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 03-12-2012, 03:05 PM         #2321
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 ReppinDaBurghh said:


The second half of the second season has been, by far, the best handful of episodes of the entire series. And the last 15 minutes of last nights episode were GREAT. Aside from Carl randomly being there to k!ll Shane.
Your entitled to your opinion, but you couldn't be more wrong...

And yeah, this second half has been great... The dragged out geeky asian/hot farm girl soap opera angle has been stellar!

And that exact same Rick/Shane morality battle every week? Na, that didn't get played out and stale. Fantastic writing!

Episode after episode of Lori doing dumb annoying sh*t and being a horrible mother(how many times is it now that her son has just walked off after being shot in the woods?), and Carl being a f*ggot... This should win an Emmy!



If that's your idea of GREAT TV... Then we have extremely different ideas of such.
 6 years ago '06        #2322
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 Illstreet said:
Your entitled to your opinion, but you couldn't be more wrong...

And yeah, this second half has been great... The dragged out geeky asian/hot farm girl soap opera angle has been stellar!

And that exact same Rick/Shane morality battle every week? Na, that didn't get played out and stale. Fantastic writing!

Episode after episode of Lori doing dumb annoying sh*t and being a horrible mother(how many times is it now that her son has just walked off after being shot in the woods?), and Carl being a f*ggot... This should win an Emmy!



If that's your idea of GREAT TV... Then we have extremely different ideas of such.



stop watching
 03-12-2012, 03:11 PM         #2323
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Oh and Burgh, when you repond to that post of mine...

Please make sure and remember to include that Drake laughing Smiley. A post of yours without it wouldn't be complete without it.
 03-12-2012, 03:13 PM         #2324
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 coolio said:
stop watching
Stop reading my posts.
 6 years ago '05        #2325
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 Hu$tLa said:
For the way shane was becoming I think it was a good ending. He's been plottin on Rick for the longest..thinkin he's this weak guy. This time Rick played him and got him first.



Plus the guy that plays Shane isn't bolting. He knew from day 1 what was gonna happen. His character lasted longer than the comics
The problem is the writers turned Shane into that guy for the last few episodes because they knew they were going to k!ll him off. They wanted the audience to feel better about it. Shane from the start of the second half of season two is/was much different than the past few episodes.

Either way, they k!lled off the best character of their show and now there isn't an antagonist. Thanks to spoilers from earlier, I know who it'll be, but it will not be the same as Shane.
 6 years ago '05        #2326
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 I'm The Dan said:
The problem is the writers turned Shane into that guy for the last few episodes because they knew they were going to k!ll him off. They wanted the audience to feel better about it. Shane from the start of the second half of season two is/was much different than the past few episodes.

Either way, they k!lled off the best character of their show and now there isn't an antagonist. Thanks to spoilers from earlier, I know who it'll be, but it will not be the same as Shane.
Yea he was the balance on the show, but I guess they are just keeping inline with the comic, i hear shane died much earlier in it
 6 years ago '06        #2327
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 Illstreet said:
Stop reading my posts.


im not complaining about ur posts just giving u a good solution to ur problem..if the show is sh*tty to u, why keep watching?
 6 years ago '05        #2328
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What would have been a better way to k!ll off Shane?

Since a few of y'all don't like how it turned out
 6 years ago '04        #2329
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 I'm The Dan said:

Either way, they k!lled off the best character of their show and now there isn't an antagonist. Thanks to spoilers from earlier, I know who it'll be, but it will not be the same as Shane.
It will be better...The replacements role and storyline are 1000 X more intense than Shane's if they do it right
 6 years ago '09        #2330
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 Sabotage said:
i think its safe to say that dr jenners message is that everyone is already infected, they turn when they die, thats my guess anyways. my question though is; if this is true, why do some turn way quicker after dying? what about those hundreds dead on the freeway and whatnot?
supoposedly the virus evolved...before you needed a bite but now its airborne and all you need to do is die

the producers gave another answer but that answer is a cop out

Interestingly, during the second season of the TV series, as the group is stopped on the highway there are multiple dead and decayed bodies that have not reanimated. Kirkman states the reason for this is because the passengers all suffered brain trauma from the car crashes.

but i watched that episode multiple times and the majority of the cars have no sign of an acccident or crash and are in good condition

fukk that scene, fukk the producers answer, im gonna just erase that scene from my memory


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 6 years ago '09        #2331
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lol...this guy explaining the virus.......says it shows 2 viruses....dude talks like he knows what he's talkin about
 6 years ago '05        #2332
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 hbk83 said:
Yea he was the balance on the show, but I guess they are just keeping inline with the comic, i hear shane died much earlier in it
I never read the comics, but my Cousin did and he told me that Daryl was supposed to die early in season one. The fans liked him so much that they decided to keep him around.

