Jadakiss And Kendrick Lamar Debate Jay-Z and Nas' Infamous Battle: 'Takeover' Vs. 'Ether'

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 09-09-2011, 09:25 PM         #41
marquezdakid 
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Takeover>ether bodied Nas in one verse. Nas responded three months later wit Ether and it was jus him calling jay gay and ugly, paws Jigga man hurt Nas
 6 years ago '04        #42
Veno da Don 23 heat pts23
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 Dy-nasty said:
I always felt like that whole beef happened at the time where the internet/ message boards took off. Most people on any hip hop message board HATE Jay-Z. Wrong time for Jay

I like Takeover better than Ether and Blueprint 2 >> both.

Jay's reaction to Ether on the radio is what sealed it though. He just reacted too ... unlike himself.

To this day I can't believe Nas got a pass for trying to act like Jay-Z was getting down on the same sh*t R. Kelly was w/ the underage girls. That was a hoe a.ss move from Nas.
 09-09-2011, 09:38 PM         #43
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takeover was all facts? do yall actually know the difference between a fact and an opinion?

went from nasty nas to esco's trash, now you just garbage, your bodyguard verse better than yours, you had the worst flow on the whole song, you made it a hot line i made it a hot song (world is yours > dead presidents), one hot album every 10 years, etc.

those are ALL opinions.

and saying he paid serchlite publishing was a lie. mc serch confirmed that.
 6 years ago '10        #44
trex 16 heat pts16
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Kendrick's right but Ether had the bigger impact over time.

The fact "ether" has entered hip-hop lexicon says a lot about the outcome.
 6 years ago '04        #45
Veno da Don 23 heat pts23
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 elferoz said:
takeover was all facts? do yall actually know the difference between a fact and an opinion?

went from nasty nas to esco's trash, now you just garbage, your bodyguard verse better than yours, you had the worst flow on the whole song, you made it a hot line i made it a hot song (world is yours > dead presidents), one hot album every 10 years, etc.

those are ALL opinions.

and saying he paid serchlite publishing was a lie. mc serch confirmed that.
No they do not know the difference between a fact and an opinion.

At least make your opinion hit the soul...

When these streets keep calling, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and c*ckafella Records wanted beef
Started c*cking up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
d!ck sucking lips, why not you let the late, great veteran live....

Y'all n*ggas deal with emotions like bi*ches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pus*y, a Stan
I still whip your a.ss, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the sh*t you need to learn though
That ether, that sh*t that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you getting girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache having, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You a.ss, went from Jaz to hanging with Caine, to Herb, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own sh*t
You a d!ck-riding f*ggot, you love the attention
Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shawn Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz d!ck
So little shorty's getting gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop sh*t, apologize, n*gga, just ask Kiss

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 09-09-2011, 09:51 PM         #46
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I don't understand, why should Jay win because he's spitting facts? Jay should have known the general public does not care about fact. His loss.
 6 years ago '09        #47
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 sirjaybee said:
Like Canibus said in 2round KO "It's not about who strike the hardest, it's about who strike first" Jay all day
You got it backwards. He said it's about who strikes the hardest, NOT who strikes first. That's why he finished that line by sayin' "That's why I laugh when I hear that wack a.ss verse..."


But I don't understand how Kendrick could say that when even the ppl that was around Nas was doubting that he'd be able to come back as strong as he did with Ether. Mad ppl was doubtin' Nas thinking that Jay already won. That's why there was such a shock with Ether, because of how hard hitting it was.
 09-09-2011, 09:54 PM         #48
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 OOps said:
Either was way better........but both these clowns need to take tips from pac's hit em' up. Thats a fu*king diss record.

I kinda like camrons you got to love it over either.
Exactly, and you don't have to structure the lines in a clever way, a battle can become classic simply by exposing your opponent for the bi*ch he is, and it's up to you to decided how to do it. You can take the comedy route like Camron always take, which makes Cam a tough opponent.
 09-09-2011, 09:56 PM         #49
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kendrick is wrong, ether is ether becuz it was pure ether
 6 years ago '10        #50
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10 years later and n*ggas is still arguing this. amazing.

takeover was filthy but when nas dropped the ether, he shook the world with that sh*t.
 6 years ago '05        #51
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 elferoz said:
takeover was all facts? do yall actually know the difference between a fact and an opinion?

went from nasty nas to esco's trash, now you just garbage, your bodyguard verse better than yours, you had the worst flow on the whole song, you made it a hot line i made it a hot song (world is yours > dead presidents), one hot album every 10 years, etc.

those are ALL opinions.

and saying he paid serchlite publishing was a lie. mc serch confirmed that.
Nas Da Gawd won. You don't hear anyone say "man, you got Takeover'd." The legacy of this beef will always remain in Nas' hands.


Last edited by Left Hook; 09-09-2011 at 10:02 PM..
 6 years ago '05        #52
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 spittapilottalk said:
i bet if you turned on ether now for jay he'd go
then he'd be like knowing he wakes up to beyonce, hundreds of millions of dollars and not paying child support to kelis.

i agree with kendrick.
 6 years ago '05        #53
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 l0udm0uf said:
ya we also say NAS LOST you dumb son of a bi*ch
The meme is a joke for comedic purposes. It doesn't specifically refer to the beef where "Nas lost."

Because he didn't.
 6 years ago '04        #54
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 Left Hook said:
Nas Da Gawd won. You don't hear anyone say "man, you got Takeover'd." The legacy of this beef will always remain in Nas' hands.
Thats actually a good point. Even the title of the song was more powerful, meaningful, dope and classic. Jay lost
 09-09-2011, 10:24 PM         #55
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 Left Hook said:
Nas Da Gawd won. You don't hear anyone say "man, you got Takeover'd." The legacy of this beef will always remain in Nas' hands.
ok but
lets not count the list of catch phases that jay-z started and
usually i would go back and forth with you on this type of stannery but I've turned over a new leaf since my other username got banned

R.i.P. D.S.O.M.
 09-09-2011, 10:29 PM         #56
SeaJaiye 
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"you got takeover'd"

nas won
 6 years ago '05        #57
Left Hook 28 heat pts28
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 RapCity said:
ok but
lets not count the list of catch phases that jay-z started and
usually i would go back and forth with you on this type of stannery but I've turned over a new leaf since my other username got banned

R.i.P. D.S.O.M.
You're D.S.O.M.?

We're strictly talking about this beef though, not the legacy of both rappers. In this beef, Nas' legacy with Ether has been the prevailing legacy.
 6 years ago '08        #58
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i dont know wut song yall n*ggas heard but jay murdered this n*gga. nas sh*t was cool but jay hit that n*gga with facts.

real rap > metaphors and jokes
 6 years ago '06        #59
hooligun 12 heat pts12
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five to one>>> soprano's theme>>ether>>> takeover



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 6 years ago '10        #60
uddart 1 heat pts
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 JayDawn said:
Nah Kendrick n*ggas rode with Nas because Nas ethered Jay

From then on when someone gets destroyed in anything we now call it ether. No coincidence
Makes sense
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