Phil Jackson: Kobe Wants to Pass Michael Jordan in Scoring

most viewed right now
 84
Video inside My experience after record deal (warning)
129 comments
@wild'ish
most viewed right now
 64
Video inside Joe Budden at age 26 vs Quavious Marshall at age 26
41 comments
@hiphop
most viewed right now
 60
Image(s) inside Drake Says He's With The GOAT
48 comments
@hiphop
most viewed right now
 44
Image(s) inside Only 500 followers, catch her before she blow as a ig thot
32 comments
@thotsdimesetc

section   (0 bx goons and 1 bystanders) Share this on Twitter   Share this on Facebook
 

Props Slaps
 6 years ago '05        #81
J 39 heat pts39
space
avatar space
space
$16,762 | Props total: 3213 3213
 The Bully said:
you ethered fatbury aka gravy guts aka bacon blood aka lardo
nooooooooooooooooo this dude did not jus say bacon blood
 07-24-2011, 09:56 PM         #82
Willye 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
 philly337 said:


So u are under 20


And please...nobody hardly even plays fu*king zone...mavs are one of the only teams who play the sh*t on a consistent basis everybody else runs man 99% of the time. And kobe still ain't fu*king close tov what mike was doing with no handchecking and centers not being allowed to camp in the lane (def 3 sec)

There was handchecking against mike lol nah Mike played by diff rules this post is simply about scoring which kobe bryant is a better pure scorer you have not a clue... The players today are so much more gifted athletic stronger faster ... Who gonna check kobe lol ... Starks lol dumars lol are you serious ...

Mike was not respected behind the arc until later on...

40 ppg easy kobe is just a pure scorer makes it look so easy his footwork is sick post up game sick jumper sick
 6 years ago '10        #83
SmoothTay 23 heat pts23
space
avatar space
space
$26,589 | Props total: 30524 30524
 6 years ago '06        #84
philly337 20 heat pts20
space
avatar space
space
$28,945 | Props total: 10597 10597
 Willye said:
There was handchecking against mike lol nah Mike played by diff rules this post is simply about scoring which kobe bryant is a better pure scorer you have not a clue... The players today are so much more gifted athletic stronger faster ... Who gonna check kobe lol ... Starks lol dumars lol are you serious ...

Mike was not respected behind the arc until later on...

40 ppg easy kobe is just a pure scorer makes it look so easy his footwork is sick post up game sick jumper sick
He just got "checked" by an old and smaller jason kidd and swept out the playoffs....17 points

Oh yea dont forget an old broke down mike who was limited to a flat jumper played in todays league with todays rules and was 7th in scoring before his knees started fu*king up but was still putting up 20+

A prime jordan with the ability to drive and consistent jumper would have sh*t all over them
 6 years ago '06        #85
Fiya Starter 4 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$850 | Props total: 32 32
 atl12o13 said:
Minus Shaq,Jordan teamed with Kukoc and Pippen is a better second and third than anything Kobe has had...Ill take Pippen over Gasol twice on any day,and Kukoc and LO are actually alot alike offensively...I will give you the high school thing,but you cant use when he came to the league as a point in his favor...Kobe was the first guard really ever to come out of high school....him and TMAC are really the only really successful ones in my mind too,but thats another subject.
Did this dude say Toni Kukoc, get the fu*k outta here. He wasn't there for the first three rings and you never heard his name after MJ retired. Pipen I will give you but I would trade him for Gasol Bynum and Artest.

 MPLSallstar said:
This is Kobe's second lockout season, injury riddled 4 years, played off the bench two years, and STILL is going to pass Michael Jordan in scoring.

So what MJ missed a season with a broke foot and missed 2 with a broken heart. He was on the bench for a reason because he was the second best sg on the team. It aint MJ fault he didnt go to college.

 Willye said:
Kobe is the best scorer this game has ever seen period if you dont understand that than you are and idiot... Just look what he did after shaq left bean was setting records left and right put up 80+ could of put up another 80 or more but sat the bench in the 4th against dallas that same year there is nobody that is a pure scorer like kobe including mike and y well its quite simple

Post up game even
Ft shooter kobe is better
Midrange game even
3pt shot kobe...