As for a better ending (reference to the other guy), I posted one earlier. There was a rebuttal, but I didn't feel like responding to say the same things I've already said. The reason Shane turned into the character he was at the end was because the writers were making him a 'bad guy' so the audience feels better about k!lling him. What was with the scene in the barn when he just starts slapping himself in the head to make him look crazy? Two episodes (less than a full day in 'their time') earlier he was fine. I understand Lori's speech could have changed him, but not nearly that much.

Another "better" ending:

You could have treated it EXACTLY how it happened. The only change is when Shane puts his gun down and tells Rick to shoot him (and says things like you can't do it, ect..) Rick should have just shot him there. This shows that Rick can protect his family and proved Shane wrong at the same time. Why have Rick talk Shane down (when he could have just shot him) then stab him THEN cry over it? The response earlier was that he still cared, well if he cared, he would have just talked Shane down, went back to the farm and then told Shane to kick rocks (then Shane could gone to the
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Another ending:

Rick and Shane get into a f!ght on the grass... (could have Rick say, "you're going to shoot me? I thought you were a man..." [or something].. which entices a fist f!ght) then during the struggle a gun shot goes off (brings the walkers) then we see the walkers in the tree line coming. Rick gets a hold of the gun and shoots Shane in the leg as Rick grabs Carl and start to run back to the farm leaving him for the Walkers. Earlier in the season, Shane questioned whether Rick could have done what he did to Otis. This k!lls Shane off, and shows Rick as a 'bad guy'...

I personally feel all three of these would have been better endings if they would have kept up with the writing instead of just trying to write Shane off of the show.
 6 years ago '04        #2333
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I'm the Dan, none of those really sound better to me...
 6 years ago '07        #2334
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 I'm The Dan said:
I never read the comics, but my Cousin did and he told me that Daryl was supposed to die early in season one. The fans liked him so much that they decided to keep him around.

As for a better ending (reference to the other guy), I posted one earlier. There was a rebuttal, but I didn't feel like responding to say the same things I've already said. The reason Shane turned into the character he was at the end was because the writers were making him a 'bad guy' so the audience feels better about k!lling him. What was with the scene in the barn when he just starts slapping himself in the head to make him look crazy? Two episodes (less than a full day in 'their time') earlier he was fine. I understand Lori's speech could have changed him, but not nearly that much.

Another "better" ending:

You could have treated it EXACTLY how it happened. The only change is when Shane puts his gun down and tells Rick to shoot him (and says things like you can't do it, ect..) Rick should have just shot him there. This shows that Rick can protect his family and proved Shane wrong at the same time. Why have Rick talk Shane down (when he could have just shot him) then stab him THEN cry over it? The response earlier was that he still cared, well if he cared, he would have just talked Shane down, went back to the farm and then told Shane to kick rocks (then Shane could gone to the
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Another ending:

Rick and Shane get into a f!ght on the grass... (could have Rick say, "you're going to shoot me? I thought you were a man..." [or something].. which entices a fist f!ght) then during the struggle a gun shot goes off (brings the walkers) then we see the walkers in the tree line coming. Rick gets a hold of the gun and shoots Shane in the leg as Rick grabs Carl and start to run back to the farm leaving him for the Walkers. Earlier in the season, Shane questioned whether Rick could have done what he did to Otis. This k!lls Shane off, and shows Rick as a 'bad guy'...

I personally feel all three of these would have been better endings if they would have kept up with the writing instead of just trying to write Shane off of the show.
Again with this really???? It wouldnt have made any sense for him to just shoot shane or leave him to the walkers cause he did care. You ever had to have a pet put down? Its like you still care for it but its better to take care of it instead of just wounding it or just let it go off on its own
 03-12-2012, 04:31 PM         #2335
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I would have written it as good ol' fashion stand off with Shane's gun jamming. Then you could proceed there with him hanging onto his last words.


