago '04        #124
DJ Maximum|M 47 heat pts47
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kobe aint top 3?

wow
 6 years ago '05        #125
HARBINGER|M 448 heat pts448
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as much as i hate lebron, me being from cleveland, he is the best indivual player in the NBA..

..correction, i dont hate him.. hes just a disloyal bi*ch so fu*k him and fu*k you if you support unloyalty..
 6 years ago '07        #126
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 TriniSoldier said:
you don't ask too many players in the nba to shut somebody down. tony allen, lebron, wade, battier, g-force, howard. who else?

edit- ill agree that westbrook can set his teammates up better than rose can tho. people swear by durant, but don't realize if westbrook wasn't there to spoon feed him at the end of some of those games he'd be takin those stupid 5 feet behind the arc shots way more often than he already does
batum,luol deng,nocioni,ron artest,kidd,igudala,holiday,noah,their are plenty guys in tha league who clamp up,sometimes melo doesnt even try.his idea of defense is to funnel guys into help
 6 years ago '06        #127
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 DJ Maximum said:
kobe aint top 3?

wow
why are people still surprised by this?
 6 years ago '05        #128
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 D2TheRama said:
LeBron at #1? He not even top 5

Durant and Melo not top 5?

Durant
Wade
Dirk
Melo
CP3
:rolll augh: @ melo even being top 10

I dream for a country without new york and boston sports fans

You fu*ks do not watch basketball
 6 years ago '05        #129
Sheeed 1 heat pts
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Y'all putting Dirk top 5 dude plays average defense at best and is not a good rebounder either...FOH
 6 years ago '11        #130
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 r.burgundy said:
carmelo anthony will neva impact a game defensivley.too many times he settles for pull up jumpers and he rarely posts up anymore,and he rarely swings tha ball.he's 1 of them dudes that catch it,and hold for 15 sec's doin jab steps and head fakes
yah kinda agree with you..I always said melo went hawk with the ball alot...if he the gets the ball in his hands you may as well just get back on d or post-up for a rebound because hes shooting it reguardless..
 6 years ago '05        #131
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Wade
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Kobe
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LeBron
 6 years ago '09        #132
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 r.burgundy said:
batum,luol deng,nocioni,ron artest,kidd,igudala,holiday,noah,their are plenty guys in tha league who clamp up,sometimes melo doesnt even try.his idea of defense is to funnel guys into help
and absolutely none of those players are better than carmelo or even close, and im a batum fan
 6 years ago '07        #133
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 DRAGONFLY JONES said:
yah kinda agree with you..I always said melo went hawk with the ball alot...if he the gets the ball in his hands you may as well just get back on d or post-up for a rebound because hes shooting it reguardless..
exactly lol.that sh*t is so fu*kin annoyin.he's great offensively,but people just dont acknowlegde all tha sh*t he dont do.he's tha type of dude to just call iso after iso
 6 years ago '07        #134
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 TriniSoldier said:
and absolutely none of those players are better than carmelo or even close, and im a batum fan
u didnt ask who was betta,u asked how many guys in tha league play great d
 6 years ago '09        #135
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 r.burgundy said:
u didnt ask who was betta,u asked how many guys in tha league play great d
the point was, y'all were lowering melo because he isn't a lock down defender. but the real lock down defenders in the league aren't even top overall talent, so how would that lower melo's ranking.
 6 years ago '07        #136
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 TriniSoldier said:
the point was, y'all were lowering melo because he isn't a lock down defender. but the real lock down defenders in the league aren't even top overall talent, so how would that lower melo's ranking.
i dont expect melo to be lockdown,but some of tha sh*t he does is mind boggling and just plain lazy.he almost always will giv up tha baseline in hopes that help is comin,and he damn sure doesnt hustle

but it aint like he's tha perfect offensive player either.he seems to hav gotten extremely trigger happy from 3 in nyc,he doesnt move tha ball well,he rarely posts anymore,and he's not a freak athlete
 6 years ago '09        #137
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I know it's not about rings, but one would hope that they factored in clutchness somehow
 10-19-2011, 11:55 AM         #138
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 D2TheRama said:
LeBron at #1? He not even top 5

Durant and Melo not top 5?

Durant
Wade
Dirk
Melo
CP3

Idiot.
 6 years ago '07        #139
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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on some real sh*t...Melo is better than Dirk but just hasn't proven it passed the first round
 6 years ago '07        #140
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 Cambury said:
on some real sh*t...Melo is better than Dirk but just hasn't proven it passed the first round
uhh not at all lol.dirk can do everything melo can do and he is 7',not to mention he's lights out from 3
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