I dont agree with evens and better statements but if I did Kobe isnt better in a category you left out WINNING. People argue about the zone but nobody even plays a zone. Even though they had ilegal defense you could still double and triple team people. MJ used to draw triple coverage all the time. Jordan was better at attacking the basket, his fadeaway was better.

Men lie women lie numbers don't. MJ actually got better as his career progressed. Kobe disappeared in the Dallas series.
 6 years ago '06        #86
Fiya Starter 4 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$850 | Props total: 32 32
Even if he pass MJ in scoring he will never surpass his scoring average and he wont pass Kareem
 6 years ago '04        #87
ddash 1 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$22,968 | Props total: 3459 3459
To bad even if he does, he stilll wont be equal to or anywhere near as great as jordan.

Give it up Kobe.

Always been a bi*ch a.ss n*gga.
 07-24-2011, 10:21 PM         #88
Willye 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
This is not and argument about who is better just who is a better pure scorer and that goes to kobe hands down watch the 2 players people are talking about last year are you serious #8 do you remember that guy people have no clue ...

Kobe played in the leaguebefore 04-05 when there was h-check Case closed just a better scorer period
 6 years ago '06        #89
lmnop 122 heat pts122
space
space
space
$20,854 | Props total: 944 944
 shadychef04 said:
Brian Scalabrine > Kobe and MJ


[pic - click to view]

:scalabrinedealwithit: ?
 6 years ago '06        #90
philly337 20 heat pts20
space
avatar space
space
$28,945 | Props total: 10597 10597
 Willye said:
This is not and argument about who is better just who is a better pure scorer and that goes to kobe hands down watch the 2 players people are talking about last year are you serious #8 do you remember that guy people have no clue ...

Kobe played in the leaguebefore 04-05 when there was h-check Case closed just a better scorer period


Remember, Kobe has played in 60 more games than Michael, he should be way ahead of him if he's better.

You can't deny facts folks, don't even try....

Rookie of the Year Michael Jordan: Yes Kobe Bryant: No

In his rookie year, Michael Jordan led his team in scoring, rebounding, a.ssists and steals.

All-Rookie First Team Michael Jordan: Yes Kobe Bryant: No

Seasons over 30 points per game: Michael Jordan: 8 Kobe Bryant: 2

Seasons over 32 points per game: Michael Jordan: 5 Kobe Bryant: 1

Regular season Seasons under 50% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 15 Michael Jordan: 9

Seasons under 48% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 15 Michael Jordan: 5

Seasons over 50% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 0 Michael Jordan: 6

Seasons over 52% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 0 Michael Jordan: 4

Regular season Games with under 50% shooting: Michael Jordan: 489 Kobe Bryant: 678

Regular season Games with under 48% shooting: Michael Jordan: 458 Kobe Bryant: 651

Regular season Games with under 46% shooting: Michael Jordan: 388 Kobe Bryant: 578

Regular season Games with under 44% shooting: Michael Jordan: 296 Kobe Bryant: 490

Regular season Games with under 42% shooting: Michael Jordan: 234 Kobe Bryant: 426

Regular season Games with under 40% shooting: Michael Jordan: 158 Kobe Bryant: 344

Regular season Games with under 35% shooting: Michael Jordan: 88 Kobe Bryant: 207

Regular season Games with under 30% shooting: Michael Jordan: 41 Kobe Bryant: 107

Regular season Games with 60% or better shooting: Michael "Air" Jordan: 173 Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 129

Regular season Games with 50% or better shooting: Michael "Air" Jordan: 556 Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 425

Regular season Games with 20 shots made on 60% or better shooting: MJ: 16 Kobe: 3

Regular season Games with 50 points & less than 10 free throw attempts: MJ: 3 Kobe: 1

