Should Heat Trade LeBron For Dwight?

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If You Were Pat Riley, Would You Make This Trade?
Yes 54 60.00%
No 36 40.00%
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 6 years ago '07        #1
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kyhoopsgoat 418 heat pts418
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Should Heat Trade LeBron For Dwight?
 

 

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LeBron-for-Howard absurd? It actually makes a lot of sense.

You are Pat Riley.

It's December 2011. The lockout has come and gone. The salary cap has been sliced, leaving the Miami Heat organization with even less wiggle room than it had before the owners and players decided to go to war. Spending power is nearly nonexistent.

It's free-agent season. The Heat need a center to anchor the paint for the future, but there just isn't anyone qualified for the job willing to take the necessary pay cut. Tyson Chandler? The biggest fish on the market won't be paid like a guppy. Nene? Dream on. Sam Dalembert? Not the answer.

Sitting in front of a desk along Biscayne Bay, you evaluate the other options. Going the trade route is a possibility. Problem is, no one's knocking on the door for Mike Miller or Udonis Haslem after their injury-riddled campaigns in 2010-11. The only organization that values Joel Anthony enough for a five-year contract is yours. You're not trading any of the Big Three for obvious reasons. So, the void at center for the Miami Heat hopelessly remains.

Then the phone rings.

Otis Smith, the general manager for the Orlando Magic, is on the other end.

Dwight Howard for LeBron James.

That's the proposal on the table.

Preposterous, the idea that someone would willingly trade the most talented and wildly productive player in the game. Oh, and he's entering his prime. Throw in the fact that he's under control for two seasons and paid about a third of his on-court value. You respond to Smith with a polite thanks-but-no-thanks and cordially end the phone call.

And then, the scenario starts playing out in your head.

This would be like filling the Grand Canyon with the Grand Teton. At center, Howard is the best defensive presence in the league. Erik Spoelstra is a defensive architect who, in 2009-10, managed to scrap together the third-best squad in defensive efficiency with a frontcourt of Michael Beasley and Jermaine O'Neal. Put Howard and Spoelstra together and it's hard to imagine the Heat not becoming the basketball version of the Steel Curtain.

Looking purely at the individuals, there's a considerable drop-off going from James to Howard on the offensive end of the floor. However, basketball is not like baseball, a sport in which you can add offensive pieces with little to no regard for how they'll fit together. Yankees GM Brian Cashman didn't have to worry about any potential negative effects of sticking Alex Rodriguez next to Mark Teixeira in the batting order; they're offensive juggernauts no matter whom they play with.

Basketball isn't that simple. Putting together a fluid and effective offense is a lot like fitting puzzle pieces together, except the shapes aren't as well-defined as cardboard cutouts. When the Heat combined the forces of Dwyane Wade and LeBron James, coexisting was initially an uncomfortable exercise. They fulfilled nearly identical roles on offense, and although their immense versatility prevented a completely redundant relationship, there is a substantial overlap of skill sets. As a result, James took a step back offensively (his turnover rate soared to heights unseen since he was 19 years old) and the Heat weren't the offensive machine the world expected.

For the Heat, swapping James for Howard would put Wade back as the primary option and, perhaps more importantly, allow the Heat to space the floor with a knockdown shooter. Having James or Wade stand in the corner wasn't a threatening formation, but deploying a sharpshooter such as James Jones as a decongestant? There's a reason the Heat's offense was at its best (113.3 points per 100 possessions, according to basketballvalue.com) when Jones took the floor.

Would the Heat lose some offensive punch with Howard instead of James? Perhaps, but be very careful about discounting the effect of better spacing. Chris Bosh could play in the high post and midrange, where he's most comfortable. Wade wouldn't have to worry about taking turns. (In November, Wade went as far as to say, "You don't want to take two shots in a row.") The Heat couldn't trot out two sharpshooters at the same time last season without taking something away defensively, but with Howard, that wouldn't be an issue.

