J.Cole - Cole World:Sideline Story already #3 BEST SELLING hip hop album

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 6 years ago '05        #61
Left Hook 28 heat pts28
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 Wasted said:
Am I the only one that hate "The Sideline Story?" Should be just Cole World.
Nah, I got used to it. I can see him using the Cole World name again for the next album
 6 years ago '05        #62
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Contrary to popular belief, J.Cole has a buzz.

My sister, one of the most mainstream people I've ever known loves J.Cole. Last time J.Cole came here he sold out.
 6 years ago '05        #63
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 Hiphopknowledge said:
I Like J.cole But Let's Be Real Big Sean and Wiz Had A Bigger Buzz Then him right now He Is Getting No Radio Play And That Hurts Because Not Everybody Checks For new Rappers Over The Internet He Has Some Loyal Fans But So Does Alot Of Artist And They Still Don't Sell Let's Hope White People Like Him
You're underestimating the power of the internet.
 6 years ago '06        #64
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 J Rob said:
Wiz and Sean have a lot of bandwagoners in their fanbase though. Once the next hot artist comes on the scene, they'll jump ship.

Cole is doing this with no major hits.....even Who Dat did better than Work Out.

I'm expecting him to do about 80-90K, which is crazy for a new artist who's never had a true hit single.
Maybe in America but Workout has been #1 here (New Zealand) on our main Hiphop radio station (Mai FM) for the whole week
 6 years ago '05        #65
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 Hussle said:
Maybe in America but Workout has been #1 here (New Zealand) on our main Hiphop radio station (Mai FM) for the whole week
NZ > Australia. Australia doesn't even play Drake songs; the radio stations here only play Em. Weak
 6 years ago '10        #66
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Anyone kno how many new tracks are going to be on the album I kno he added some from his mix tape
 08-31-2011, 07:29 AM         #67
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Waiting for this to LEAK!!!
 6 years ago '11        #68
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That's informed hip hop fans on message boards..you underestimate the power of hip hop blogs like hotnewhiphop for the casual hip hop fan..I've seen regular dudes/girls who listen to nothing but the most mainstream sh*t post a Los or Slaughterhouse song.
 6 years ago '05        #69
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 Hiphopknowledge said:
The hole internet is saying the carter 4 sucks and Its still selling Because Alot Of People Still only listen to the radio And Tv That's Why Drake Nicki Lil Wayne Sell Because There All Over The Radio
Radio doesn't mean sh*t. B.o.B was all over the radio but he didn't sell well.
 6 years ago '10        #70
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 Hiphopknowledge said:
Lupe had to Sell his soul Just to sell 100k every successful Rapper has made commercial singles to sale And it's not helping That Jay z not promoting him like he did kanye


I Give Him 40-75k depending on How That trey Songz Single Do When He Release It
Lupe sold 200k records his first week. Without a radio single at the time. With essentially the same formula as J.Cole touring,touring and more touring. Cole has toured non stop for 2 years, and as a result he is #3 on Amazon and this is just preorders, which is a strong indicator. Don't be suprised if Cole breaks or get very close to 100k, but a true fanbase is something very few artist have. How do you think Jay has 450k people buy his record every time he release one? The Radio is viritually useless.


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 6 years ago '11        #71
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word of mouth + blogs + youtube is just as big as radio/tv.

those music television networks like MTV don't even play music too often on their main stations.
 6 years ago '08        #72
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 Hiphopknowledge said:
The hole internet is saying the carter 4 sucks and Its still selling Because Alot Of People Still only listen to the radio And Tv That's Why Drake Nicki Lil Wayne Sell Because There All Over The Radio
don't let the vocal minority fool you dude. boxden, sohh, and the people on twitter talking about how wack it is 9 times out of 10 downloaded the album.
 6 years ago '09        #73
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Considering the fact that Who Dat is his highest viewed video onyoutube @ 10million he won't be selling that much compared to say Drake who was @ like 50+ million with best i ever had, and like 20+ million with over/find your love
 6 years ago '05        #74
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So many people want J. Cole to lose, but he's not going to lose no matter what he sells. He is his own man; dude pretty much built his own buzz without any hot commercial singles, features or gimmicks. He has gotten here based on pure talent alone. That's something to commend.
 6 years ago '04        #75
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been saying he built up at the right thime... cole s*itting on u hatters... he cant get a feature from jay, he aint got a relase date, blah blah blah
 6 years ago '11        #76
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Lmao..why are you comparing J Cole to Drake? his music is no where near as commercial sounding as Drakes..J Cole isn't going to sell 400k his first week like Drake, the goal as fans is for him to sell enough where he's not forced to put out some Lasers type bullsh*t in the future. 100k - 150k his first week would be great.

