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Puff Daddy had Tupac Shakur Murdered |own analysis


 
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 7 years ago '06        #26
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Wow Biggie bias already, plus your reaching towards Jupiter saying Mase "who's Jewels got robbed" refers to 2pac, wtf lol jewels get robbed all the time

 7 years ago '05        #27
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 Chief Dee said
I know that Suge didnt k!ll Pac because LAPD and the FBI in the 90's was trying HARD to link Suge to any crime that would bring him down. David Kenner had to save his a.ss numerous times, and if the law had their way, Suge would have meant many MORE years in prison than he already has thus far. You saw how quick they were to toss his a.ss in jail for violating probation for the MGM Grand f!ght. They were itching to put Suge away. So if they would have had the chance to stick a murder on Suge, ANY murder, yet alone one like Pac's, then they would have done so with no hesitation. Suge would be in prison for murder if he k!lled Pac.
This :applause:

 7 years ago '08        #28
Chief Dee 6 heat pts
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 bkid said
but Suge did order the Biggie k!lling tho
the only reason he wasnt arrested for that is because LAPD cops were involved in that, and the LAPD image was so tarnished because of the Rampart Scandal at that time that they decided to not go further
I agree, I know in my soul Suge k!lled Biggie but not Pac since the law was only able to put Suge in jail for the MGM Grand f!ght and nothing more.

And the reason he ducked the murder he did do (i.e Biggie) was because I think him being in prison at the time of Biggie's murder kinda helped him out because the FBI had already achieved the goal of diminishing Suge and he had cop help. Plus I a.ssume that it's tougher to prove without a reasonable doubt that a man in jail was involved in arranging a murder than it is to prove that a free man (as Suge was when Pac died) arranged a murder.

 7 years ago '08        #29
EMER1TUS 11 heat pts11
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Really, so you name a brand new Profile BiG Suge Knight then proceed to bash Diddy



How Original and I'm a huge Pac fan

I don't know who did it or if Puff was involved, but I do know you looking for some attention

 7 years ago '07        #30
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 Chief Dee said
I know that Suge didnt k!ll Pac because LAPD and the FBI in the 90's was trying HARD to link Suge to any crime that would bring him down. David Kenner had to save his a.ss numerous times, and if the law had their way, Suge would have meant many MORE years in prison than he already has thus far. You saw how quick they were to toss his a.ss in jail for violating probation for the MGM Grand f!ght. They were itching to put Suge away. So if they would have had the chance to stick a murder on Suge, ANY murder, yet alone one like Pac's, then they would have done so with no hesitation. Suge would be in prison for murder if he k!lled Pac.
i firmly believe suge had pac k!lled.i watched a documentary wit 1 of pacs bodyguards,i cant think of tha name.he went well into depth
wtf?by that same logic then they woulda put him in jail for biggies death,bein as how u say lata that he had him k!lled.
anybody who gets into a f!ght while on probation is gettin violated wit tha quickness.especially if tha sh*t is on tape

 07-31-2011, 03:31 AM         #31
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Pac got k!lled by the FBI, case closed. I personally know males who have slept with puffy.through.the industry or whateger it is quite shocking

 07-31-2011, 03:39 AM         #32
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I really don't care to cast stones at who k!lled who. But I do appreciated TS recognized the fact Life After death was trash and as a whole Biggie's career was... well trash.

 7 years ago '10        #33
uddart 1 heat pts
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Well it isnt trash, he is just overrated. People calling him the GOAT with 2 albums

Anyway, Puff and Biggie didnt do a thing when it all went down. And Pac had helped him a lot to the top, and got no love back. That is some sucker sh*t

 07-31-2011, 05:57 AM         #34
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 Suge Knight said
f*ck it matter what year he got k!lled in. Point is that Puffy had it set up and no one here can post evidence that he didn't.

bunch a loudmouth cowards.
lol, this n*gga ...he actually thought pac died in 95 ..hahaha oh sh*t, even suge knight not that dumb ...this troll failed straight off the bat

step ya hip hip history game up son.

 7 years ago '10        #35
SickaMorStyle 402 heat pts402
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 Suge Knight said
That fat coward disrespecting my homie Pac after he passed:
To many people have things twisted about this track...There are actually 3 different versions of this track...

