Mayweather KO's Ortiz - dirty or savvy vet move? (video)

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B!tch Move 263 42.69%
Savvy Vet Move 353 57.31%
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 6 years ago '04        #321
akalimelazer 8 heat pts
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 PradalSerey said:
Ref JUST seperated them, did NOT wave that the f!ght was started again and wasnt looking AT all....nobody sees what im seeing?



37. CONCUSSIVE HEAD IMPACT FOULS

The Referee must consult with the Ringside Physician in all cases involving concussive head impact fouls. The Referee in conjunction with the Ringside Physician will determine the length of time needed to evaluate the affected boxer and his or her suitability to continue.

HEADBUTT MECHANICS (WITH POSSIBLE INJURY)

1. Secure a safe distance and a.ssume a centered position to the boxers.
2. Command “Time!”
3. a.ssure that the boxers are completely apart.
4. Command out “Accidental Headbutt!” or “Intentional Headbutt!” and give an appropriate hand signal.
5. Examine both boxers quickly and take appropriate action to include notifying the Commission Table/Supervisor. If the fouled boxer needs medical attention, summon the Ringside Physician while
ushering the other boxer to the furthest neutral corner.6. Caution both boxers for headbutting and or take appropriate action.
7. Call time back in.
8. Have boxing resume immediately.

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This entire "f!ght" was staged. Boxing has been fixed for years, Especially in Vegas. Ortiz was smiling big time at the end goin home tonight paid with poker chips and legal hookers
 6 years ago '06        #322
nayfromdachi 2 heat pts
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like Mark Jackson says... "HANDS DOWN...MAN DOWN"...LOL !!!
 6 years ago '10        #323
HeyCobra 7 heat pts
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its this simple, the head butt was dirty and illegal, the ko punches were dirty but legal, you dont drop your hands ever, this isnt the first time a boxer has put his hands down and gotten hit for sh*t like this, mayweather schooled him like a vet.

Dirty head butt, was the punches dirty, maybe, but they were legal, and come on son, dont try to hug when theres millions on the line, ortiz learned a lesson, and lets not act like it wasnt 3-0 on rounds and about to be 4-0.

i hate when ever some one throws in bunches the crowed gets hype when 90% arnt landing, floyds hands where up and blocking, not like those where landing for the cards.
 6 years ago '08        #324
Arson 84 heat pts84
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 PradalSerey said:
Ref JUST seperated them, did NOT wave that the f!ght was started again and wasnt looking AT all....nobody sees what im seeing?



37. CONCUSSIVE HEAD IMPACT FOULS

The Referee must consult with the Ringside Physician in all cases involving concussive head impact fouls. The Referee in conjunction with the Ringside Physician will determine the length of time needed to evaluate the affected boxer and his or her suitability to continue.

HEADBUTT MECHANICS (WITH POSSIBLE INJURY)

1. Secure a safe distance and a.ssume a centered position to the boxers.
2. Command “Time!”
3. a.ssure that the boxers are completely apart.
4. Command out “Accidental Headbutt!” or “Intentional Headbutt!” and give an appropriate hand signal.
5. Examine both boxers quickly and take appropriate action to include notifying the Commission Table/Supervisor. If the fouled boxer needs medical attention, summon the Ringside Physician while
ushering the other boxer to the furthest neutral corner.6. Caution both boxers for headbutting and or take appropriate action.
7. Call time back in.
8. Have boxing resume immediately.

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If the fouled boxer needs medical attention, summon the Ringside Physician while ushering the other boxer to the furthest neutral corner.
he did the hand signal. May got hit on the chin, they didn't need to go to the neutral corner
 6 years ago '04        #325
VictoryThagr8 6 heat pts
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 Bobby's World said:
You never been in a f!ght in your life. A muhfu*ka just threw his big a.ss head at you three times in attempt to disrespect you, take food out your children mouth, and put a blemish on your undefeated record. And you would be kumbahyah with that huh?

So if that headbutt would've cut Floyd and Ortiz worked for the next 4 rounds to open that cut up even more, and they stop the f!ght because of that sh*t, it would be all gravy huh?

n*ggaz is fu*kin stupid. Larry Merchant is fu*kin stupid and just glad it aint him in that ring.
Pacman couldnt knock out old a.ss Sugar Shane. So what the fu*k is he gonna do with Floyd who's ten times better than Shane. Ya'll n*ggaz is fu*king stupid.
Floyd couldn't knock down Shane at all and almost got knocked the fu*k out if stand didnt gas out. Pacquaio knocked Shane down and had Shane f!ghting scared from his back foot while against Floyd Shane was coming forward all f!ght. And the funny thing is that pacquaio whope shane a.ss the same day as his car accident which obviously fu*ked his leg up. Really triangle theory doesn't work in boxing.