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 03-12-2012, 04:36 PM         #2336
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 youknowmystelo said:
I would have written it as good ol' fashion stand off with Shane's gun jamming.

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 03-12-2012, 04:38 PM         #2337
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 s7venwords said:

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 6 years ago '05        #2338
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 moe4484 said:
Again with this really???? It wouldnt have made any sense for him to just shoot shane or leave him to the walkers cause he did care. You ever had to have a pet put down? Its like you still care for it but its better to take care of it instead of just wounding it or just let it go off on its own
Ok, that's the problem I am having. Maybe it's the bad acting, but I don't see how Rick could have cared after the way he acted. He was talking Shane down. If he truly cared, he would have told him to leave after they got back to the farm. This is the most realistic and believable scenario for Rick caring. Not talking him down and then stabbing him. That makes zero sense to me.

The problem is Shane wasn't a 'pet' to Rick. He was a friend. Having Shane go off on his own isn't the same as setting a pet free on its own.

I'm the Dan, none of those really sound better to me...
So, you liked the ending as it was? You liked them turning Shane into some psycho over a 24 hour period in which he attempts to k!ll his best friend. Then, when you want him to die, you're ok with Rick talking him down and as soon as Shane appears to be listening, Rick decides he'll stab him in the chest and cry about it?

Really?
 6 years ago '05        #2339
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To IMTheDan: Um there have been many instances showing Shane not being completely "normal":

1.) Him pointing that shotgun at rick in season 1 with that evil look in his eye
2.) at the CDC where he damn near was going to try and r*pe Lori
3.) When shane threw that bigass wrench at the window when f!ghting rick and he looked at himself in the broken glass and he looked evil, damn nearlike a zombie himself with the hunched over look

As far as you "better" endings:

If rick didnt shank shane and keep it moving back to the farm:

1.) You think Shane is just going to forgive and forget and be back to normal and work well with the group? He seemed stuck on lori and carl. Seeing Lori broken up about the whole love triangle situation and carl not wanting to take the gun to protect himself made shane feel like rick shouldnt be living and it would be best for the group

2.) Daryl and glenn both found that zombie they had captured. and basically disproved shanes bs story. They are both smart and if all four of them went back to the farm, you think daryl/glenn going to just be quiet? No! They going to say something and basically force another altercation between rick/shane cycling the whole thing over.

3.) If rick just shot shane in the leg and let him die, dont you think that would be a weaker death than Rick being up close and personal stabbing shane? And if it went down like the scenario you said the writers are basically making the "good guy" basically just as bad as shane

IMHO I think the episode is by far the best episode of the series, the second half has been the best by far. Darabount writing style works for comics but that super-slow style pacing just doesnt work well with tv shows. And I think Rick k!lling shane the way he does shows that he has changed, maybe not completely, but he is capable of living in the apocalypse
 03-12-2012, 04:47 PM         #2340
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 ThaNostalgic1 said:
To IMTheDan: Um there have been many instances showing Shane not being completely "normal":

1.) Him pointing that shotgun at rick in season 1 with that evil look in his eye
2.) at the CDC where he damn near was going to try and r*pe Lori
3.) When shane threw that bigass wrench at the window when f!ghting rick and he looked at himself in the broken glass and he looked evil, damn nearlike a zombie himself with the hunched over look

As far as you "better" endings:

If rick didnt shank shane and keep it moving back to the farm:

1.) You think Shane is just going to forgive and forget and be back to normal and work well with the group? He seemed stuck on lori and carl. Seeing Lori broken up about the whole love triangle situation and carl not wanting to take the gun to protect himself made shane feel like rick shouldnt be living and it would be best for the group

2.) Daryl and glenn both found that zombie they had captured. and basically disproved shanes bs story. They are both smart and if all four of them went back to the farm, you think daryl/glenn going to just be quiet? No! They going to say something and basically force another altercation between rick/shane cycling the whole thing over.

3.) If rick just shot shane in the leg and let him die, dont you think that would be a weaker death than Rick being up close and personal stabbing shane? And if it went down like the scenario you said the writers are basically making the "good guy" basically just as bad as shane

IMHO I think the episode is by far the best episode of the series, the second half has been the best by far. Darabount writing style works for comics but that super-slow style pacing just doesnt work well with tv shows. And I think Rick k!lling shane the way he does shows that he has changed, maybe not completely, but he is capable of living in the apocalypse
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