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 6 years ago '08        #1
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 Full Audio Interview Derek Fisher: “If they lock us out because we don’t agree to the most dramatic rollback in sports history…that’s [their] choice.”


Fisher joined Stephen A. Smith to talk about what was discussed and accomplished during Tuesday’s three hour negotiation sessions, how the reports that significant progress have been made aren’t quite accurate, how the players feel there’s still so much distance to be bridged in the talks because of how outrageous the owners’ initial demands and proposal were.



On what happened during the three hour CBA meeting that occurred on Tuesday and reports of there being progress being made are in fact true:

“Well, we’re hearing there’s some reports out there that there’s been significant progress

made on things that the NBA and our owners are proposing to us, but in reality, there hasn’t

been much substantial movement at all on a lot of key areas. So we’re still focused on

getting a deal done, we’re going to continue to negotiate, and we’re going to meet again on

Friday. But even with some of the things that are being released about what has been

dropped out in proposals, there isn’t any agreement on anything at this point. We’re still

working hard on that right now.”


How he would explain the differences between a hard cap (what the NBA wants) and a soft cap (the status quo that the players want to retain):

“Essentially the soft salary cap system that we have in place now has been in place for

some 30, 40 years. It’s been a part of NBA basketball, the history of our game. All of the

great players that have helped build what we have today played under this system. And

what they’re asking us to do is move away from that system and move to hard salary cap

system, which essentially means that if a team was allotted a certain amount of money to

spend on their players’ salaries, under just about no circumstance could they spend above

that. So for example, if you took the Miami Heat roster, and you set a salary cap at $60

million dollars, and you paid LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh their respective

contracts, that would equal approximately $51 million of that $60 million; and that would

leave approximately $9 million dollars to sign the entire rest of the team, which therefore we

believe essentially would lead to the elimination of fully guaranteed contracts. The rest of

NBA players outside of two maybe three stars on a team, would receive partial or no

guarantees at all. And you’d essentially see a musical chairs of rosters for the rest of the

NBA as we know it. So today we tried to make some movement and progress away from

that. We’ve expressed that a hard salary cap is a non-starter, we have no interest in that.

We’ve tried to express that some of the losses that they’re experiencing. So we made a big

move we feel. We talked about moving back $100 million dollars towards the owners each

year over the course of a five-year deal, which would put another $500 million dollars back

on their side of the ledger, so we feel like half of a billion dollars over the course of five

years to give back to owners to help them address some of the things they’re going through

was a good move to make right now. But we didn’t receive that type of response.”

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 6 years ago '04        #2
nitetrain8601 22 heat pts22
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That is bullsh*t. There needs to he a hard cap
 6 years ago '08        #3
Dee Grande 1269 heat pts1269
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 nitetrain8601 said:
There needs to he a hard cap
why??
 6 years ago '10        #4
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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fish spittin that real sh*t
 6 years ago '09        #5
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 nitetrain8601 said:
That is bullsh*t. There needs to he a hard cap
i agree

i think they should keep guaranteed contracts tho
 6 years ago '07        #6
Bkjj11 3547 heat pts3547
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D fish for prez
 6 years ago '10        #7
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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hard cap is bull sh*t
 6 years ago '09        #8
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 beast mode said:
hard cap is bull sh*t
why? i think it'll even the playing field a bit. you'll either see a team full of stars like the heat with no bench, or boston with a few decent guys around the core, etc. or you'll see a team full of not stars, but really great players and some situational/role players mixed in. i think it'll help with the parity a lot
 6 years ago '08        #9
Illuminati 192 heat pts192
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^ of course you'd say hat haha
 6 years ago '10        #10
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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tell them dumb fu*k gm's to stop over valuing players,then they wouldn't have this problem (see rashard lewis,arenas,tmac ect ect contracts)
 6 years ago '10        #11
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 beast mode said:
tell them dumb fu*k gm's to stop over valuing players,then they wouldn't have this problem (see rashard lewis,arenas,tmac ect ect contracts)
T-Mac wasn't over valued. He was just injury prone. You're acting like he wasn't top 5 in his prime.
 6 years ago '10        #12
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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 TriniSoldier said:
why? i think it'll even the playing field a bit. you'll either see a team full of stars like the heat with no bench, or boston with a few decent guys around the core, etc. or you'll see a team full of not stars, but really great players and some situational/role players mixed in. i think it'll help with the parity a lot
it's on the gm to stop over valuing players. you know what would really even the playing field???? is maybe these players start getting in the gym working on their game instead of owners bi*ching about money when it's their fault for not wanting to win and over paying players. whats next?? we gonna regulate how many minutes superstars can play???
 6 years ago '09        #13
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 Illuminati said:
^ of course you'd say hat haha


if your a heat/laker fan, obviously you dont want to see a hardcap. kobe takes up half the teams budget by himself, and then the heats 3 players will take up a good chunk of it as well. but if your a fan of one of the other 28 or so teams in the nba, then you love it.

coons
 6 years ago '04        #14
justinjones 307 heat pts307
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 Lamar Burton said:
T-Mac wasn't over valued. He was just injury prone. You're acting like he wasn't top 5 in his prime.
this,
the only one he named that was overvalue way too much was lewis. arenas was high too but at least he wasn't as bad before the injuries/gun situation

if you want to talk about bad contracts then that would be outlaw/curry
 6 years ago '09        #15
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 beast mode said:
it's on the gm to stop over valuing players. you know what would really even the playing field???? is maybe these players start getting in the gym working on their game instead of owners bi*ching about money when it's their fault for not wanting to win and over paying players. whats next?? we gonna regulate how many minutes superstars can play???
The game of the nba has always been top heavy. But, you really don't think it'd be a more interesting overall game in general if there was more parity?
 6 years ago '04        #16
ggfresh 15 heat pts15
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in all fairness lower market teams had their chances to shine toronto had theirs milwake had theirs they just have to spend over during that time period to put themselfs over
 6 years ago '10        #17
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 Lamar Burton said:
T-Mac wasn't over valued. He was just injury prone. You're acting like he wasn't top 5 in his prime.
tmac was great but for a player who couldn't get past the 1st round you don't throw a ton of money at him long term and put your self in a financial rock and hard place. look at korver,nene,sam dalembert,jerome james the list goes on and on and they're not even superstars
 6 years ago '08        #18
Illuminati 192 heat pts192
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 TriniSoldier said:


if your a heat/laker fan, obviously you dont want to see a hardcap. kobe takes up half the teams budget by himself, and then the heats 3 players will take up a good chunk of it as well. but if your a fan of one of the other 28 or so teams in the nba, then you love it.

coons
which is why all of boxden minus a few people are rejoicing.
 6 years ago '09        #19
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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 Curtisimo said:
It won't help with parity at all sh*t the knicks have been above the cap this past decade and haven't had success at all.

Leave it the way it is sh*t just because your team got stars don't mean their going to win (ie; Miami)

People just need to spend money better and stop overvaluing these players
I got one word for that situation tho. "Layden."
 6 years ago '10        #20
Lamar Burton 13 heat pts13
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 beast mode said:
tmac was great but for a player who couldn't get past the 1st round you don't throw a ton of money at him long term and put your self in a financial rock and hard place. look at korver,nene,sam dalembert,jerome james the list goes on and on and they're not even superstars

So he shouldn't get paid because he didn't get out of the first round? That sounds like a team issue. He played his a.ss off in the playoffs. By that logic, KG shouldn't have been paid either.
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