I expect J Cole to sell more than Drake but Big Seans hipster image is more appealing to people than his actual music..J Cole doesn't have an image like that besides being a regular good dude who makes good music..that's his entire image..his music is marketable but not J Cole himself.
 6 years ago '09        #77
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Question how come some people have Caps On All The First Letter Of All the Words They Write

is it a phone thing? It's really fu*ked up to read



Also I like J. Cole, but he's his own worst enemy



Who wouldn't make a proper video to In The Morning, and barely anything ever to promote himself
 6 years ago '05        #78
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 spittapilottalk said:
Lmao..why are you comparing J Cole to Drake? his music is no where near as commercial sounding as Drakes..J Cole isn't going to sell 400k his first week like Drake, the goal as fans is for him to sell enough where he's not forced to put out some Lasers type bullsh*t in the future. 100k - 150k his first week would be great.

I expect J Cole to sell more than Drake but Big Seans hipster image is more appealing to people than his actual music..J Cole doesn't have an image like that besides being a regular good dude who makes good music..that's his entire image..his music is marketable but not J Cole himself.
I know, right. People are pathetic.


 Hiphopknowledge said:
Nooooo I want j.cole to sell So more real Artist Can Come Out And Feel Good Im just saying Thats How The Game Work Until People Stand Up And Demand Real music



Think About It How Many Classic Albums Have Went Platinum?

Nah, I'm not saying you want him to lose, I was referring to the haters who constantly said Cole wasn't coming out with an album, he'd never get a Jay feature, etc. Cole pretty much chin checked these idiots this month, like, he literally went through the Hater Checklist and ticked every box off. Even had that Rihanna s3xtape buzz going

I want his debut to be a great stepping stone for what's next in store for Cole; I hope it gives him more of a platform, a bigger fanbase and larger access to more talent so that he'll flourish. He deserves more than Big Sean, man. Dude's too talented to be limited to a small crowd.
 6 years ago '05        #79
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 rexplosive said:
Question how come some people have Caps On All The First Letter Of All the Words They Write

is it a phone thing? It's really fu*ked up to read



Also I like J. Cole, but he's his own worst enemy



Who wouldn't make a proper video to In The Morning, and barely anything ever to promote himself
Cole isn't a marketing genius, but I'll give you a few POSITIVES in his marketing approach:


1. He decided to do Any Given Sunday, instead of releasing a mixtape. Every damn week, this dude gets exposure on EVERY rap/music blog talking about AGS for that week. Imagine if he released 1 mixtape, he wouldn't get a steady flow of attention.

2. When he posted the tracklist on his Twitter, he could've just posted a link to his blog listing all the songs. He waited 6 HOURS to do everything. Song by song. You know every tweet he sent out was retweeted by more than 100+ people? Imagine if he sent out one link to the tracklist. He actually thought about it. Tweeting the tracks 1 by 1 = more tweets and retweets about him and his music.

3. He didn't want the critics to spill the beans. He gives surprises (Jay being on the album, Missy being on the album) so that people have something to talk about leading up to the album's release.


Trust me, Cole thinks about these things. Don't be surprised if he releases a song with Kendrick in the coming weeks. It's part of his strategy He knows his image is weak, so he's trying to find a workaround to compensate for that.
 6 years ago '11        #80
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exactly..J Cole will never have that image of a Wayne or a Jay-Z because he's not that type of dude, he's not arrogant..he's a regular humble dude. He doesn't have the image of something who's super arrogant like a Kanye and he's not goofy/corny appealing like a Drake.

He's a super intelligent dude though, he plans out his every move whether it's music, release dates, etc. That's whats going to give him a long lasting career if he never becomes a "mega superstar"
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