Last edited by VictoryThagr8; 09-18-2011 at 01:59 AM..
 6 years ago '10        #326
HeyCobra 7 heat pts
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 akalimelazer said:


This entire "f!ght" was staged. Boxing has been fixed for years, Especially in Vegas. Ortiz was smiling big time at the end goin home tonight paid with poker chips and legal hookers

he was smilin cause he knows he got, got. he knew he fu*ked up and got caught, ortiz just dont got it, floyd does, once a quiter always a quiter. kid has no k!ller instict, he rather apologize, or let a dude hang around in later rounds then knocking someone out cause he likes or has respect for them, hes too nice. and thats why the best boxers are c*cky as*holes.
 6 years ago '04        #327
infam0uskills 15 heat pts15
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who has the video of mayweather in 24/7 singing about the haters that buy the ppv to watch him lose and you cant get your refund back?
 6 years ago '10        #328
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 6 years ago '10        #329
HeyCobra 7 heat pts
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 VictoryThagr8 said:
Floyd couldn't knock down Shane at all and almost got knocked the fu*k out if stand didnt gas out. Pacquaio knocked Shane down and had Shane f!ghting front his back foot while against Floyd Shane was coming forward all f!ght. And the funny thing is that npacquaio whopp Shane a.ss the same day as his car accident which obviously fu*ked his leg up. Really triangle theory doesn't work in boxing.
shane landed one good punch early in the f!ght and thats it, then mayweather out boxed him, what f!ght did you watch, one good power shot isnt sh*t in a f!ght, yeah floyd got stunned, but he adjusted and that was it, shane didnt do anythign after that but get picked apart. come on

i know we all hate mayweather but hes one of the best at changing mid f!ght to take everythign away from a f!ghter
 6 years ago '05        #330
Vancouver 11 heat pts11
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 I'm The Dan said:
Wrong. All Floyd had to do was wave off the hug and say no. He accepted the hug and before Ortiz got out of range he threw a hook. Ask any real f!ghter and that's a no-no.

As I said, all he had to to do was wave off the hug and there's no problem. He waited for Ortiz to hug him then hit him.

The FACT that people on here aren't getting isn't whether the punch was legal or not; that doesn't matter AT ALL. The fact is Mayweather took a cheap shot. Mayweather knew Ortiz' intention when he came in to hug. You can say all you want that, "It's time to f!ght, youngin!" or whatever forum prep rally speech you're trying to give, but it's a cheap shot no matter how you look at it.

It's not the same sport, but it's no different than the Cerone and Paul Kelly f!ght. Kelly and Cerone came out and touched gloves and immediately afterwards, Paul Kelly hit Cerone. The crowd boo'd and everyone knew that Kelly was in the wrong. The true etiquette is to touch gloves and back up out of range of each other then proceed to f!ght.

Mayweather should have either: A) Waved off the hug and told Ortiz to go fu*k himself, or B) accepted the hug (like he did) and waited for Ortiz to back out of range, then start f!ghting.

Mayweather is a scrub that is looking for any way to win. The great f!ghters of the past wouldn't have done that against a mid-tier f!ghter. Mayweather can't count on those tricks to beat good f!ghters, hence the reason he is ducking Manny.
What f!ght were you watching? All the stuff at the end aside, Mayweather was winning that f!ght handily and would have continued to do so.
 6 years ago '05        #331
Bobby's World 9 heat pts
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 Arson said:
he did the hand signal. May got hit on the chin, they didn't need to go to the neutral corner
Uh doesnt the boxer have the option to wave that if the damage aint visible. The ref asked them both "Are you ready"? They said yeah and touched gloves.
 09-18-2011, 02:04 AM         #332
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It wasn't dirty in my book, because dirty is illegal or close to it. This wasn't close to illegal.

This was a savvy, veteran move and was also on the cheap side.

However, Ortiz almost left Mayweather no choice but to be hit him with those sucker punches. How many fu*kin times was he gonna apologize? At what point would he allow the f!ght to start again?

He LITERALLY: headbutted him, hugged and kissed him to apologize, got deducted a point while fist bumping Mayweather to apologize again, ref said let's go, he walks up and touches gloves again, AND wanted to give him a fu*kin hug!

I lost a bit of respect for Mayweather tonight, but still, Ortiz and the ref are 100% at fault for what happened.
 6 years ago '09        #333
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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 Arson said:
he did the hand signal. May got hit on the chin, they didn't need to go to the neutral corner
It doesnt matter the damage, there was a clear headbutt and point deduction. Their is protocol and Joe Cortez didn't follow it which allowed this ending to the f!ght. If we're going to say based on the technical aspects Floyd was right to lace Ortiz then we have to say the same in the situation of a head butt and the proper protocol or technicalities that should have been followed.
 09-18-2011, 02:05 AM         #334
2D.... 
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bi*ch move, if you think otherwise, you have personal bias

boxing isn't like a street f!ght, no one is paying money to watch a street f!ght
its a test of skill, and mayweather took a shot when he knew the situation wasn't clear
ortiz had no intention of f!ghting at that time, and the ref was right there
since when does the f!ght start when the ref doesn't even move away?