NBA Playoffs 50 point or higher games: Kobe: 1 MJ: 8

NBA Playoffs 40 point or higher games: Kobe: 11 MJ: 38

NBA Playoffs 30 point or higher games: Kobe: 81 MJ: 109

Regular season & Playoffs combined 40 point or higher games: MJ: 211 Kobe: 118

Regular season & Playoffs combined 30 point or higher games: MJ: 671 Kobe: 441

Regular season Games with 40 points and under 50% shooting: MJ: 29 Kobe: 45 Yes, that's right, almost half of Kobe's 40 point games involved missing more shots than made ones. Regular Season Turnovers: Kobe: 3228 in 1103 games MJ: 2924 in 1072 games Regular season 50 point games with under 50% shooting: Michael Jordan: 1 of his 31 games (15-31, 48%) Kobe Bryant: 6 of his 24 games

Regular season 50 point games with under 45% shooting: Michael Jordan: 0 Kobe Bryant: 3 Kobe has only 7 career 50 point games or higher against top 10 rated defenses. Jordan had 22 career 50 point games or higher against top 10 rated NBA defenses. Check this website for more articles pertaining to the differences in eras and the way defenders were/are allowed to operate. Scoring titles: Michael Jordan: 10 Kobe Bryant: 2

Of course Jordan has the most scoring titles in NBA history. He also led the league in total points his rookie season, but was third in scoring average. He is the only player besides Wilt Chamberlain to score 3,000 points in a season.

Career Player Efficiency Rating: Michael Jordan: 27.91 Kobe Bryant: 23.53

Shot made/miss differential stat: - Each 2 point shot made is worth 1 point. - Each shot missed is worth negative 1 point (I do not penalize a missed 3 point shot by 1.5 points, merely 1 point). - Each 3 point shot made is worth 1.5 points. - 3 pointers are completely factored in to this shot made/missed differential statistical analysis. In fact accurate 3 point shooters have an advantage with this statistic.

SM/MD (shot made/miss differential): Regular season - Michael Jordan +137.5, Kobe Bryant -1,237 Michael Jordan's SM/MD is 1,374.5 points higher, which is a mountain of a difference. That's like comparing the grand canyon to a crack in a sidewalk.

NBA Playoff runs under 50% shooting: Kobe: 14 (every year) MJ: 8

NBA Playoff runs over 50% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 0 (never) Michael Jordan: 5

NBA Playoff runs under 48% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 13 Michael Jordan: 6

NBA Playoff runs over 48% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 1 Michael Jordan: 7

NBA Playoff runs under 46% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 10 Michael Jordan: 3

NBA Playoff runs under 44% shooting: Kobe Bryant: 6 Michael Jordan: 2

NBA Playoff runs over 30ppg: Kobe Bryant: 4 Michael Jordan: 12

NBA Playoff runs over 32ppg: Kobe Bryant: 2 Michael Jordan: 8

NBA Playoff runs over 34ppg: Kobe Bryant: 0 (never) Michael Jordan: 7

NBA Finals averages for their careers: Michael Jordan 33.6ppg 6.0reb 5.9ast 48.0%fg 36.8%3pt Kobe Bryant 25.3ppg 5.7reb 5.0ast 41.2%fg 31.3%3pt Pau Gasol 17.3ppg 10.4reb 3.2ast 1.7blk 52.8%fg Scottie Pippen 18.9ppg 8.3reb 5.9ast 40.9%fg 25.9%3pt Shaq (as a Laker) 33.6ppg 14.1reb 3.0ast 2.4blk 60.2%fg Kobe (with Shaq) 22.1ppg 5.2reb 4.6ast, 1.0blk 41.6%fg "[Bryant] told Jackson that O'Neal's presence on the team would affect his decision to stay with the Lakers, adding, "I'm tired of being a [sidekick]," Let's never forget that Kobe Bryant RAN SHAQ OUT OF L.A. Don't let the post freeze out get lost in the shuffle of media propaganda and Kobe's lies.

Kobe has been out performed by teammates in 5 out of his 7 NBA Finals appearances, Michael Jordan was never out performed by a teammate. Michael Jordan never had a teammate average over 20.0ppg in any NBA Finals who shot a higher percentage than him, Kobe's had a teammate do this 4 times (Gasol doesn't get enough shot attempts or it would be 7 times).

