Week 4 Gameday Thread : New England Patriots Vs. Oakland Raiders

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Patriots 17 32.69%
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 7 years ago '08        #121
Dunknown24 34 heat pts34
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Not tryna take my man's slot buuut I didn't see him post this
One of the biggest games of the weekend will happen in Oakland, when the Patriots meet the Raiders. And one of the biggest names added to the Pats in 2011 won’t be there.

Ian Rapoport of the Boston Herald reports that defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth isn’t making the trip to the Bay Area.

Haynesworth was listed as questionable with a back injury. He practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, but he did not practice on Thursday or Friday.

The former Titan and Redskin missed last week’s game against the Bills, due to the same condition. He has appeared in two games this season, with two tackles and no sacks.

The Patriots brought back veteran defensive lineman Gerard Warren this week.
Maybe that's their X-factor
 7 years ago '07        #122
Jayceon 498 heat pts498
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^Matt Millen decking Pats GM Patrick Sullivan on the sidelines following a 1985 playoff victory for the Pats in Los Angeles


Raiders, Pats Rekindle Rivalry


OAKLAND -- For the New England Patriots, seeing the Oakland Raiders is a bit like seeing an old flame. Charter members of the American Football League, the two teams routinely played twice per season before the merger. Ever since, they've maintained a shaky long-distance relationship thanks to Jack Tatum's hitting, Ray Hamilton's roughing and Tom Brady's tucking.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick had his own late-'90s flirtations with the silver and black, while, more recently, the teams created some sparks with high-profile trades that sent Randy Moss and Richard Seymour to opposite coasts.

Now, despite playing only five times since 1989, the two teams rekindle that rivalry Sunday at O.co Stadium in a battle of 2-1 squads. New England boasts a slim 16-15-1 lifetime advantage in the series, but is just 2-6 in Oakland.

One of those wins was a 49-26 thrashing here during the 2008 season.

But after enduring some struggles in recent years, the Raiders look like a team heading in the right direction again and have not shied from the idea that this is a chance to prove they are once again among the AFC's elite.

"The Raiders have been great, just like the Patriots have done it," Oakland's first-year coach Hue Jackson said, noting the Patriots' success the past decade. "The Raiders, at times, were that team, too -- year in and year out, in the playoffs, challenging for the Super Bowl. It's all about making our players understand the rich tradition and history that has been here. It's time to get that back. It's time to work back into that mode. That's what this is truly all about -- it's about winning."

After throwing away a three-touchdown lead in Buffalo last weekend, winning is of chief importance to the Patriots as well. But it won't be easy. New England's defense has offered little resistance through the first three weeks of the season and injuries could exacerbate matters on Sunday.

Four defensive backs are listed as questionable, including three of the team's top four cornerbacks in Ras-I Dowling (hip), Leigh Bodden (groin) and Kyle Arrington (chest). Safety Patrick Chung (hand) missed last week's game in Buffalo and was limited in practice all this week.

That's not encouraging news for a team that's given up a league-worst 377 yards per game through the air. What's more, the defensive line is dinged up as well -- Myron Pryor went on injured reserve last week, while Mike Wright (out) is still working his way back from another concussion and Albert Haynesworth (questionable) has a balky back.

That's reason for concern going up against prolific running back Darren McFadden and the league's top rushing offense.

Amidst those challenges, the Patriots' defense is trying to a.ssert that it's not as bad as the numbers suggest.

"You feel it in the locker room, just that sense of urgency to get better now," said captain Jerod Mayo. "I wouldn't say pressure -- it's just, now is the time. We have to take it one game at a time and it starts this week."

Added defensive end Andre Carter: "There's always a sense of urgency, but the most important thing is being consistent. Unfortunately, we haven't been... We show signs of, 'This is our identity,' but then there will be a series or a play where it's, 'OK, we took a step back.' Every week we have to play at a consistent level."

Offensively, the Patriots have put together 11 consecutive regular-season games in which they've scored 30 points or more -- creeping up on the NFL record set by the Greatest Show on Turf (and another former LA resident) St. Louis Rams . And while Brady has been superhuman in passing for 1,327 yards and 11 touchdowns over the first three weeks of the season, he proved mortal in throwing four interceptions last week in Buffalo -- matching his season total of a year ago -- and the Patriots couldn't overcome it.

With a new close-cropped haircut, Brady put the Bills game behind him quickly.

"It's really a fresh week for us," said Brady. "Like I said, there's nothing that we can do about what's happened. We are trying to bring a fresh new plan, new energy, [and] we're trying to put it together against a damn good football team. We're going to learn more about our team going on the road and playing a tough opponent then anything more than that. We're trying to go out there and get a win."

