Cris Carter: Calvin Johnson is great in video games, not in real football

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 08-12-2011, 09:05 PM         #1
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Cris Carter: Calvin Johnson is great in video games, not in real football
 

 

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Cris Carter: Calvin Johnson is great in video games, not in real football
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 12, 2011, 7:19 PM EDT
APEight-time Pro Bowl receiver Cris Carter was asked on ESPN Radio this morning to list the elite wide receivers in the NFL. Lions receiver Calvin Johnson did not make his list.

Instead, Carter said, the top receivers in football are Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Reggie Wayne, DeSean Jackson and Roddy White.

“Calvin Johnson, he’s very, very good at Madden and Tecmo Bowl or whatever they’re playing now,” Carter said. “But on film, when I watch film, and I break down the film, he’s not to the point of these guys yet.”

ESPN Radio’s Mike Greenberg pointed out that Johnson has played with lousy quarterbacks, but Carter wasn’t buying it.

“I made eight Pro Bowls,” Carter said. “I made it with five different quarterbacks. They weren’t always great. So I don’t want to hear the excuse that I’m not playing with a great quarterback.”

Frankly, for Carter to compare the quarterbacks he played with to the quarterbacks Johnson has been saddled with is absurd. In Carter’s best years he was catching passes from Jim McMahon, Sean Salisbury, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham, Jeff George and a prime Daunte Culpepper. Johnson has caught passes from Jon Kitna, Dan Orlovsky, Matthew Stafford, Shaun Hill, Drew Stanton and a past-his-prime Culpepper. Carter’s quarterbacks were far better than Johnson’s.

Carter also downgraded Johnson, he said, because “right now you don’t have to double team him to take him out of the game.” But Tom Kowalski writes at MLive.com that opposing defenses don’t seem to think that’s true: Even with Charles Woodson and Darrelle Revis, the Packers and Jets doubled Johnson last season.

I’m not going to go so far as to say that Carter is simply wrong with his a.ssessment of who the elite receivers in the NFL are, since judging the greatness of a wide receiver is a subjective exercise — as Carter himself has found out when getting passed over for the Hall of Fame. But I will say that Carter’s analysis was weak. Johnson has been held back by the quarterbacks he’s played with, and he hasn’t been shut down by single coverage. And he’s great in more than just video games.


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106 comments for "Cris Carter: Calvin Johnson is great in video games, not in real football"

 7 years ago '04        #2
chctynig2804 2 heat pts
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cris carter is a hater, what else is new??
 7 years ago '05        #3
firehandles 1 heat pts
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desean>>>>calvin???



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 7 years ago '05        #4
Based_One 87 heat pts87
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Damn Cris my n*gga but the hate is strong
 7 years ago '07        #5
st21 1373 heat pts1373
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gtfo out chris carter with your old a.ss.

megatron already > chris carter
 7 years ago '07        #6
st21 1373 heat pts1373
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 ST21 said:
gtfo out chris carter with your old a.ss.

megatron already > chris carter

 firehandles said:
desean>>>>calvin???



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what?

pass that.
 7 years ago '04        #7
T_Buck 9 heat pts
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First he says TO's not in the top 10 all-time, now Megatron's not in the top 6 right now? Dude was a great receiver, but he sucks as an analyst.
 7 years ago '09        #8
A2P89 2 heat pts
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jealousy took over his mind..
 7 years ago '04        #9
GollyI'mGully 69 heat pts69
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re-post
 7 years ago '06        #10
philly337 21 heat pts21
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What the fu*k? Dude is a dumbass...johnson has consistently put upnumbers with multiple qbs (most sh*tty)...orvlosky, stafford,stantin,kitna,culpepper,hill...dude has done the most with the least then anybody else in the league
 7 years ago '05        #11
dahabi 90 heat pts90
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wow. as an eagles fan i can proudly say megatron is miles better than djax
 7 years ago '04        #12
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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If Stafford can stay healthy this year, Johnson could have a GREAT year.
 7 years ago '07        #13
Pistol Peter 33 heat pts33
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 A2P89 said:
jealousy took over his mind..
what does he have to be jealous about?..it's not like he is the trent dilfer of wide receivers..he had a great career..calvin johnson would be lucky to have the numbers that he has
 7 years ago '04        #14
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I guess you guys missed the part where his analysis was based on film??? Not numbers

He said when he watches him on film he isnt on the level of these guys... He is a receiver so he understands routes better than most of us... Cris's judgment is based solely on precision route running and footwork and not athletic talent... Calvin Johnson does not run crisp routes... He just gets away with it because of his size and hands...

Majority of his routes the defender is in good coverage its just Calvin 7 times out of 10 will win any battle with any CB with the ball in the air... Its rare his route running gets him open alone... He commonly has to use his hands and size to get open... The players that Cris named all are great route runners and commonly get open because of their footwork deceiving the defender and getting open... All those receivers have made many CB's look silly with some of their deceptive footwork and fakes..
 7 years ago '04        #15
chctynig2804 2 heat pts
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 dre03 said:


I guess you guys missed the part where his analysis was based on film??? Not numbers

He said when he watches him on film he isnt on the level of these guys... He is a receiver so he understands routes better than most of us... Cris's judgment is based solely on precision route running and footwork and not athletic talent... Calvin Johnson does not run crisp routes... He just gets away with it because of his size and hands...

Majority of his routes the defender is in good coverage its just Calvin 7 times out of 10 will win any battle with any CB with the ball in the air... Its rare his route running gets him open alone... He commonly has to use his hands and size to get open... The players that Cris named all are great route runners and commonly get open because of their footwork deceiving the defender and getting open... All those receivers have made many CB's look silly with some of their deceptive footwork and fakes..
desean jackson is not a good route runner
 7 years ago '05        #16
firehandles 1 heat pts
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 chctynig2804 said:
desean jackson is not a good route runner
yeah what.....u eva seen desean run a curl.....
 7 years ago '11        #17
HipHop Since 93 11 heat pts11
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idgaf if Megatron cant run routes, all I know is if u throw the ball near him, he will catch it
 7 years ago '05        #18
Garnet & Gold 42 heat pts42
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 chctynig2804 said:
desean jackson is not a good route runner
That n*gga has one fu*king route man
 08-13-2011, 12:41 AM         #19
PR0TENTIAL  OP
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Cris Carter hating? What else is new?
 7 years ago '10        #20
justdezit 21 heat pts21
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preciate that cris, just picked up calvin in fantasy and the extra motivation is much appreciated
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