Kanye VS. Jay-Z (infographic)

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 6 years ago '10        #81
Agentzer0oo0 209 heat pts209
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 Dangerously said:
College Dropout 5/5
Late Registration 5/5
Graduation 4/5
808s 3.5/5
MBDTF 5.5/5

Kanye's MBDTF is an album that transcends traditional hip hop. It's music, period. It's not about just hot bars or hot beats, it's about how everything comes together. Some of you will never understand that unfortunately.
And this is where most people will clash & debates will ensue. I understand how great MBDTF sounds but at the end of the day this is hip-hop my n*gga. This isn't opera, this isn't mozart, this isn't rock, this isn't pop.

This is hip-hop.

The same way I called Thank Me Later a classic pop album, is the same way I'ma judge MBDTF. It is fantastic as a album period. But hip-hop wise & hip-hop wise only, it lacks. I'm sorry. You're one of the biggest Ye fans & i'm sure you'll be the first to proudly admit it but that album isn't a classic HIP-HOP album.
 08-06-2011, 11:25 AM         #82
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 Agentzer0oo0 said:
And this is where most people will clash & debates will ensue. I understand how great MBDTF sounds but at the end of the day this is hip-hop my n*gga. This isn't opera, this isn't mozart, this isn't rock, this isn't pop.

This is hip-hop.

The same way I called Thank Me Later a classic pop album, is the same way I'ma judge MBDTF. It is fantastic as a album period. But hip-hop wise & hip-hop wise only, it lacks. I'm sorry. You're one of the biggest Ye fans & i'm sure you'll be the first to proudly admit it but that album isn't a classic HIP-HOP album.
so whats stopping it from being a classic music album?
 6 years ago '06        #83
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 trock34 said:
MBDTF is a classic

great read though props
its so trendy n current as of 2009....the albums whole style n feel is hipsterish n wont b listened to 5 years from now
 6 years ago '07        #84
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 Agentzer0oo0 said:
And this is where most people will clash & debates will ensue. I understand how great MBDTF sounds but at the end of the day this is hip-hop my n*gga. This isn't opera, this isn't mozart, this isn't rock, this isn't pop.

This is hip-hop.

The same way I called Thank Me Later a classic pop album, is the same way I'ma judge MBDTF. It is fantastic as a album period. But hip-hop wise & hip-hop wise only, it lacks. I'm sorry. You're one of the biggest Ye fans & i'm sure you'll be the first to proudly admit it but that album isn't a classic HIP-HOP album.
thank me later isnt classic anything
 6 years ago '06        #85
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 TH35 said:
thank me later isnt classic anything
I can't believe n*ggas calling MDTF classic...and Late Registration is clearly Kanye's best album. Though in some respects, it was too long (pause).
 6 years ago '04        #86
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kanye has 4 classics in my imo
 08-06-2011, 12:30 PM         #87
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 Agentzer0oo0 said:
And this is where most people will clash & debates will ensue. I understand how great MBDTF sounds but at the end of the day this is hip-hop my n*gga. This isn't opera, this isn't mozart, this isn't rock, this isn't pop.

This is hip-hop.

The same way I called Thank Me Later a classic pop album, is the same way I'ma judge MBDTF. It is fantastic as a album period. But hip-hop wise & hip-hop wise only, it lacks. I'm sorry. You're one of the biggest Ye fans & i'm sure you'll be the first to proudly admit it but that album isn't a classic HIP-HOP album.
in the traditional sense, it's not a classic hip hop album. but it's showing what hip hop is gonna be like for the next 10-15 years, so in the long run, it will be a classic hip hop album. it's gonna change what's considered hip hop and what perceptions people have of it.
 08-06-2011, 12:33 PM         #88
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 Left Hook said:
You're overrating Kanye's ability as a songwriter. He's Kanye West, not Ludwig van Beethoven. If you're going to overrate the hell out of someone's composition ability or tell people to "trust you", I'm going to need you to tell me what sort of qualifications you have in claiming that no one else can replicate what 'Ye did.

Beethoven was deaf and he wrote symphonies that Ye will never match with both of his ears and all his equipment.