Unsurprisingly, the main story line this week reverts back to that relationship between the Patriots and Raiders. Sunday's game will mark the first time Seymour has played against his old team since being unceremoniously dealt away before the start of the 2009 season.

He's unsuccessfully tried to downplay the moment. But, if nothing else, he's not getting nostalgic about renewing acquaintances with teammates he won three Super Bowls with in New England.

"That was three years ago," said Seymour. "All my attention is focused on getting my team out here a lot better. Like I said, that chapter is closed and over and done with. You kind of reflect when your career is over. I definitely understand I'm on the back nine right now, but I'm looking to finish strong."

Maybe Seymour will help pen the long-awaited next chapter in this long-distance rivalry.
 7 years ago '04        #123
cali22buck 1 heat pts
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Bart Scott voice "Can't Wait!!!"
 7 years ago '05        #124
Garnet & Gold 42 heat pts42
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Since Nick Miller is no longer a Raider, this game is a fu*king cakewalk, they're gonna play inspired as fu*k
 7 years ago '09        #125
TriniSoldier 69 heat pts69
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Raider fans getting a little too excited to catch that L
 7 years ago '09        #126
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 *eckounltd1972* said:
Since Nick Miller is no longer a Raider, this game is a fu*king cakewalk, they're gonna play inspired as fu*k

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 7 years ago '10        #127
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 I'm The Dan said:
The only thing I am worried about is if the Pats use Chad Johnson like we used DHB last week against the Jets. We waste our best corner on Ocho while Welker goes off.

i dont know if your serious or not but wes walker by far is there best receiver. Ochocinco isn't getting it yet and in that system, probably is there 3rd/4rth best receiver. Ochocinco isnt gna be a problem. Wes welker needs to be guarded by Routt or chekwa w out a doubt. He cant get any LB coverage.

i can see welker getting hurt though if he meets McClain or Mitchell.
 7 years ago '07        #128
theFREAK 3938 heat pts3938 OP
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 jslim said:
For those that don't know, Mike Waufle was the Giants D-line coach in the Superbowl 42 upset. He is currently the D-line coach in Oakland.
Means nothing.
 7 years ago '10        #129
Trill Livin 69 heat pts69
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nick miller is gone??? THANK GOD
 7 years ago '07        #130
Jayceon 498 heat pts498
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 theFREAK said:
Means nothing.
5 sacks and it means nothing

Because D line coordinators have nothing to do with d line play.
 7 years ago '07        #131
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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 jslim said:
Only 5 games thus week featuring teams with winning records

Pats 25-2 following losses
that stat is just insane

 Dunknown24 said:
Not tryna take my man's slot buuut I didn't see him post this

Maybe that's their X-factor
@ Al...I love Warren though. Glad to see him back
 7 years ago '07        #132
Jayceon 498 heat pts498
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Did that avy bet ever go down. I'm in.
 7 years ago '05        #133
I'm The Dan 7 heat pts
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Nah, most of the Pats fans were scared.
 7 years ago '06        #134
Stackz 7 heat pts
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Most patriot fans arent Football fans mostly bandwagon.
 7 years ago '11        #135
Loso Luciano24 227 heat pts227
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Can the raiders "Maintain" the passing game of Brady?

Can they bring in the pressure to make him uncomfortbale in the pocket?

Can the patriots stop the run game?

Patrick Chung (A duck BTW ) is set to return. That should help that embarrassing thing they call the "Secondary".

















37-34 Raiiiiiiiiiiiiders with a late kick by Sebas!
 7 years ago '05        #136
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 yaboyantonio said:
nick miller is gone??? THANK GOD
YO! Im hype off this...that n*gga was certified basura




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 7 years ago '05        #137
I'm The Dan 7 heat pts
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 lostkauze said:
Over/under 400 yards and 3 tds against our pathetic secondary tomorrow?
Also im gonna go ahead and get this out of the way now.



FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKK YOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU STANFORD ROUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know if you're a Raiders fan or not. I am thinking you are because you have a hot girl in your avatar and we all know Boston fans only care about Brady and his hair cut.

So... why are you hating on Routt? He's been the only one in the secondary worth a sh*t in the first few games. Routt is easily a top five corner in this league right now.
 7 years ago '07        #138
theFREAK 3938 heat pts3938 OP
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 7 years ago '10        #139
SoulOnIce 67 heat pts67
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Gamtime is almost here fu*kers!!

 7 years ago '09        #140
TriniSoldier 69 heat pts69
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4 more hours, and then we will commence the sweep of california, all we need is the 49ers after these clown a.ss n*ggas
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