*The Original Original Version Of Long Kiss Goodnight That Was Made Before Pac Was murdered And Biggie Really Get's At Pac(Different Lyric's To The Album Version)

*Long Kiss Goodnight OG(Ft Cappadonna)

*Long Kiss Goodnight- Album Version


After pac died they changed the lyrics..It would have been disrespectful and unjust for them to release it as it was originally...

 07-31-2011, 07:01 AM         #36
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 7 years ago '10        #37
SickaMorStyle 402 heat pts402
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FBI k!lled pac


On another note....Check out the 2002 Documentary Biggie and Tupac..

@1:02:30 they introduce a man named Mark Hyland known as the"The Bookkeeper"..He admits that suge knight had biggie k!lled...


Last edited by SickaMorStyle; 07-31-2011 at 07:45 AM.. Reason: Changed Mark highland to Mark Hyland

 7 years ago '07        #38
cankstoochie 48 heat pts48
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Kirk Burrowes, ex-president of Bad Boy Entertainment, is making explosive claims in new court papers which implicate Sean 'P Diddy' Combs in the 1995 murder of Tupac Shakur.


stopped reading after this

 7 years ago '11        #39
Suge Knight 44 heat pts44 OP
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There is this scientific method i learned in University called "Process of Elimination" I wont get into the details, but it is a good way to find the best answer.

Now

lets look at the 3 most common answers for 2Pac's death

1. "Suge k!lled Pac"
2. "Police/FBI k!lled Pac"
3. "Puff Daddy k!lled Pac"

I will break it down usineing science I learned

1. this is the stupidest one. Why would you have ur best friend murdered when you sitting right next to him in the car. It was a drive by SHOOTING!. Think about the danger you are in sitting next to the person shot to death. Why Risk your own life??

So we gonna cross this answer out b/c its not logicalical

2. Do you believe in UFO's? Did aliens build the pryamids? Perhaps you saw bigfoot last time you went camping. Or maybe 2Pac's in Cuba? It amazes me the amount of foolishness ppl will believe when faced with facts. 2Pac was merely an entertainer in the governments eyes. I wont say its IMPOSSIBLE, but there are no hard facts to support this outrageeuous claim

So we gonna cross this answer out cause we live in the real world

3. We arrive at the only logical conclusion. Puffy had 2Pac murdered.


Motive?

2Pac was ridin hard on Bad Boy, humiliating them and even sleeping with that coward Biggies wife. If Pac woulda lived, Bad Boy woulda crumbled like Murda Inc. Puff took out the top rapper to make sure his artists can eat and he could continue to make money off them.

But Puff is a good guy, he wouldnt do that... right?


Wrong. Everything we know about the coward Sean Combs points to him being a scumbag on the highest level. Enslaves his artists and steals from them? Check. Look at every Bad Boy artist who signed wit Puff, their life is in ruins. If he was a good guy this wouldnt be the case.

Most importantly he is a homo. He is already breaking the 10 commandments by having butts3x with men. he is already stealing from artist. why not make it 3/10 and go for murder?

The only reason you niccas defend Puff Daddy is because he is rich. And in your twisted minds he is someone to look up to because you want to be rich too. Nevermind how he got there and what type of person he is. F*ck that nicca.

 7 years ago '11        #40
Suge Knight 44 heat pts44 OP
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I had to update my first post with my last b/c so much truth right there.

niccas gonna laugh in the face of facts?

la times and ex bad boy president confirmed it

 7 years ago '07        #41
wtr1906 45 heat pts45
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Why are we even responding to this thread???? Its fu*kin' 2011...

 7 years ago '11        #42
Suge Knight 44 heat pts44 OP
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 fred dibnah said
fu*k off and die alt id 15 yr old
Watch how you talk to me. Ill have you found in a river

 7 years ago '07        #43
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 Suge Knight said
There is this scientific method i learned in University called "Process of Elimination" I wont get into the details, but it is a good way to find the best answer.