Michael Jordan consistently raised his team's level of play, while Kobe Bryant hinders his team's level of play by consistently missing so many shots. Michael Jordan carried his team consistently, and on the flip side Kobe Bryant's team carries him consistently.

When Kobe Bryant's team faulters, and he isn't able to raise their level of play as a leader, you see Kobe Bryant's team do things like get swept by the Mavericks in the 2011 Playoffs and lose the elimination game by 36 points.

Record as team leader Michael Air Jordan: 640-290 (.688) Kobe Bean Bryant: 357-249 (.589)

Postseason as team leader: Michael Air Jordan: Missed postseason 0 times in 13 seasons Kobe Bryant: Missed postseason 1 time in 7 seasons

Michael Jordan's teams were never eliminated after full seasons from Jordan when he had a championship caliber team around him, Kobe Bryant's teams have lost twice in the playoffs with him as the leader and he had championship caliber teammates.

NBA Finals Most Valuable Player awards: Michael Jordan: 6 in 6 tries Kobe Bryant: 2 in 7 tries

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with 12 or more a.ssists: Michael Air Jordan: 32 Kobe Bryant: 21

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with 10 or more a.ssists: Michael Air Jordan: 87 Kobe Bean Bryant: 79

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with 5 or more a.ssists: Michael Air Jordan: 663 Kobe Bean Bryant: 634

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with less than 3 a.ssists: Michael Air Jordan: 179 Kobe Bryant: 281

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with less than 2 a.ssists: Michael Air Jordan: 61 Kobe Bryant: 148

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with 0 a.ssists: Michael Air Jordan: 7 Kobe Bryant: 59

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with at least 15 rebounds: Michael Air Jordan: 10 Kobe Bryant: 5

Regular season & Playoffs combined Games with at least 12 rebounds: Michael Air Jordan: 66 Kobe Bryant: 30

Percentage of points scored on free throws: Michael Air Jordan: 22.9% Kobe Bryant: 25.2%

Record in games with 30+ shot attempts: Michael Air Jordan: 72-57 (.558) Kobe Bean Bryant: 48-63 (.432) Michael Jordan shot his team to wins, Kobe Bryant shoots his team out of wins.

Seasons with at least 200 steals: Michael Air Jordan: 6 Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with at least 150 steals: Michael Air Jordan: 9 Kobe Bryant: 2

Seasons with at least 100 blocks: Michael Air Jordan: 2 Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with at least 75 blocks: Michael Air Jordan: 4 Kobe Bryant: 0

Defensive Player of the Year awards Michael Jordan: 1 Kobe Bryant: 0

Michael averaged 35 points per game when he won defensive player of the year. The next closest scorer to win it had 27 ppg. Guards rarely receive Defensive Player of the Year. Think about the level of energy it takes to lead the league in scoring, and be the league's best defender.

Olympic Gold Medals Michael Jordan: 2 Kobe Bryant: 1

Michael Jordan is one of three players to win an Olympic gold as both an amateur (1984) and professional (1992). The other players are Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin, who did it with him.

All Star Game: Jordan’s 40 points in 1988 is still the second most points in an All-Star Game behind Wilt Chamberlain’s 42. Jordan also recorded the only All-Star Game triple double in NBA history in 1997, LeBron later repeated this feat in 2011.

Kobe Bryant has 4 all-star MVP awards, tied for the all time record.

Steals titles Michael Jordan: 3 Kobe Bryant: 0

Jordan was the first player in NBA history to lead the league in both scoring and steals. He achieved this feat three times. The only other player to do it is Allen Iverson.

Jordan was the first player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season. He performed this feat in back-to-back seasons, making him the only player to achieve it multiple times. Hakeem Olajuwon and Scottie Pippen later achieved 200 steals and 100 blocks in one season.

Jordan is the fourth player in NBA history to win a scoring title and an NBA championship in the same season, which he did all six times.

In 1996, Jordan became the second player in NBA history to sweep the MVP awards (regular season, NBA Finals, All-Star Game) after Willis Reed. He would sweep them again in 1998, making him the only player to do it multiple times.

Michael Jordan led the Chicago Bulls to the best regular season and combined regular season and postseason records in NBA history.

