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 RAZAH CUTS said:
man.....these numbers are only gonna rise....and 16% is waaay too low...tehy say the real numbers are something like 30%....

it's daunting out here man, no matter what color, but it's extra tough if your a black or brown male who's 6 ft. or over and you look menacing...
I wouldn't doubt if that number's higher... I'll also account for the TOTAL unemployment of all races in this country. I wouldn't call it ~30% for the TOTAL population, it's more close to 25%. I think you were just referring to the black race when you said 30% though.

My doctor explained to me that when you hear about the unemployment rates, jobs that DON'T exist are accounted into the calculation, thus making the unemployment seem so low when you see those rates are shown on the news.

I agree that college is a great way to networking your a.ss off, while acquiring knowledge in a specific field. Problem is, not only are the arts are suffering, the sciences are as well, excluding the obvious professions that are here to stay (the medical field such as doctors, nurses, etc.).

A graduate engineering student I'm working under in this research project told me that when he got his mechanical engineering undergrad back in 2008, many of his friends, including himself, were receiving job offers near graduation, like it was nothing. Whereas now, the main majority of my engineering classmates are having a real trouble with even earning a relevant internship, myself included.

Someone said it though, depending on your skills, you can eventually find a job relevant to your specific skills if you relocate (the skills/knowledge obviously makes a difference). But in terms of finding a job altogether, it's definitely NOT difficult. Unless, of course, you live in a small a.ss town.
 6 years ago '10        #62
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 RAZAH CUTS said:
why does sh*t like this always devolve into a debate about black culture....

I thought we were looking at the stats here...the pure straight up stats.....and they're damning....

the United States should be held in contempt for how they treat minorities, specifically Latinos and African Americans....
yet asians find a way to succeed...
 6 years ago '05        #63
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How did this became a race debate off of looking at stats of black unemployment to where people r trying to compare the success rate or (degree of laziness) of other races to blacks... dumbsh*t

Not only r black people the second largest population in America and thats only cuz we've been here the longest cuz we were BROUGHT over here against our will. But that means we have no ties or connections to our origins over in Africa and never had a home to go back too if we had migrated here intentionally.

Asians and Other Nationalities have been MIGRATING on their own will with startup plans and money for hundreds of years and while we were still slaves the White Man was giving the Chinaman way more respect and opportunities while we were still treated like animals. Plus for most immigrants that come to America if they setup shop and it fails they just go back home or comeback and try again...we cant do that...were so disconnected that Africans come over here and act like they better than us and try not to be affiliated in whites eyes at all.

Asians r probably the second largest race that exploits black anyway... They realize that after slavery and being in america for years that blacks have developed a westernized view of beauty and appeal (of course after having it beaten into our brains that whites are better than us...literally beaten) so they create businesses based on this fact (nail salons and owning the billion of dollars industry of hair real and synthetic)

I love how muhfu*kahs act like racism doesnt exist because they see blacks with jobs so that means racism is over...nah that just means segregation is over...racism is still very much alive...America has never paid reparations for what theyve done to us and people try to make the excuse of (so im suppose to pay you for something your ancestors did)...yes idiot ....because you never did the sh*t when u had the chance... if something was owed to your great great grandfather say a piece of land, i bet your whiteass would sue like crazy to get whats owed to your family...but we're told to just let it go.

But anyway if we're looking at unemployment statistics in an economy thats fu*ked right now then why r people tryin to claim its due to laziness and other stereotypical features of black people like wanting to live off welfare and staying at home on the couch with a fatgirlfriend and all the other stupidass RACIST sh*t u idiots are saying?
 6 years ago '10        #64
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 IMChillin730 said:
I love how muhfu*kahs act like racism doesnt exist because they see blacks with jobs so that means racism is over...nah that just means segregation is over...racism is still very much alive...America has never paid reparations for what theyve done to us and people try to make the excuse of (so im suppose to pay you for something your ancestors did)...yes idiot ....because you never did the sh*t when u had the chance... if something was owed to your great great grandfather say a piece of land, i bet your whiteass would sue like crazy to get whats owed to your family...but we're told to just let it go.

But anyway if we're looking at unemployment statistics in an economy thats fu*ked right now then why r people tryin to claim its due to laziness and other stereotypical features of black people like wanting to live off welfare and staying at home on the couch with a fatgirlfriend and all the other stupidass RACIST sh*t u idiots are saying?