pretty clear that mayweather wasn't sure he could beat ortiz straight up...
 6 years ago '05        #335
zogby 42 heat pts42
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ortiz head buts
ref stops
ortiz kisses mayweather - psyched out in weigh in
ref said start
turns to let time keeper know
ortiz goes to hug mayweather
maywather knocks ortiz hands down , ortiz looks like a fool
punch one
ortiz still dont put hands up
punch 2
ortiz dont get up
 6 years ago '04        #336
KidKingGoD 3 heat pts
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Cobra don't tell them dawg they don't know sh*t about boxing.
 6 years ago '04        #337
peedicrakk2nd 
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The thing that is bothering me is the fact that some of you are saying he shouldn't have won like that. Also saying he is not a man of respect and honor. But in the same sentence agreeing that it was completely legal. That's an oxymoron to the fullest. Ortiz kept apologizing and got caught with his guard down. Floyd was like "I'm here to box now shut up and eat these gloves." Ortiz is to blame because he didn't follow boxing number one rule which is to protect yourself at all times. What makes it even funnier is that if Pac would have done the same thing, most people would be screaming he is the best. If I'm in the ring and time is in and I catch a dude with his guard down, I would two piece his a.ss too. Most of you would do the same exact thing.
 09-18-2011, 02:09 AM         #338
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 I'm The Dan said:
Mayweather is a scrub that is looking for any way to win. The great f!ghters of the past wouldn't have done that against a mid-tier f!ghter. Mayweather can't count on those tricks to beat good f!ghters, hence the reason he is ducking Manny.
This is the entire inspiration for your post and really discredits your entire argument. Im not speaking on behalf of Floyd, im speaking on behalf of boxing. I actually boxed before, if I did any of the things Ortiz did tonight my trainer would've been giving me applications to Home Depot.

You really didnt care about this f!ght though, you just wanna criticize his actions regarding Pacquaio, so you arent worthy of a reply.

But once again, it was 100% legal, You never drop your hands, their is never a moment in boxing where youre trained to hug and say sorry for a cheap shot. Show me a trainer whose teaching his boxer that.


But once again you arent worth a reply, you just want to talk sh*t about Floyd...When you wanna talk about the actual sport of boxing, we can talk.
 6 years ago '09        #339
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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 PradalSerey said:
Ref JUST seperated them, did NOT wave that the f!ght was started again and wasnt looking AT all....nobody sees what im seeing?



37. CONCUSSIVE HEAD IMPACT FOULS

The Referee must consult with the Ringside Physician in all cases involving concussive head impact fouls. The Referee in conjunction with the Ringside Physician will determine the length of time needed to evaluate the affected boxer and his or her suitability to continue.

HEADBUTT MECHANICS (WITH POSSIBLE INJURY)

1. Secure a safe distance and a.ssume a centered position to the boxers.
2. Command “Time!”
3. a.ssure that the boxers are completely apart.
4. Command out “Accidental Headbutt!” or “Intentional Headbutt!” and give an appropriate hand signal.
5. Examine both boxers quickly and take appropriate action to include notifying the Commission Table/Supervisor. If the fouled boxer needs medical attention, summon the Ringside Physician while ushering the other boxer to the furthest neutral corner.
6. Caution both boxers for headbutting and or take appropriate action.
7. Call time back in.
8. Have boxing resume immediately.

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Ref said "dont be doin that, dont be doin that, lets go" he didnt face the boxers, he didnt say "TIME IN"

I can see how mayweather could have taken that as time in, but if you watch, mayweather knew ortiz wasnt ready, he knew the ref wasnt looking. point being, mayweather has NO respect, no dignity...dudes not a boxer, he's a street thug. constantly being investigated for domestic violence, threatening other boxers and sh*t, sending goons at people...look at his ignorant sh*t....

NVM, mayweather fans stay ignorant like mayweather...dudes no fu*kin role model
Yeah Cortez fu*ked this whole f!ght up by having no control. You are right on the rules you posted and he didnt do any of that sh*t which leads me to believe the fix was in.

Where you are wrong is he did say f!ght or something along those lines to the f!ghters to tell them restart but immediately looked to ringside and asked them were they ready. Instead of continuing to keep the f!ghters separated long enough to make sure they were ready at ringside he left them vulnerable to each other as he screwed up. If Ortiz had suffered some damage he would have clear grounds for a lawsuit.
 6 years ago '08        #340
Arson 84 heat pts84
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
It doesnt matter the damage, there was a clear headbutt and point deduction. Their is protocol and Joe Cortez didn't follow it which allowed this ending to the f!ght. If we're going to say based on the technical aspects Floyd was right to lace Ortiz then we have to say the same in the situation of a head butt and the proper protocol or technicalities that should have been followed.
There's a if in that sentence. If there's no need for medical attention(no visible damage), you jump down to #6.

Caution both boxers for headbutting and or take appropriate action. Cortez did that.
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