For the Magic, the benefits are obvious. James is perhaps the greatest two-way player in the sport. Sure, he might not be the heavyweight anchor like Howard on defense, but he's a lockdown defender on the wing (just ask Derrick Rose and Paul Pierce) who can play virtually any position on the floor. After James dedicated himself to being a defensive force under coach Mike Brown, he has buoyed an elite defense ever since. That won't change in Orlando under coach Stan Van Gundy even though James isn't as dominant physically as Howard.

Let's look at the broader picture. Instead of watching their franchise cornerstone walk for nothing in the summer of 2012 (as many fully expect), the Magic could cash in on the greatest talent in the game and keep him through at least the 2012-13 season, after which he can become a free agent. The Orlando front office understands the catastrophic and equally plausible scenario of entering 2012-13 empty-handed. If it can avoid that organizational disaster and reel in a two-time MVP in the process, that's a home run for a franchise with a cloudy future.

If you're Riley, there are plenty of logical reasons not to entertain the idea of swapping James for Howard. In the first season of a long-term commitment, the Heat came within two wins of a title despite absorbing Mike Bibby's disastrous postseason. The team is not broken, so there's no pressing need to make a fix. Considering Wade's age and crash dummy playing style, dealing the Marquette product, instead of James, probably would be the safer choice, but the Heat front office might not have the stomach to deal the longtime face of its franchise to an intrastate rival.

In the end, here's the reality of the situation: With James, the Heat are title contenders; with Howard instead, they are still title contenders. On one hand, inserting Howard into the equation would produce a defensive powerhouse with a balanced scoring arsenal. On the other, keeping James would allow the Heat to build on a foundation that is already elite on both ends of the floor.

So, James or Howard? If you are Pat Riley, there is no wrong answer -- just the easier one.


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 NBA - Analyzing a potential LeBron James-for-Dwight Howard trade - ESPN

66 comments for "Should Heat Trade LeBron For Dwight?"

 6 years ago '07        #2
infamxus 12 heat pts12
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dumb trade
 6 years ago '11        #3
Joseph 13 heat pts13
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magic would be fools to do this trade
 6 years ago '08        #4
iPunish901 12 heat pts12
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i hate dumb off season threads

 6 years ago '10        #5
Blkboipurp 
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I doubt it would happen but like I said before if it did...

Dwight+Heat=Championship
 6 years ago '05        #6
Hold That 103 heat pts103
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Heat would be a real dynasty and even more fierce on defense, this would make the Heat better, and give Orlando a replacement for Dwight.
 6 years ago '10        #7
Trill Livin 65 heat pts65
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k!ll yourself....its fu*kin LEBRON, n*ggas like that come once in a life-time,,,
 6 years ago '06        #8
ThaShark316 86 heat pts86
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I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 6 years ago '09        #9
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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Yes..Yes..Hell Yes.

I doubt they would do it straight up as it leaves them in the same position as with Dwight. If anyone wants Dwight, they better take Arenas and or Hedo.
 6 years ago '07        #10
INFAMOUS 13 heat pts13
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Howard > LBJ

Orlando has no incentive to make this trade
 6 years ago '07        #11
INFAMOUS 13 heat pts13
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 smoothmotionz said:
your an idiot. if Lebron was on the magic and dwight was on the heat last season. The magic would of made the finals with ease.

Think about it man. Dwight is already on a team that should of at least been in the conference finals last year and they didn't which means dwight is just a stat filler, but his gameplay really doesnt affect whether his team loses or not. You put lebron on ANY team in the nba they instantly become contenders.

The heat would NEVER even make the finals if they had dwight instead of lebron.

People overrate dwights overrall impact on a team as whole. He is a monster at the center position but it never translates to anything. The only year he led his team to the finals was the year the magic got lucky and player the Celtics with KG. And even with that they still had to play 7 games to beat them.

