Blasphemy: "Watch The Throne" is full of lyrics disrespecting Jesus Christ

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 6 years ago '11        #141
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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 A-L-P said:






Pac's religous beliefs weren't that much different from Jay's, he believes in God but he doesn't subscribe to any religion. Alot of Pacs lyrics could be considered blasphemous. I know Pac wasn't illuminati or anything, Im just wondering why alot of his stuff gets overlooked while others get singled out. If Jay or Kanye did anything close to the Makaveli album cover this site would have a field day. I wont even get started on Big's blaspemous lyrics and his 666 outfits he used to wear.

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Don't compare jay z and pac lmao pac had so many songs talking about God just like Dmx
 6 years ago '05        #142
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Gods not real though?
 6 years ago '05        #143
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 Kingpin 313 said:
Alot of atheist in this thread when something bad happen I bet y'all be the first ones asking God why me


See you n*ggas on judgment Day
when my daughter died after birth i didnt ask why God me? i said see there def aint no God.
 6 years ago '11        #144
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They disrespected fish filet in one of their songs too
 6 years ago '07        #145
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 justindlawson said:
when my daughter died after birth i didnt ask why God me? i said see there def aint no God.
damm sorry to hear that man
 12-05-2011, 10:10 AM         #146
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 Suge Knight said:
Blasphemy is irreverence[1] toward holy personages, religious artifacts, customs, and beliefs.
Christian theology condemns blasphemy. It is spoken of in the Mark 3:29, where blaspheming the Holy Spirit is spoken of as unforgivable - the eternal sin.





I don't consider myself the perfect person but I'm not gonna sit here and let people hype up this blasphemous album without speaking on it

First off, I'm not against Jay-Z & Kanye speaking their mind b/c we live in a free country. Freedom of speech & religion. So whatever they feel like saying they have a right to say.

I have a problem with this being the most high profile release of the year for, arguably, two of the most influencial artist in Hip Hop. Millions of young kids and hip hop fans are supposed to think it's "cool" to not be religious and diss Christianity.

Without getting too preachy let me say - From a Christian viewpoint - that Satan wants to move mankind away from God and he was also the "angel of music" before he was cast down from heaven





lets get to it.

1. No church in the wild

Human being to the mob
What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
Make it out alive, alright, alright, no church in the wild


- basicly a statement saying they ARE gods. A 5% belief I'm not getting into here...

Blood stains the Colosseum doors
Lies on the lips of priests
Thanksgiving disguised as a feast


- in ancient rome Christians were persecuted and fed to the lions. Christians ran out the indians when they took over america. Hes making a joke, comparing americans eating at thankgiving to lions feasting on Christians in the collissium

I’m wondering if a thug’s prayers reach
Is Pious pious cause God loves pious?


-Pious = Making a hypocritical display of virtue. Jay saying God cant help you


I’m out here balling, I know yall hear my sneaks
Jesus was a carpenter, Yeezy laid beats
Hova flow the Holy Ghost, get the hell up out your seats, preach


- Right here he admits it "hear my SNEAKS" as in "sneak dissin". Subliminal raps that Jay is known for

We formed a new religion
No sins as long as there’s permission
And deception is the only felony
So never fu*k nobody without telling me


- Kanye proclaiming him & Jay as gods. "never f_ck nobody without tellin me" means dont worship other idols. This line right here is very blasphemous


10. murder to Excellence

In sheepskin coats, I silence the lamb
Do you know who I am Clarice?
No cheap cologne whenever I “shh-shh”
Success never smelled so sweet, I stink of success
The new black elite They say my black card bear the mark of the beast
I repeat, My religion is the beat
My verse is like church, My Jesus piece Now please



I bolded the blasphemy
1. Jesus Christ is also called the lamb of God in the bible
2. praising his wealth (black card), mark of beast is 666 aka satans #
3. Jesus piece (peace!) double entoundre, basicly telling the listener to take his word (verse) over Jesus's


Sunday morning, Praise the Lord
You the girl that Jesus had been saving me for
So let’s savor this moment, And take it to the floor


1. savor (savior), take it too the floor = hell


12. Why I love You

That the throne was burning
Rome was burning
And I’m sitting in the corner all alone burning

1. Revelation 4:5 "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne"
2. The Great Fire of Rome began on July 19, AD 64. Nero was Emperor during this fire. Christian tradition and historical sources hold Nero as the first major state sponsor of Christian persecution, and as the k!ller of Apostles Peter and Paul. Some 2nd- and 3rd-century theologians, among others, recorded their belief that Nero would return from death or exile, usually as "the Anti-Christ."