Now

lets look at the 3 most common answers for 2Pac's death

1. "Suge k!lled Pac"
2. "Police/FBI k!lled Pac"
3. "Puff Daddy k!lled Pac"

I will break it down usineing science I learned

1. this is the stupidest one. Why would you have ur best friend murdered when you sitting right next to him in the car. It was a drive by SHOOTING!. Think about the danger you are in sitting next to the person shot to death. Why Risk your own life??

So we gonna cross this answer out b/c its not logicalical


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wait a min,your a foreigner

 7 years ago '08        #44
Chief Dee 6 heat pts
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Another thing that makes me believe without a shadow of a doubt that Suge didnt k!ll Pac is that Suge was a man of intimidation who often times got what he wanted without actually having to murder someone. If there is any truth to the internet rumor that Pac was leaving DR and trying to take his music with him, then there are other ways Suge could have muscled Pac out of his music, royalties, and masters WITHOUT k!lling him, just as he stole death Row from Dre and robbed Snoop out of royalties without having to k!ll either of them.

After all, Suge routinely screwed people out of their money and music rights either just by having them beaten or by threatening them. Suge had his goons surround Eazy E with baseball bats and forced him to let Dr. Dre out his contract with Ruthless, Suge threatened Garry Bellen and forced him to apologize to Dre, Suge had Mark Anthony Bell beaten for not giving Puffy's address, Suge had Warren G beat up for taking credit for "The Chronic", Suge had Happy Walter kidnapped for arguing with him over an album apperance dispute, Suge had Andre Harrell beaten so that he could take over management of Jodeci, etc. But most the time, Suge ultimately allowed the victim to live once he had gotten from that what he wanted.

 7 years ago '11        #45
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 SickaMorStyle said
To many people have things twisted about this track...There are actually 3 different versions of this track...

*The Original Original Version Of Long Kiss Goodnight That Was Made Before Pac Was murdered And Biggie Really Get's At Pac(Different Lyric's To The Album Version)

*Long Kiss Goodnight OG(Ft Cappadonna)

*Long Kiss Goodnight- Album Version


After pac died they changed the lyrics..It would have been disrespectful and unjust for them to release it as it was originally...
c/s

but talk that album seemed to be goin at pac. from the song titles to lyrics. its almost as if they were bragging about as if they untouchable

 07-31-2011, 07:53 PM         #46
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 Chief Dee said
After all, Suge routinely screwed people out of their money and music rights either just by having them beaten or by threatening them. Suge had his goons surround Eazy E with baseball bats and forced him to let Dr. Dre out his contract with Ruthless, Suge threatened Garry Bellen and forced him to apologize to Dre, Suge had Mark Anthony Bell beaten for not giving Puffy's address, Suge had Warren G beat up for taking credit for "The Chronic", Suge had Happy Walter kidnapped for arguing with him over an album apperance dispute, Suge had Andre Harrell beaten so that he could take over management of Jodeci, etc. But most the time, Suge ultimately allowed the victim to live once he had gotten from that what he wanted.

Had no idea Suge Deebo'ed so many people. And that's leaving out Vanilla Ice


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And this chick on the dance floor


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 7 years ago '04        #47
Skilllz 1 heat pts
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fu*k diddy anyway, i'd believe it.

 7 years ago '05        #48
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first off I believe puffy had him k!lled too BUT your critical thinking skills and process of elimination techniques wont fly in a court of law..I like what you showed with the lyrics tho..anyways..truth will come to light eventually..time is a motherfu*ker

 7 years ago '07        #49
Damagegadget 493 heat pts493
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this dude got suge down to a T...lol suge you know what happened... tell the truth B

 7 years ago '08        #50
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 Chief Dee said
Yep, they knew. Big was even hanging out with the dudes that shot Pac when Pac was in jail. Which is why that Dexter Issac dude who claimed he shot Pac even gave a shoutout to Biggie specifically calling him a "friend". Pac said when he was a jail dudes was coming up to him telling him that Biggie's homeboys shot him, and it was true. But people thought, "oh, Pac just bugging out yada yada".

Pac was pissed about not getting a heads up because he himself had helped artists in the past avoid harm. Like when Pac saved Tim Dog in the Bay and Pac saved Treach from some Crips. But nobody did the same for him that night.
this is what ppl dont understand...

put yourself in pacs shoes..you'd be PISSED too.

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