We have to get over this "reparations are owed to us" attitude, yes this nation was built off the back of black people, but it was also built off the backs of italians, chinese, indians and others. In 2011, we as black people need to realize that there is a certain dempgraphic of our people that are not productive workers. These are our homeboys who we get jobs and they quit after 3 days because they dont like the way "the manager talks to them", these are the same people who walk into mcdonalds and flip registers over and curse out people because they feel "disrespected". That has nothing to do with reparations, that is a cultural problem we have we overlook. We need to get real, I deal with people all the time that feel they are "owed" a decent job despite having no education, no skills, and no job experience. If you own a pair of Jordans but you don't have a suit to wear to an interview, then guess what you don't deserve to be considered for that corporate job.

Racism does exist and that's why 3-4% of black people don't get hired. 10% of that number of people either have felonies, are uninspired to work, have a drug problem, are dependent upon a woman to take care of them while they play PS3 or don't present themselves to an employer to a viable candidate. You don't really see the workforce that's out there, I work in Human Resources its embarrassing to see how some of "black america" behaves and conducts themselves in a work environment. That number is about right. Those that are unemployed and are not black fall victim to the same issues. But what they don't realize is that a white man who walks into a company acting like "Jamal" is just as likely to not get a job.
 6 years ago '11        #65
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 IMChillin730 said:
How did this became a race debate off of looking at stats of black unemployment to where people r trying to compare the success rate or (degree of laziness) of other races to blacks... dumbsh*t

Not only r black people the second largest population in America and thats only cuz we've been here the longest cuz we were BROUGHT over here against our will. But that means we have no ties or connections to our origins over in Africa and never had a home to go back too if we had migrated here intentionally.

Asians and Other Nationalities have been MIGRATING on their own will with startup plans and money for hundreds of years and while we were still slaves the White Man was giving the Chinaman way more respect and opportunities while we were still treated like animals. Plus for most immigrants that come to America if they setup shop and it fails they just go back home or comeback and try again...we cant do that...were so disconnected that Africans come over here and act like they better than us and try not to be affiliated in whites eyes at all.

Asians r probably the second largest race that exploits black anyway... They realize that after slavery and being in america for years that blacks have developed a westernized view of beauty and appeal (of course after having it beaten into our brains that whites are better than us...literally beaten) so they create businesses based on this fact (nail salons and owning the billion of dollars industry of hair real and synthetic)

I love how muhfu*kahs act like racism doesnt exist because they see blacks with jobs so that means racism is over...nah that just means segregation is over...racism is still very much alive...America has never paid reparations for what theyve done to us and people try to make the excuse of (so im suppose to pay you for something your ancestors did)...yes idiot ....because you never did the sh*t when u had the chance... if something was owed to your great great grandfather say a piece of land, i bet your whiteass would sue like crazy to get whats owed to your family...but we're told to just let it go.

But anyway if we're looking at unemployment statistics in an economy thats fu*ked right now then why r people tryin to claim its due to laziness and other stereotypical features of black people like wanting to live off welfare and staying at home on the couch with a fatgirlfriend and all the other stupidass RACIST sh*t u idiots are saying?
We no longer the second largest, Latinos are
 6 years ago '09        #66
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 Opulence said:
I know the African American timeline, and frankly, it makes everything worse. Black people have been here for a long time, and have made very little progress.

Chinese, Indians, and other nationalities also lived in low income, poverty stricken, neighborhoods at the start, yet they didn't have heavy crack epidemics. No one forced black people to mess with crack, etc. Why black people are barking racism, everyone else is getting their bread. When are we going to actually do something? Now I see why the black people called Bouge, and Boule seperate themselves from the other black people. n*ggas have victimization issues (I'm not talking about you, just in general). The government or should I say the eminence grise group only capitalizes off of already inherent weaknesses. They do this will all nationalities though, not just negroes. That just means you have to be on your game..
All the other nationalities either a) didn't start off in this country and has their heritage traced to another country where the race as a whole is doing well i.e. Chinese or b) started in this country and fell from grace due to outside forces i.e. Native Americans.

The difference with African Americans is that at the start of their lineage they was oppressed in every sense of the word and even worse it hit them spiritually they didn't have nothing to go to after that, then they had to pick up their oppressors spirituality with hesitation. I wasn't born in the crack epidemic, but I know the history of it and I felt the effects of it indirectly, just to give you my idea of it the poverty level was high in the black community that already came from a hit with heroin (along with other races and cultures in America) then the CIA gave cocaine/crack to the people within the poor black communities, where all they wanted was a way to get out or to strive for better then the spot they was in they saw how lucrative it became and how fast the money came and then the sh*t hit the fan... Give you a sense I why racism is brought up alot, not saying I agree everytime its brought up just having a little empathy. We are doing something about it, whether you can see it or not there's always sunlight or peace after the storm. And why do n*ggas have victimization issues, bruh if you can see that sh*t is passed down like a heritage, sh*t I even think its passed down genetically man



