Jay Z & Kanye West - Watch The Throne [Official Discussion Thread] #WatchTheThrone

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 08-08-2011, 05:55 AM         #1201
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I give it a 3/5 maybe 3.5. Which is not to say the album is bad at all.

For me, the album starts off pretty rocky (I see people riding on n*ggas in Paris but that sounds like a generic southern beat for Yo Gotti/Gucci Mane. Great but not "WOW!")
But the second half of the album is a bit better with Who Gon Stop Me, murder To Excellence, That's My bi*ch, Made it In America go well with Otis
The RZA and Pete Rock records, while not bad, dont seem great considering who made them.

It's interesting that people feel that the production is the saving grace of the album (at least from the other places online and here). I think that's where the problems lay. Constructing them is fine but the beat-making seems to be all over the place, switching and experiment in one record an a lot of little interludes at the end. It felt like Kanye tried to give the MBTDF playbook to other producers with varying results at time.
From a rapping standpoint, both artists had an opportunity to come up with some creative rhymes and narratives and it seemed like their surroundings while recording this album was what we got (Lot of self-congratulatory sh*t and partying in Europe sh*t). That's all fine and well if we had not seen it before or its something you know that's what people expect from them. But while you can argue thats what they should rap about , creatively these two have made better records together on each others albums with more content (Never Let Me Down being one)
 6 years ago '10        #1202
A.Dot789 1053 heat pts1053
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the production saves the album, lyrics are nothing special, but still an overall dope album
 6 years ago '06        #1203
Hussle 36 heat pts36
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so am i the only one that still likes HAM


its one my favourite on the album
 6 years ago '08        #1204
HF-Blade 1 heat pts
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 Hussle said:
so am i the only one that still likes HAM


its one my favourite on the album
that sh*t goes :agreement6:

when the choir kicks in i be like
 6 years ago '04        #1205
KREW 25 heat pts25
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After a few listens, one in the whip, I've decided on the album:

1. No Church In The Wild - 5/5
2. Lift Off - 3/5
3. n*ggas In Paris - 4/5
4. Otis - 5/5
5. Gotta Have It - 4/5
6. New Day - 5/5
7. That's My bi*ch - 4/5
8. Welcome To The Jungle - 4/5
9. Who Gon Stop Me - 5/5
10. murder To Excellence - 5/5, overall for both beats
11. Made In America - 4/5
12. Why I Love You - 5/5
13. Illest Mothefu*ker Alive - 5/5
14. H.A.M. - 4/5
15. Primetime - 4/5
16. The Joy - 5/5

It's a pretty solid album imo. Way better than most albums released this year. Def gonna be in my Top 5 of the year, I already know it. I added Monster and So Appalled for 17 and 18 for the fu*k of it.
 6 years ago '06        #1206
Storchaveli 94 heat pts94
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Production - 3.5/5

Lyrics - :sleepy:

Jay's flow/rhymes - see above rating for lyrics

Kanye's flow/rhymes - :nope:

Gayness - 5/5

Overratedness - 4.5/5

Album booklet - 5/5


Overall review: Pretty gay, overrated, overhyped album with mediocre lyrics by Jay (as usual), "Really?" rhymes by Kanye and nice production.
 6 years ago '05        #1207
Left Hook 28 heat pts28
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 Hussle said:
so am i the only one that still likes HAM


its one my favourite on the album
 HF-Blade said:
that sh*t goes :agreement6:

when the choir kicks in i be like
Word, I love it. It has a Blue Magic feel to it; it's raw but for some reason everyone hates it.
 6 years ago '05        #1208
thaghost36 25 heat pts25
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this is going to be on rotation.. FOR YEARS TO COME!!
 6 years ago '05        #1209
pokora 
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 Storchaveli said:
Production - 3.5/5

Lyrics - :sleepy:

Jay's flow/rhymes - see above rating for lyrics

Kanye's flow/rhymes - :nope:

Gayness - 5/5

Overratedness - 4.5/5

Album booklet - 5/5


Overall review: Pretty gay, overrated, overhyped album with mediocre lyrics by Jay (as usual), "Really?" rhymes by Kanye and nice production.
nice review
 6 years ago '07        #1210
CheezyDoDo 15 heat pts15
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why does everybody hate liftoff ?
i love the powerful rush it gives me full of juicy plump sounds and fresh lyrics
 6 years ago '06        #1211
Blah 17 heat pts17
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Its a 3 out of 5 barely
The lyrics were weak .. they dont sound rite together on a lot of the songs
this is one of those albums where you'll look back down the line and say hell were they thinking.
no real stand out track except for murder to Excellence even tho Ye's lil singing almost ruined it
if they decide to follow this sh*t up with another album later on they better go the fu*k in
a lot of throw away verses

i expect way more from Hov, can tell he leaned more towards the direction Ye wanted
thats why this album is so iffy
 6 years ago '05        #1212
Left Hook 28 heat pts28
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 - Streetz - said:
Its a 3 out of 5 barely
The lyrics were weak .. they dont sound rite together on a lot of the songs
this is one of those albums where you'll look back down the line and say hell were they thinking.
no real stand out track except for murder to Excellence even tho Ye's lil singing almost ruined it
if they decide to follow this sh*t up with another album later on they better go the fu*k in
a lot of throw away verses

i expect way more from Hov, can tell he leaned more towards the direction Ye wanted
thats why this album is so iffy
Haha, I said that same feeling.
 6 years ago '11        #1213
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 Storchaveli said:
Production - 3.5/5

Lyrics - :sleepy:

Jay's flow/rhymes - see above rating for lyrics

Kanye's flow/rhymes - :nope:

Gayness - 5/5

Overratedness - 4.5/5

Album booklet - 5/5


Overall review: Pretty gay, overrated, overhyped album with mediocre lyrics by Jay (as usual), "Really?" rhymes by Kanye and nice production.
This.
 6 years ago '10        #1214
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 twindeserteagle said:
lift off is actually one of the best joints
 6 years ago '10        #1215
MistaKlean 1 heat pts
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"lift off" may be one of the worst songs I have heard this year. fu*k is up with Kanye mumbling? absolutely horrible. I would be embarassed to put out a song like that if I was either of them.
 6 years ago '05        #1216
EastBroadway 35 heat pts35
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Album Is CRACK!





















































Album Is C.R.A.C.K!
 6 years ago '05        #1217
Bobby's World 9 heat pts
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 ash1990 said:
I just heard the whole album it's

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This.
 6 years ago '09        #1218
McmasterlockPt2 41 heat pts41
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I'm late,did the album leaked yet?
 6 years ago '04        #1219
bigtrevdogg 
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very average....It seems like Jay took Kanye route
 6 years ago '04        #1220
ShaDoW1 7 heat pts
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lyrics aint nothin special..production is sick tho
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