Billups wants Knicks to build team not collect stars

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 7 years ago '10        #21
SmoothTay 23 heat pts23
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:nasmad:Shut the fu*k up billups

Cp3 or nothing :nasmad:
 7 years ago '05        #22
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 refuze said:
I agree with Billup's a.ssessment. The Knicks certainly could be a dominant team in the East if they find the right pieces to fit their current roster. What I'm saying is that if the Knicks find away to get Chris Paul, then they should go for it. I can see Paul in a Knicks uniform for 5-10 years while Billups only 1-2 so for a long-term investment, that would be a wiser choice.
he'd be a good long term investment but as for rounding out the team with stat, melo and paul with role players is going to be tough. it may get you to the finals.....but then there is winning once you get there.




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 7 years ago '10        #23
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Need to collect a defense first.

Bulls need to collect offense
 7 years ago '10        #24
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aka we need defenders cause our stars won't do it
 7 years ago '05        #25
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Billups is smart
 06-30-2011, 02:56 PM         #26
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Easier to do than build a championship caliber defense with Mike D'Antoni as your coach and your two best players being historically bad at it.


with your line up.....no its not...
 7 years ago '10        #27
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I agree 100%.All we need is pieces and a defensive a.ssistent/coach.
 7 years ago '08        #28
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Hes right but Knicks fans are dumb tho. Melo and Amare play half a.ssed defense. Only reason Miami was even as good as they are is because Wade and Bron are arguably the best defenders at there position. Knicks trading for CP isn't even gonna make there defense any better and they wont have any cap room to sign a defensive specialist or real pieces.
 7 years ago '10        #29
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 HotepSuns said:
with your line up.....no its not...

Keith Bogans
 7 years ago '04        #30
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The Knicks need a starting C and depth at almost every position. Sign some decent role players and they could come up.
 7 years ago '10        #31
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 Andre3stacks said:
Hes right but Knicks fans are dumb tho. Melo and Amare play half a.ssed defense. Only reason Miami was even as good as they are is because Wade and Bron are arguably the best defenders at there position. Knicks trading for CP isn't even gonna make there defense any better and they wont have any cap room to sign a defensive specialist or real pieces.
Best defensive pg in the league won't help ??? the Knicks biggest problem on defense is pg penetration my dude.
 06-30-2011, 03:07 PM         #32
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Chauncey is right. You don't NEED nothing but stars to win. It does help though.
 7 years ago '10        #33
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Chauncey hasn't been good defensively since that year he was traded to the Nuggets. He's too slow to keep up with these quick point guards now. At least Felton could play passing lanes and keep up with them.
I agree with you. I was talking about Chris Paul
 06-30-2011, 03:20 PM         #34
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
I don't see what's bad about our lineup

We played without a respectable 2 guard, if we solve that and get healthy in the frontcourt we're pretty much set from there.

Knicks on the other hand basically have to pray for two awful defenders and a awful defensive coach to wake up. Oh...and the rest of the team too. Good luck with that.


nothing defensively...but offensively you are horrific...you weren't good in the reg season offensively,and in the playoffs your ppg dipped almost down below 90...and there isn't a 2 guard out there right now that you can get that's gonna change that....

so like i said hardly easier.....if anything the playoffs should have highlighted this to you.
 7 years ago '07        #35
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 Andre3stacks said:
Hes right but Knicks fans are dumb tho. Melo and Amare play half a.ssed defense. Only reason Miami was even as good as they are is because Wade and Bron are arguably the best defenders at there position. Knicks trading for CP isn't even gonna make there defense any better and they wont have any cap room to sign a defensive specialist or real pieces.
fu*k outta here..you're a wizard fans...how dare a fan of team that has Andray Blatche come and try and sh*t on our defense....Wade is not the best defensive sg and Bron showed everyone that hes not the best defensive sf...Shawn Marion and Tony Allen are
 06-30-2011, 03:26 PM         #36
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Weird coming from a guy that will only be there for 1 more year
 7 years ago '10        #37
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 KnicksLost said:
fu*k outta here..you're a wizard fans...how dare a fan of team that has Andray Blatche come and try and sh*t on our defense....Wade is not the best defensive sg and Bron showed everyone that hes not the best defensive sf...Shawn Marion and Tony Allen are
 7 years ago '05        #38
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Of course he does.... if they go the star route it means he's out of the picture. Duh.
 06-30-2011, 03:37 PM         #39
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Consider this:

-Keith Bogans started 82 games at SG.
-Boozer played 58 games.
-Noah played like 35 games, but showed signs of improving his offense when he was healthy.

So more times than not, we were in games because of Rose just beasting and our defense. So it's really not a surprise we weren't good offensively.

On the other hand, there are two guards out there that can help. J.R. Smith is one. Arron Afflalo is another. Jason Richardson is another. Jamal Crawford is another. I can keep going. The only catch is that we would have to convince one to take the MLE (if it's still in the new CBA). If you add one of those guys, and we're not as injured up front, then our offense will get a lot better.

For yall defensively, it's basically going to take a complete 180.



Paul's not the best defensive PG in the NBA.


good luck with that task....all these dudes are pretty much in their primes right now...


we have roster positions wide open that need to be filled....we can hire a defensive a.ssistant coach (lawrence frank) and bring in athletic bodies to do the same thing your team did last year...it's really not an issue...


i always laugh when people point out amare,and melo on defense....because it's not about mare,and melo...it's about TEAM defense...because derrick rose is not a good defender at all...but he plays on a great TEAM defense...and mare,and melo both are good enough on defense to where they would look good on a great TEAM defensively...


so i don't see how it's some big mountain to hurdle...
 06-30-2011, 03:41 PM         #40
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word, knicks got the stars already but they need to get focused about this championship and build a worthy team that can pass shoot and out defend other teams.....
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