 Opulence said:
Have you not peeped the black culture of today? n*ggas is all about being inferior. sh*t now is way worse than it ever was.
n*gga you only focusing on one little part, everybody in this country is hurting, matter fact this whole world's economy is going on life support, but people bounce back from sh*t like this, that's human nature bruh and black culture is not just the hood bruh its far more than that we still got the oldheads that help and talk to us youngins and actually listen rather than just talk sh*t, you still got folks out here IN the hood who would rather not shoot or f!ght it out but talk it out and are pacifists. Black culture isn't synonymous with violence and inferiority matter fact its the exact opposite if you look at it from a different angle
 6 years ago '05        #67
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 Blood Edge said:

we've gotta create our own jobs and businesses
 Blood Edge said:
I know I'm gonna get a lot of flack for this...but integration was the downfall of African American life post slavery

we owned everything in our neighborhoods...businesses, schools, homes, apartment buildings, land, etc because whites didn't want a part of it

This man is spitting the truth
 6 years ago '11        #68
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 Opulence said:
Like I said, indentured servant is a euphemism; unlike Blacks, white people are not proud of their history as slaves (and they hide it). Go read the book, They Where White and They Were Slaves. In fact, I could give you a whole host of books on the subject, this isn't just an opinion, I actually have research to back it up.

The Atlantic Slave Trade was based on economics, they didn't enslave black people out of spite, it was profitable. The little white man didn't go onto the shores of Africa and tackle big negroes, they made deals with Africans sovereigns.

Racism was created by social scientists so the dumb ignorant poor people (white and black) would be distracted by it. I mean, in general the white race was invented by social scientists. White is not a nationality, and the original "Puritans" and Anglo Saxons that settled here didn't much approve of other types of Europeans, they considered them savages, while they traded and paid tributes to the Moors of the Barbary Coast.

I think you might be the clueless one, you need to read more on this subject.
lol...so the social scientists created racism so they could distract poor people...not so they could run experiments like the Tuskegee Syphilis Study? I understand your argument on the timeline of racism, but to believe that as time went on, slavery was just an economic choice is silly. how do you explain the segregation and lack of rights which were formed from the beliefs of politicians and the voice of the majority people? and race in general, was created by social scientists, not just black and white...
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 Opulence said:
I know the African American timeline, and frankly, it makes everything worse. Black people have been here for a long time, and have made very little progress.

Chinese, Indians, and other nationalities also lived in low income, poverty stricken, neighborhoods at the start, yet they didn't have heavy crack epidemics. No one forced black people to mess with crack, etc. Why black people are barking racism, everyone else is getting their bread. When are we going to actually do something? Now I see why the black people called Bouge, and Boule seperate themselves from the other black people. n*ggas have victimization issues (I'm not talking about you, just in general). The government or should I say the eminence grise group only capitalizes off of already inherent weaknesses. They do this will all nationalities though, not just negroes. That just means you have to be on your game..



Have you not peeped the black culture of today? n*ggas is all about being inferior. sh*t now is way worse than it ever was.
Indians had reparation packages that they used to r*pe the white man through casinos...the Chinese didn't have their culture erased when they came here, and don't have a huge legacy of slavery AND segregation in America. I'm not saying black people haven't been given the opportunities, the "lean on me" mentality the culture has taken on is k!lling us. Now the few educated, well-spoken black men that are willing to speak on black culture keep feeding the people that we should work together...working together isn't going to get you nowhere in capitalism, you keep that sh*t within your immediate family and push for them, but n*ggas need to stop trying to lean on the next man, and instead, get above the next man so they can step over them. the cycle continues and now you have 2 black men f!ghting for the top instead of one black man carrying the other halfway there.
 6 years ago '05        #70
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if you ain't black then your opinion doesn't matter cause you obviously got a stigma against blacks already from what you see and not what your know... these same opinions bout blacks are carried and thought about when blacks go to find jobs and you wonder why blacks can get jobs..... Whos hiring all these illegal immigrants whites folks of course then when they start taking whites folks jobs its a problem.....

BX stay with the most prejudice hip hops heads ive ever seen... they hate on blacks soo much but love they music and co/sign any white rapper no matter how wack they is....
 6 years ago '09        #71
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 ThatBytch said:
:disdain2: i knew this was gonna turn into a race thread
its BX
 6 years ago '10        #72
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 IMChillin730 said:
How did this became a race debate off of looking at stats of black unemployment to where people r trying to compare the success rate or (degree of laziness) of other races to blacks... dumbsh*t

Not only r black people the second largest population in America and thats only cuz we've been here the longest cuz we were BROUGHT over here against our will. But that means we have no ties or connections to our origins over in Africa and never had a home to go back too if we had migrated here intentionally.

