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Main Card Winners?
Dominick Cruz 10 40.00%
Urijah Faber 14 56.00%
Chris Leben 7 28.00%
Wanderlei Silva 15 60.00%
Tito Ortiz 1 4.00%
Ryan Bader 22 88.00%
Carlos Condit 9 36.00%
Dong Hyun Kim 12 48.00%
Denis Siver 16 64.00%
Mat Wiman 5 20.00%
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 6 years ago '10        #521
rek0nize 66 heat pts66
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 Russ369 said:
oh yea he had a Draw against Mousasi... still... dude was crazy with his ape technique
It was an interesting style to say the least.
 6 years ago '05        #522
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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Kendall Grove used Tito's celebration because he trained with Team Punishment for awhile after TUF finished...a respect thing i suppose...

but i think Grove uses some sort of double-fisted hammer strikes while knee-raised celebration now...
 6 years ago '05        #523
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 44Caliber said:

Melvin has the talent to be a LW champ but he is like 3 f!ghts out from a title shot. and once Gilbert makes his way to the UFC he will lock up the LW belt for a while.
I 4got about Gilly


Damn that division is deep
 6 years ago '05        #524
Ari Gold 315 heat pts315
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quit acting like you bi*ches didn't see me ask fr the tito and faber f!ght....MESSAGE ME!
 6 years ago '05        #525
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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 itzjmoney510 said:
quit acting like you bi*ches didn't see me ask fr the tito and faber f!ght....MESSAGE ME!
 6 years ago '06        #526
StillFree28 27 heat pts27
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 itzjmoney510 said:
quit acting like you bi*ches didn't see me ask fr the tito and faber f!ght....MESSAGE ME!
 6 years ago '05        #527
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melvin guillard does not have the ground game to ever win a title...striking wise he can hang with anyone in the division....but get real....grey maynard or frankie edgar would grapple the sh*t outta him....but im rooting for melvin
 6 years ago '10        #528
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 MumblesDaHumble said:
49-46
Only to rookie scoring Judges.

48-47 was the score.

Love it and embrace it.
 6 years ago '04        #529
thehawk33 2 heat pts
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50-47.

Rounds 1 and 4 were 10-10. Cruz won the rest.

But cats really think Guillard is world champ material? Reactionary online MMA fanbase ftw...
 6 years ago '10        #530
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 thehawk33 said:
50-47.

Rounds 1 and 4 were 10-10. Cruz won the rest.

But cats really think Guillard is world champ material? Reactionary online MMA fanbase ftw...

50-47?? that can't happen

You aren't ever going to see a 10-10 round called by a judge, just like you wont ever see a 10-7 called. 99.99999999999999 percent of the time somebody will win each round. You can see some 9-9 due to a point being took away from the winner of the round, but thats about as far as that goes.
 6 years ago '06        #531
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 rek0nize said:
50-47?? that can't happen

You aren't ever going to see a 10-10 round called by a judge, just like you wont ever see a 10-7 called. 99.99999999999999 percent of the time somebody will win each round. You can see some 9-9 due to a point being took away from the winner of the round, but thats about as far as that goes.
actually that's not true, there have been 10-10 rounds this year and last year. I believe there was a 10-7 round last year as well.
 6 years ago '10        #533
stv18 22 heat pts22
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Wow, Tito is the man so happy he won. My buddy kept talking about how bad he was and getting cut and is in love with Wandy. Now look who is getting cut haha. I still think Wiman won that f!ght Siver sucks they better not give him Guillard.
 6 years ago '04        #534
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 rek0nize said:
50-47?? that can't happen

You aren't ever going to see a 10-10 round called by a judge, just like you wont ever see a 10-7 called. 99.99999999999999 percent of the time somebody will win each round. You can see some 9-9 due to a point being took away from the winner of the round, but thats about as far as that goes.
1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants appear to be f!ghting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round

Per the unified rules of mma.

It was difficult to find a clear dominant winner in either rounds 1 or 4 in my opinion, and just because MMA judges fail to use 10-10 rounds or are opposed to them doesn't mean that they shouldn't be used in situations such as this.


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 6 years ago '05        #535
44Caliber 18 heat pts18
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 trb_5 said:
melvin guillard does not have the ground game to ever win a title...striking wise he can hang with anyone in the division....but get real....grey maynard or frankie edgar would grapple the sh*t outta him....but im rooting for melvin
i disagree, Greg Jackson, as much as i dislike him, has improved Melvins TDD tremendously. Melvins talent is off the board that has never been his problem.

Gray could prolly beat Melvin by lay and pray but i actually think Melvin could beat Frankie.

 thehawk33 said:
50-47.

Rounds 1 and 4 were 10-10. Cruz won the rest.

But cats really think Guillard is world champ material? Reactionary online MMA fanbase ftw...

talent wise he is world champ material but he is a few f!ghts out from a shot so....

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 6 years ago '07        #536
Jersey732 6 heat pts
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glad nobody on here is a judge
 6 years ago '11        #537
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 Yung Dilla said:

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wow that should be a Mortal kombat finishing move
 6 years ago '10        #538
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 billieskeet said:
actually that's not true, there have been 10-10 rounds this year and last year. I believe there was a 10-7 round last year as well.
If you would notice thats why i said 99.999999. Judges are frowned upon who score rounds 10-10 by the commission which is why they almost never do it. It shows their lack of being able to score a round properly

A 10-7 round only occurs when you get beat badly for a whole round and do something to get a point took away, not really a big deal at all.
 6 years ago '10        #539
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 thehawk33 said:
1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants appear to be f!ghting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round

Per the unified rules of mma.

It was difficult to find a clear dominant winner in either rounds 1 or 4 in my opinion, and just because MMA judges fail to use 10-10 rounds or are opposed to them doesn't mean that they shouldn't be used in situations such as this.
It just shows the inability to score a f!ght properly, that's why its looked down upon by the athletic commission.

Somebody always wins the round, even if its by a hair.

You dont need to show pure dominance for a round to win the round.
 6 years ago '04        #540
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 rek0nize said:
It just shows the inability to score a f!ght properly, that's why its looked down upon by the athletic commission.
How is it the inability to score a f!ght correctly? The judging criteria used by the UFC if there is no clear winner to a round, then it should be scored 10-10. It's not inability to score a f!ght correctly, in fact quite the opposite. It's knowing the rules. And the athletic commission looking down upon people for scoring f!ghts 10-10, yet continuously giving Dave Hagen and Nelson Hamilton multiple opportunities to judge f!ghts despite his sh*tty track record shows their ineptitude.
Somebody always wins the round, even if its by a hair.
Not true. See the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts. Y'know... the rules the judges are supposed to follow...

You dont need to show pure dominance for a round to win the round.
Nowhere does the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts say anything about "pure domination" for a 10-9 round. But there should be a clear winner in order to score it 10-9. If not, the round should be scored 10-10.
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