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 6 years ago '09        #101
NLSP42 153 heat pts153
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I cant believe there are idiots on here who believe the NBA is lying to them and that the teams didnt lose money.......yes teams are losing money....and attendance IS down....primarily because ticket prices are SO freaking high in some cities.....actually in alot of cities....to go see the Celtics and sit lower level its gonna cost 200 a ticket face value......now to take your girl and go to a game...and pay for parking....pay for tickets and get a drink....its costing 500 bucks per game (and other cities are even MORE expensive then that)..............and alot of people just cannot pay those prices today......and some cities where the teams are crap right now....people dont even want to do to that one time....forget 41 games.....and that is a HUGE problem
 6 years ago '05        #102
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 Da Pitcher said:
players are the reason the nba makes any money at all, fu*k the owners
That's true in essence but who needs who more... Those NBA owners are already rich, the return on an nba team in comparison to what you're investing is pennies. (unless you buy a small market team that moves to a big market, buy in a recession and hold until an economic boom, or etc.) Where as the players have no where to show case their talent. They need a league, an arena, a stage, etc or they would just be someone at La fitness busting your a.ss. The owners lose NOTHING with no season, hence them not rushing for a season. Come christmas time, a lot of the low end players will be struggling.
Players can be replaced but there is only one NBA....think about that. Its all about the stage
 6 years ago '04        #103
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 SeaJaiye said:
the players that negotiated in 1999 got that 57% deal, why would they settle for some 50% sh*t for the current players + future players?
case closed
 6 years ago '04        #104
justinjones 307 heat pts307
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one of the owners told steven a smith before the lockout that if the players want a big % then they can have it but they should pay for the hotels,planes,and whatever perk they get because they play.

 6 years ago '07        #105
MOTTAFOOKAH 4 heat pts
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Well I guess the money that I would be spending on Cavs tickets will be goin towards nfl or college games... This sh*t in a way is ridiculous..
 6 years ago '07        #106
MOTTAFOOKAH 4 heat pts
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 trap star 101 said:
that's true in essence but who needs who more... Those nba owners are already rich, the return on an nba team in comparison to what you're investing is pennies. (unless you buy a small market team that moves to a big market, buy in a recession and hold until an economic boom, or etc.) where as the players have no where to show case their talent. They need a league, an arena, a stage, etc or they would just be someone at la fitness busting your a.ss. The owners lose nothing with no season, hence them not rushing for a season. Come christmas time, a lot of the low end players will be struggling.
Players can be replaced but there is only one nba....think about that. Its all about the stage
this^^^^^^
 6 years ago '07        #107
MiseryCityTexas 19 heat pts19
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the bums and scrubs make more money than some all stars. the nba deserves to be in a lockput just for that alone.
 10-11-2011, 03:05 PM         #108
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dont take a decent deal, dont play period in the states1 only overseas 4 salaries that are a 50% paycut or more then you usually see in your check? The owners are wealthy, players just rich. Most these n*ggas suck in fiances n need Kobe and others the loan the $$$ lol. I wonder how long you can hold out with you spending like Mike Vick b4 he caught that case! Lol
 10-11-2011, 03:21 PM         #109
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 justinjones said:
one of the owners told steven a smith before the lockout that if the players want a big % then they can have it but they should pay for the hotels,planes,and whatever perk they get because they play.

Haslem would be riding Greyhound from game to game if that was the case
 10-11-2011, 03:38 PM         #110
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 6 years ago '04        #111
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 trap star 101 said:
That's true in essence but who needs who more... Those NBA owners are already rich, the return on an nba team in comparison to what you're investing is pennies. (unless you buy a small market team that moves to a big market, buy in a recession and hold until an economic boom, or etc.) Where as the players have no where to show case their talent. They need a league, an arena, a stage, etc or they would just be someone at La fitness busting your a.ss. The owners lose NOTHING with no season, hence them not rushing for a season. Come christmas time, a lot of the low end players will be struggling.
Players can be replaced but there is only one NBA....think about that. Its all about the stage
then shutdown the nba, players make the league and that will never change, if the players cant get paid then no one should. Players will just play overseas for that $$$, wont be as much dough as the nba but fu*k it, the nba will never be the same ever. they lose.
 6 years ago '05        #112
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 Da Pitcher said:
players are the reason the nba makes any money at all, fu*k the owners
 Da Pitcher said:
then shutdown the nba, players make the league and that will never change, if the players cant get paid then no one should. Players will just play overseas for that $$$, wont be as much dough as the nba but fu*k it, the nba will never be the same ever. they lose.
They don't lose though.... Where is Jerry Buss with out the Lakers ( a fu*kING millionaire) and now where would JR Smith be with out the NBA