Same people that I fought for
That I f!ght for, that I ride for
That I live for, that I die for
Be the reason that these n*ggas is alive for and they want me dead
But I’m so sorry but I just can’t die for you


1. Comparing his life to Jesus being persecuted but also saying I wont give up my life for you like he did. Basicly saying Jesus died for nothing in so many words


I’ll be fly when Easter’s over
I tried to teach n*ggas how to be kings
And all they ever wanted to be was soldiers


1. Again, Him mocking Jesus (Easter - ressurection of Christ)
2. "become a king" vs "serving God", this is how Satan tempted Adam & Eve to betray God in the bible


8. Welcome to the jungle

Black Axl Rose, move halfs and wholes
Come down to the jungle, just ask for Hov


1. Axl Rose was raised in a very religious household. Rose later described his upbringing as oppressive, stating, "We'd have televisions one week, then my stepdad would throw them out because they were satanic. I wasn't allowed to listen to music. Women were evil. Everything was evil."
2. Jay refering to himself as Jehova, likening himself to being God


Sometimes I look to the sky, ask why I was born
My faith in God, every day is hard
Every night is worse, that’s why I pray so hard
Why I pray so hard, this is crazy God
Just when I thought I had everything, I lost it all
So que sera, get a case of Syrah


1. At one point they were religious praying for things to get better but soon lost faith, calling God "crazy"
2. So que sera is most important line. it means “What will be, will be”. Some people who believe in predestination and election also believe "What will be will be". There is a vast difference in predestination and "What will be will be". Predestination is what God does, so arranging the affairs of man to fulfill His eternal purposes. "What will be will be" a.ssumes that God has predestined every event. God didn't predestinate Satan to sin, but allowed him to sin. So it is with us.


Basicly the song is saying "I had a rough life living in the "jungle", I tried praying for things to be better but God never answered me. So f*ck it I'm gonna get drunk & high and live life how I want b/c I'm going to die anyway (2nd verse has more of this)

P.S. Did you hear Swizz Beats constantly yelling "goddamit" in the background?
- That is a sin (taking God's name in vain). They are doing it on purpose. Because God didnt answer their prayers in the song they forsake his name in anger



I'll stop right here but I encourage you to pay attention to how many times they take Jesus name in vain, mock God, proclaim themselves as "gods" in the flesh. It's literaly sprinkled all through the album.







Kanye & Jay-z are not Christian. They never claimed to be and have pulling stunts like thhis for years. But this album is the biggest in your face disrespect to date. Jay is on record in interviews saying he never read the bible. Add the rumors of illuminati to the mix and no one should be surprised.

In my opinion. Kanye West is a homos3xual & Jay-z is angry at God because he is so ugly. Both have come together to make a blasphemous album.




So, if you are believe in Jesus Christ - think twice before you give any praise to this album or the two cowards who made it.
Much the like the bible anyone can take words and interpret them to mean what they want.........and in all..... this is bullsh*t......and you wasted a whole day on this bullsh*t theory.
 12-05-2011, 10:23 AM         #147
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lol fu*k this thread.
Didnt even download the album
 12-05-2011, 10:26 AM         #148
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 davon4204 said:
Yeah after learning about what this n*gga was into I quit listening 2 his sh*t. He had some great songs back in the day but u can pretty much tell which albums he got into that sh*t on.
 6 years ago '05        #149
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 doomzmaster said:
They disrespected fish filet in one of their songs too


...... On the subject of Jay-Z & Kanye being evil/hating god/etc......

I do not deny there could be a possibility of this. But I also don't deny that there isin't any concrete evidence other than clues(lots).

Life is all about perception IMO. If a glass is half full/half empty there's no real answer its how you perceive it.

When I listen to music i'm looking for the positive and what it means to me. If Jay-Z wants to get butt fu*ked that's between him and god.
 6 years ago '09        #150
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i understand wanting to spread a message but come one. the calling jay ugly and kanye gay part was so unnecessary, and all it did was make some people completely void everything you said
 6 years ago '10        #151
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Yo this thread is funny as fu*k to me.
 12-05-2011, 11:13 AM         #152
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agree with t/s jay went started o/d blaspheming on that on to the next one bullsh*t
 12-05-2011, 12:57 PM         #153
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so let me ask you this if you these two are devil worshipers.......then what about Donald Trump......a rich self worshiping a.ss hole............why not oprah......hell why not Jesus himself...........I mean Allah did exist before the self proclaimed son of god walked the earth......just saying.......live your life and quick d!ck ryding other successful people cause your piece of sh*t life is not progressing at all
 6 years ago '07        #155
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Its funny how OP keep saying he doesn't have an issue but keeps trying decode lyrics which arnt gonna change anything
 6 years ago '07        #156
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Very interesting.

As someone who graduated from a Christian university, this is one of the aspects of Watch the Throne that I most appreciate.

Though I do not agree or think that the way Jay and Kanye are approaching life is helpful, and it will end badly for them, I am glad they are honest and blunt with where they currently stand on issues. This album is deep in numerous areas.

One that I find most interesting is that they denounce God, openly live a life of extravagance and denying God and/or morality, yet they still hold to some form of morality. On “New Day” they express that they want their children to be “raised right” and even mention that the “sins of their father, make their life ten times harder” – therefore admitting they have made bad choices/etc in the past. The next track, “That’s My bi*ch,” – discusses women in ways that are not honoring but are degrading. Jay knows this in some measure, since he will no longer use that language to describe women since his daughter has been born.

Though Jay and Kanye do not believe or honor God, they seemingly can’t get him off of their minds. And, they still want to stand for some measure of morality. My question is, why would you even care about issues of morality if there isn’t a God?

Ultimately, they do what all sinners do. They make a God out of something else besides the God of the bible, namely themselves and their possessions. All human beings worship something (money, women, food, entertainment), and what one worships will determine what their present and future life will look like.
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