Michael Jordan scored in double digits in all but one game as a Chicago Bull out of 1,109 total games.

Michael Jordan game winning shot attempts was 33 out of 58, which is a 56.9% shooting percentage, while Kobe has attempted more game winners, according to the facts, Kobe is a 27% career shooter in game winning situations.

Michael Jordan has the most known game winning shots of any player in NBA history. He has by far the highest conversion rate in the clutch.

Kobe Bryant is not among the top 100 players all time in a.ssists per game. Michael Jordan is. He’s #82 in a.ssists per game and #36 in a.ssists.

Michael Jordan is #3 all time in rebounding by a guard (behind Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson).

Michael Jordan is #3 all time in steals per game, Kobe is #36 all time in steals per game. Michael Jordan is #2 all time in total steals, Kobe Bryant is #18 all time in total steals.

Michael Jordan is #1 all time in blocks by a guard. Kobe Bryant isn't even in the top 10 all time blocks by a guard.

Kobe Bryant is not among the top 10 players all time in points per game. Michael Jordan is #1 all time in points per game and #3 in points.

In the 2011 NBA Playoffs, Kobe Bryant had a 91+ million dollar roster with his Lakers, Kobe Bryant's Lakers were swept by the Dallas Mavericks and blown out in game 4 by 36 points.

Rest a.ssured that under today's rules for perimeter players, with the supporting cast that Kobe has, Michael Jordan would have led the Lakers past Dallas and there wouldn't have been any 36 point blowout games.
 6 years ago '09        #91
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
space
avatar space
space
$66,404 | Props total: 12338 12338
 01seay said:


Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant

Shaq > Kobe Bryant
n*gga, aint you heard!!! This is BX, big men cant be looked at as better than guards. I have the thread to prove it
 6 years ago '05        #92
AirForce318 
space
avatar space
space
$12,400 | Props total: 674 674
 shadychef04 said:
Brian Scalabrine > Kobe and MJ


[pic - click to view]

No Tommy Sheppard - GOAT



[pic - click to view]

 6 years ago '09        #93
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
space
avatar space
space
$66,404 | Props total: 12338 12338
 WCIB said:
i'm sure it'll mean a lot to know it took 17 years to do what mj did in like 11-12 years...
Another idiot
 6 years ago '06        #94
philly337 20 heat pts20
space
avatar space
space
$28,945 | Props total: 10597 10597
And before I go to bed just to throw that bullsh*t out about the rule change in 01 almost every top player who wasn't old had their scoring not only stay the same but increase with the rule change...

Iverson,allen,Kidd, pierce,garnett,shaq,webber,duncan,rose,mashburn,ma rbury...list just keeps going


Last edited by philly337; 07-24-2011 at 10:40 PM..
 6 years ago '09        #95
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
space
avatar space
space
$66,404 | Props total: 12338 12338
 newroadsfinest said:
But what youre saying is since Kobe got the early jump he should have been passed Jordan// since he was better equipped huh? dude not the best player in his era.. hes the best ball hog...
No, what I was saying had to do with what I responded to not what you wanna decide to twist it into. If you couldnt understand that I'll break it down just for you again. I only mentioned him coming out of high school to explain why he will have played more games than Jordan and how the different eras afforded different opportunities to players. Kobe's era allowed guys to come straight from high school, Jordan's didnt.
 atl12o13 said:
Minus Shaq,Jordan teamed with Kukoc and Pippen is a better second and third than anything Kobe has had...Ill take Pippen over Gasol twice on any day,and Kukoc and LO are actually alot alike offensively...I will give you the high school thing,but you cant use when he came to the league as a point in his favor...Kobe was the first guard really ever to come out of high school....him and TMAC are really the only really successful ones in my mind too,but thats another subject.
I was all ready to come shred this statement until I saw you were a Bulls fan so its clearly biased which wont allow you to see any truths in a debate.