and on another related point, how do you know kobe or wade or durant are great players? because you compare them to the players they play against. it is all relative. if the nba wanted ,they could find people more than willing to play for a much lower number than these players want. the overall talent level would be lower, but there would still be great players and stars relatively speaking. people still watch college basketball even though the talent is less. its about the sport and the competition. i would still watch and root for my team even if the nba had to take in lower skilled players to replace the current ones. everyone would still watch and root for their teams. so the players, as in ANY bargain or negotiation need to understand their worth and their bargaining position.
 6 years ago '04        #113
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 downtown33 said:
do some research and youll realize that some nba teams are not profitting
thats because they fu*king suck and are in sh*thole locations
doesnt have a damn thing to do with the issue at hand when there are other franchises who are caking
fool
 6 years ago '05        #114
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 ErnieB said:
thats because they fu*king suck and are in sh*thole locations
doesnt have a damn thing to do with the issue at hand when there are other franchises who are caking
fool
 Da Pitcher said:
then shutdown the nba, players make the league and that will never change, if the players cant get paid then no one should. Players will just play overseas for that $$$, WONT BE AS MUCH DOUGH as the nba but fu*k it, the nba will never be the same ever. they lose.
And under your logic, you are saying to go over seas and take less dough BUT not take a pay cut here lol... Come on Fam! Their pay cuts are STILL more than what they would make anywhere else. So for pride you're willing to lose out on money. That's bad business. In hindsight Joe Johnson makes as much as Tom Brady.... Thank about that.


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 6 years ago '07        #115
joshdogg26 193 heat pts193
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damn, mad people unwittingly outted themselves as complete idiots in this thread. sucks to be u .
 10-12-2011, 12:38 PM         #116
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 joshdogg26 said:
damn, mad people unwittingly outted themselves as complete idiots in this thread. sucks to be u .
as always i end up being correct in these types of matters. Not because im smart,

but because i use common sense,

while the majority of boxden just spouts out at the mouth, a.ssume sh*t or just d!ckride players they worship to death.


You call me a Ray Allen stan when your all over Wade's balls, and when you got your avatar of him how can you call me a stan.

Your a bi*ch joshdogg

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 6 years ago '07        #117
joshdogg26 193 heat pts193
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and now, u take ur L.

Nobody disputes that Stern and Silver talked to Fisher and Kessler in the hallway, bringing up what they thought would be music to Kessler's ears. His offer, of splitting basketball-related income down the middle ... maybe it was time to see if the two sides could sell that to their respective groups.

Stern was confident he could talk enough owners into it, and as for the players ... Kessler was their pit bull. And this was his idea!

Having floated their big idea, the offer so sweet it just might get them in trouble with their owners, the league officials were excited to know they at least had a victory in the bag. They'd have a long night of dealing with systems issues ahead of them, but maybe, just maybe, this long summer of meetings could be wrapped up. Maybe the season would be intact.

Denied

As Stern has recounted a dozen times since, not long after what was supposed to have been the hallway conversation that saved the season, something odd and wholly unexpected happened. There was a knock on the door where Stern was selling his owners on the idea. The players wanted to talk.

When they convened, instead of the union's head, Hunter, or its negotiating committee of Maurice Evans, Matt Bonner, Roger Mason, Theo Ratliff, Etan Thomas and Chris Paul, representing the players were Fisher, Kessler and three superstars who had been to very few of the meetings at all: Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Kobe Bryant.

A bad sign: Pierce was still wearing his backpack.

The players had two pieces of news that shocked the league: 50/50 was not good enough. And there was nothing further to discuss.


celtics tanked the season so their oldasses could rest
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