Kanye West is probably the greatest Hip-Hop artist; he has a knack for putting sounds together and is a gifted producer, but to say that much about the Runaway outro? I can't get down with that. I'm giving Kanye his props because I love his music, but come on, man, let's not get too carried away.
nah, it really is that good. you hear distorted garbage, but there is a melody and all that sh*t in those 3 minutes. i memorized the whole thing n*gga, it's legitimately a part of the song that sounds dope.

it's gotten to the point where this album is universally praised by anyone that knows sh*t about music and that part of the song always gets props. maybe you just don't get it? nothin wrong with that..
 6 years ago '08        #89
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Kanye doesnt have more classics than Jay. If MBDTF is classic then american gangster damn sure is to.
 6 years ago '09        #90
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imo jay-z is goat of our generation/era of hip hop, nobody else has ever been more consistently great than him.

but kanye is the next one

i remember watching the grammys with my lil sis and thinking about this. when this younger generation looks back at this is era in rap, their gonna look at kanye. the man already passed michael jackson in grammys for god's sake.

WTT is gonna be pivotal for kanye's transition to that status. this album is gonna be jay-z passing the torch to kanye.


 SteveMachine said:
kanye will go down as hip hop's greatest artist
straight up.
 hedake said:
jay better rapper, kanye better artist
this.

 BRonin357 said:
The only prob i have with the infographic is the bias toward Yeezy, albeit laid out in side bars I still find it somewhat disheartening. 1st off, past the 3 he mentioned, there was vol 1, vol 2, and american gangster. vol 1 while commercial was still a banger and classics like you must love me, streets is watching, rap game/crack game, and imaginary player! vol 2 had reservoir dogs, paper chase, hand it down, and AG had falling, sweet, american dream, say hello! I will say that Kanye has had better deep felt songs like blame game, I wonder. Either way the throne is being passed on to Yeezy.
co-sign.

 Illstreet said:
By the way, I think "Vol. 1" is slowly becoming my Second Favorite Jay-Z album after "Reasonable Doubt".

I don't even acknowledge "I Know What Girls Like" or "Sunshine"... But the rest of that album is classic sh*t from top to bottom...

1997 Jay was was on some other sh*t... When you figure in "Young G's" and "I Love The Dough", as well as "Wishing On A Star".

Goddamnit @ Him putting those two awful fukking tracks on that album and fukking the whole sh*t up.
don't forget "lucky me"

"dont grieve for me my art remains
like a dart from the speaker to your heart
spiritually through the portal, now my words are immortal"


jay '97>

 Cantankerous said:
Ye 1 project short of topping Jay icon wise, and musically. Ye got 3 classics, CD, Graduation, MBDTF. They represent two different type of personas, Jay represents the culture from a street/ business savy rapper with high technical ability, aand Ye embodies innovation, artistry, and a more cross-cultural audience. Ye the Don.


i feel the same way, late registration would be a classic if it wasn't for all those features. you can have alot of features and make a classic album but not if your getting your a.ss kicked by those features. jay, nas, and even common overshined kanye thurout that album. CD, Graduation (kanye's "blueprint"), and MBDTF are his classics.
 6 years ago '10        #91
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 Karamu said:
so whats stopping it from being a classic music album?
Classic music album? It is a classic music album I just don't see it as a classic hip-hop album.

Like for example Thriller. Thriller is a classic pop album no-one can dispute it. But being a classic album musically? Some people have debated whether that's the case or not.


 TH35 said:
thank me later isnt classic anything
Sonnnnnnnnnnnnnn TH lol..don't front like you wasn't bumping Fireworks. or Unforgettable or Cece's Interlude or Light it Up.

Don't front


 SeaJaiye said:
in the traditional sense, it's not a classic hip hop album. but it's showing what hip hop is gonna be like for the next 10-15 years, so in the long run, it will be a classic hip hop album. it's gonna change what's considered hip hop and what perceptions people have of it.


If the view changes like you said then I'll change my stance & I think that will be case but for now, nahh.
 6 years ago '10        #92
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Kanye started Bape hoodies now? I guess they forgot about Pharrell.
 6 years ago '11        #93
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 Illstreet said:
By the way, the original version of "Home" from the "I'm Good" mixtape is a Top 5 All time Kanye West song...




That Coldplay(and I fukk with Coldplay) a.ssisted abomination "Homecoming" on "Graduation" fukking sucks...

Just felt the need to express that.
i agree. john legend did his thing on it too
 6 years ago '04        #94
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this sh*t got jay looking mundane compared to ye...lol
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