Once again, I'm not comparing the two or saying one is better than the other because I dont believe there is a right answer due to many factors. What I am doing is making a case for them both being really good players in the time they played the game and you all should too. Its a shame every thread gets turned into that when they never start out being that.
 07-24-2011, 10:44 PM         #96
Willye 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
You people dont get it let me school you

Kobe plays in the modern defensive era of traps, doubles, and zone defenses. From the year 2001, the NBA effectively legalized zone defensive, thus discouraging 1-on-1 play. Compare this to Michael Jordan's weaker era, where had to luxury of playing "iso" all game long. Kobe cannot even post up without getting doubled.

Many people think zone's are weak defenses, that is because so many teams don't play it properly. While they may be weak against great passing teams with shooters, if played properly, zone defenses are great against dominant individuals (Kobe, Garnett, etc) that have a weak supporting cast. The whole world plays zone. Even in College basketball, the "purest" form of basketball, the teams play almost entirely zone defense. Around the world, other countries use zone all the time. And if you want to see its effectiveness, just look at the 2006 summer games.

Furthermore today's NBA is far more competitive. Not only does Kobe have to deal with zone, he goes up against taller, bigger and stronger defenders than Jordan ever did. Back in the 1980's most of the shooting guards Jordan played against were 6''2 to 6''4. Kobe can shoot over shorter players like that with unbelievable efficiency, yet he plays against players that are 6''5 to 6''9. In the 80s, outside of a few good teams (Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Knicks) there was really not that much competition. Today, even the worst teams in the league (i.e bobcats, hawks) are good and can hold their own with any team they face.

Sure, the 80's was a more physical brand of basketball. But physicality, does not translate into effectiveness. If you ask any great scorer which is harder: 1) Playing with double and triple teams or 2) Having to deal with stiff-arms and armbars, they would chose the former. And furthermore, you think Kobe doesn't face armbars/stiff-arms? How can you guard Kobe without using your hands? It is impossible. With the rules the way they are, Kobe should be getting two free throws on almost every trip down.
 07-24-2011, 10:52 PM         #97
Willye 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
Michael jordans career highest point total was 69 in overtime while Kobes was 81 in 4 quarters. but many of you might not know that kobe also scored 56 in 3 quarters AND 62 in 3 quarter a few years later.

In other words michael jordan scored 69 in 53 min while kobe scored 62 in 36 min. not to mention the 81 points in 48 min.

Next

Kobe also has more range than jordan when it comes to shooting and even though kobe shot a lower percentage from the floor you can explain that by the weak defenses of the late 80s and 90s compared to the 2000's where the Pistons allowed a low 84 ppg in 2004 in the 80 no team ever averaged less that 100.

Lastly

defense in the 80s was more physical but allowed more points

Go to basketballreference.com and look at ofensive stats from the 80s and 90s then today, huge difference. so this means defense was more lax then. and that means defense is more tough now so its harder to score yet kobe still has done amazing things! case closed

1 more thing

Jordan played in a league that had expansion teams just coming in and the talent level was low so he could score 50 easy those nights. Kobe the past 5 years has played in a conference where this year your team had to win 50 games just to make the playoffs. When you play those teams 3 or 4 times each and they're pretty good defenses then Kobe is the better scorer
 6 years ago '06        #98
philly337 20 heat pts20
space
avatar space
space
$28,945 | Props total: 10597 10597
 Willye said:
You people dont get it let me school you

Kobe plays in the modern defensive era of traps, doubles, and zone defenses. From the year 2001, the NBA effectively legalized zone defensive, thus discouraging 1-on-1 play. Compare this to Michael Jordan's weaker era, where had to luxury of playing "iso" all game long. Kobe cannot even post up without getting doubled.

Many people think zone's are weak defenses, that is because so many teams don't play it properly. While they may be weak against great passing teams with shooters, if played properly, zone defenses are great against dominant individuals (Kobe, Garnett, etc) that have a weak supporting cast. The whole world plays zone. Even in College basketball, the "purest" form of basketball, the teams play almost entirely zone defense. Around the world, other countries use zone all the time. And if you want to see its effectiveness, just look at the 2006 summer games.