Lebron is the best player in the league and honestly there isnt anybody in the league that even close to him. Crazy thing is it has been that way since he was 21


you right

Hedo Turkoglu, J-Rich and Jameer Nelson is a great supporting cast

 6 years ago '10        #12
Blkboipurp 
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 smoothmotionz said:
your an idiot. if Lebron was on the magic and dwight was on the heat last season. The magic would of made the finals with ease.

Think about it man. Dwight is already on a team that should of at least been in the conference finals last year and they didn't which means dwight is just a stat filler, but his gameplay really doesnt affect whether his team loses or not. You put lebron on ANY team in the nba they instantly become contenders.

The heat would NEVER even make the finals if they had dwight instead of lebron.

People overrate dwights overrall impact on a team as whole. He is a monster at the center position but it never translates to anything. The only year he led his team to the finals was the year the magic got lucky and player the Celtics with KG. And even with that they still had to play 7 games to beat them.

Lebron is the best player in the league and honestly there isnt anybody in the league that even close to him. Crazy thing is it has been that way since he was 21
Stopped reading

Then has the nerve to call me an idiot after a statement like that
 6 years ago '09        #13
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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A better trade is Wade+Bosh for Dwight+Arenas


ORL is still a title contender with Wade and Bosh along with the shooting around them.



MIA gets the two best players in the world on the same team..Uh oh.
 6 years ago '04        #14
chctynig2804 2 heat pts
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 smoothmotionz said:
your an idiot. if Lebron was on the magic and dwight was on the heat last season. The magic would of made the finals with ease.

Think about it man. Dwight is already on a team that should of at least been in the conference finals last year and they didn't which means dwight is just a stat filler, but his gameplay really doesnt affect whether his team loses or not. You put lebron on ANY team in the nba they instantly become contenders.

The heat would NEVER even make the finals if they had dwight instead of lebron.

People overrate dwights overrall impact on a team as whole. He is a monster at the center position but it never translates to anything. The only year he led his team to the finals was the year the magic got lucky and player the Celtics with KG. And even with that they still had to play 7 games to beat them.

Lebron is the best player in the league and honestly there isnt anybody in the league that even close to him. Crazy thing is it has been that way since he was 21
give dwight some players who are more than 3 pt chuckers who cant create their own shot and we will see what the magic will do...but hey we dont have to worry bout that, the magic are fu*ked with all those terrible contracts...if it was even possible for gilbert to return to his early wizards day form the magic would be a problem...
 08-13-2011, 12:58 PM         #15
ManWithoutFear! 
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 ThaShark316 said:
I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Lebrons one of the best in the biz and all but him and Wade are almost the same player. Wade + Bosh + Howard?

that'll def get the job done
 6 years ago '09        #16
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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I say hell yeah make that deal. It gives the Heat a great center who can score, defend and rebound plus make your whole team that much better defensively. It's a great compliment for Bosh who can now play his face up game and stretch out like he does best. Then it frees up Wade to be Wade and not have to worry about having to co-exist with another superstar talent on the perimeter.

That would be a great deal for the Heat.
 6 years ago '09        #17
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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You guys gotta stop responding to FMoney's alias in here
 6 years ago '06        #18
Qbert 22 heat pts22
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The Heat just need a little tampering, not a blow up like this.
 6 years ago '09        #19
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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 Qbert said:
The Heat just need a little tampering, not a blow up like this.
This is a little tampering not a blow up. You guys gotta get past the name LeBron James and his video game friendly game.

If its whats best for a team then this deal works out for both teams. When the Heat won last Wade carried them on the perimeter with help from role playing defenders and had a two headed monster in Shaq and Zo at Center. Thats what they need to get that title or else they gotta force Wade or Bron to take a step back somehow to the other one.

I have a feeling trading Bron for Dwight would be a lot easier than getting one of them to back down.
 08-13-2011, 01:29 PM         #20
Youngray22 
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^ Lmao Orlando doesn't even like Lebron. Not their fans or Otis. Not to mention Pats not stupid Lebron is young, and Wade is the face of the franchise. I'd rather have Wade show Bron how to be a leader.
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