Furthermore today's NBA is far more competitive. Not only does Kobe have to deal with zone, he goes up against taller, bigger and stronger defenders than Jordan ever did. Back in the 1980's most of the shooting guards Jordan played against were 6''2 to 6''4. Kobe can shoot over shorter players like that with unbelievable efficiency, yet he plays against players that are 6''5 to 6''9. In the 80s, outside of a few good teams (Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Knicks) there was really not that much competition. Today, even the worst teams in the league (i.e bobcats, hawks) are good and can hold their own with any team they face.

Sure, the 80's was a more physical brand of basketball. But physicality, does not translate into effectiveness. If you ask any great scorer which is harder: 1) Playing with double and triple teams or 2) Having to deal with stiff-arms and armbars, they would chose the former. And furthermore, you think Kobe doesn't face armbars/stiff-arms? How can you guard Kobe without using your hands? It is impossible. With the rules the way they are, Kobe should be getting two free throws on almost every trip down.
son seriously are u fu*king retarded? Did u not read my posts?

1. U obviously dont know what hand checking is (i understand ur too young)

2. Already posted but jordan played in early 00's with these rules a a broken down old man and was still putting up 20+...he would have demolished had he been in his prime

3. The rule change did not slow anybodies scoring individually lol....if the rule change was so much harder u would see numbers go down not up or stay the same. When the rule change went into effect guys who were already in the league were not fu*king effected...

4. Again..nobody runs zone
 07-24-2011, 10:55 PM         #99
Willye 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
Im done people just cant face that bean is a better scorer and never watched the game i the 80's and 90's and now teams were putting up 115-120 avg not just one team mulitiple teams the era of showtime
 6 years ago '09        #100
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
space
avatar space
space
$66,404 | Props total: 12338 12338
 Willye said:
Michael jordans career highest point total was 69 in overtime while Kobes was 81 in 4 quarters. but many of you might not know that kobe also scored 56 in 3 quarters AND 62 in 3 quarter a few years later.

In other words michael jordan scored 69 in 53 min while kobe scored 62 in 36 min. not to mention the 81 points in 48 min.

Next

Kobe also has more range than jordan when it comes to shooting and even though kobe shot a lower percentage from the floor you can explain that by the weak defenses of the late 80s and 90s compared to the 2000's where the Pistons allowed a low 84 ppg in 2004 in the 80 no team ever averaged less that 100.

Lastly

defense in the 80s was more physical but allowed more points

Go to basketballreference.com and look at ofensive stats from the 80s and 90s then today, huge difference. so this means defense was more lax then. and that means defense is more tough now so its harder to score yet kobe still has done amazing things! case closed

1 more thing

Jordan played in a league that had expansion teams just coming in and the talent level was low so he could score 50 easy those nights. Kobe the past 5 years has played in a conference where this year your team had to win 50 games just to make the playoffs. When you play those teams 3 or 4 times each and they're pretty good defenses then Kobe is the better scorer
I know you love Kobe and all but this isnt a Kobe vs Mike thing here. Stop with the comparisons. Or at least if you're gonna argue for Kobe make better arguments and use more correct facts.
Home      
  
 

 






most viewed right now
 18
Image(s) inside olliejayy (those pierced nipples...)
49 comments
1 day ago
@thotsdimesetc
most viewed right now
 13
Article inside ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Early Buzz: A Surprising, Funny and Jaw-Dr..
41 comments
1 day ago
@movies
most viewed right now
 13
Video inside He just burned the soul of a lazy teacher
105 comments
1 day ago
@wild'ish
most viewed right now
 6
Image(s) inside 'The Walking Dead' Fans Are Flipping Out That AMC Is Promoting Sunday'..
75 comments
1 day ago
@movies
most viewed right now
 5
audio inside HOV IS Back!: Jay-Z - Motorsport Freestyle!!! FIREEEEEEE
131 comments
1 day ago
@hiphop
most viewed right now
 5
Article inside How Apple has won (and kept) my business
66 comments
1 day ago
@tech
most viewed right now
 4
audio inside Quavo & Nicki Minaj “She For Keeps”
19 comments
2 days ago
@hiphop
most viewed right now
 3
Sony drops the price of PSVR bundles by $100 for the holidays
25 comments
1 day ago
@games
back to top
register contact Follow BX @ Twitter Follow BX @ Facebook search BX privacy