Asians and Other Nationalities have been MIGRATING on their own will with startup plans and money for hundreds of years and while we were still slaves the White Man was giving the Chinaman way more respect and opportunities while we were still treated like animals. Plus for most immigrants that come to America if they setup shop and it fails they just go back home or comeback and try again...we cant do that...were so disconnected that Africans come over here and act like they better than us and try not to be affiliated in whites eyes at all.

Asians r probably the second largest race that exploits black anyway... They realize that after slavery and being in america for years that blacks have developed a westernized view of beauty and appeal (of course after having it beaten into our brains that whites are better than us...literally beaten) so they create businesses based on this fact (nail salons and owning the billion of dollars industry of hair real and synthetic)

I love how muhfu*kahs act like racism doesnt exist because they see blacks with jobs so that means racism is over...nah that just means segregation is over...racism is still very much alive...America has never paid reparations for what theyve done to us and people try to make the excuse of (so im suppose to pay you for something your ancestors did)...yes idiot ....because you never did the sh*t when u had the chance... if something was owed to your great great grandfather say a piece of land, i bet your whiteass would sue like crazy to get whats owed to your family...but we're told to just let it go.

But anyway if we're looking at unemployment statistics in an economy thats fu*ked right now then why r people tryin to claim its due to laziness and other stereotypical features of black people like wanting to live off welfare and staying at home on the couch with a fatgirlfriend and all the other stupidass RACIST sh*t u idiots are saying?




because it is


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 6 years ago '10        #73
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 bi0 said:
if you ain't black then your opinion doesn't matter cause you obviously got a stigma against blacks already from what you see and not what your know... these same opinions bout blacks are carried and thought about when blacks go to find jobs and you wonder why blacks can get jobs..... Whos hiring all these illegal immigrants whites folks of course then when they start taking whites folks jobs its a problem.....

BX stay with the most prejudice hip hops heads ive ever seen... they hate on blacks soo much but love they music and co/sign any white rapper no matter how wack they is....
excuses excuses excuses
 6 years ago '04        #74
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Job counselors say part of the problem is that high schools aren't teaching marketable skills.


Man, been saying this even before I started high school........
 6 years ago '05        #75
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 IMChillin730 said:
Asians and Other Nationalities have been MIGRATING on their own will with startup plans and money for hundreds of years and while we were still slaves the White Man was giving the Chinaman way more respect and opportunities while we were still treated like animals. Plus for most immigrants that come to America if they setup shop and it fails they just go back home or comeback and try again...we cant do that...were so disconnected that Africans come over here and act like they better than us and try not to be affiliated in whites eyes at all.
Oh really? What about the the other Asian countries that are near-third world? Philippines, Vietnam, India, etc.?

The majority of the Filipinos I know, including my family, came to the States from poverty most of you guys never experienced. Their start-up plans were all similar, for the most part. Join and retire with the U.S. Military.

 IMChillin730 said:
Asians r probably the second largest race that exploits black anyway... They realize that after slavery and being in america for years that blacks have developed a westernized view of beauty and appeal (of course after having it beaten into our brains that whites are better than us...literally beaten) so they create businesses based on this fact (nail salons and owning the billion of dollars industry of hair real and synthetic)
Exploit, how? It's more like economics 101, they supply what's in demand. Doesn't seem like there's anything WRONG with that....

 IMChillin730 said:
I love how muhfu*kahs act like racism doesnt exist because they see blacks with jobs so that means racism is over...nah that just means segregation is over...racism is still very much alive...America has never paid reparations for what theyve done to us and people try to make the excuse of (so im suppose to pay you for something your ancestors did)...yes idiot ....because you never did the sh*t when u had the chance... if something was owed to your great great grandfather say a piece of land, i bet your whiteass would sue like crazy to get whats owed to your family...but we're told to just let it go.
Who said it doesn't exist anymore? We're not oblivious to it, but we can't make excuses, but rather push ourselves to the top. Reparations? Affirmative action man.
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 Hit Em' Up said:
I would love to brush this off as racist employers but ive met too many dum n*ggas in my time
u ain't lyin, 3 weeks ago there was a job fair at my job and the supervisor dropped off about 30 applications, 12 of them had me :smh2:, one in particular, where previous jobs are listed, they put "a furniture store". didn't say the name of the store and spelled furniture wrong, for the years employed at the location they put (i can't remember the exact year) something like 2007 - "until it burnt down". for emergency contact they just put "jay" and didn't write a phone number down to contact "jay". if it was a teenager then it probably wouldn't be too serious, but this person from what i remember was almost 30. another person instead of a address they wrote "i stay 2 blocks away" (this one could have been fake , no one is that stupid.......or r they?????). and i don't know if people know this or not but where it asks the days you are able to work, thats where a lot of apps get thrown away, unless you go to school or have another job, you should always agree to work ALL of those days or whenever needed even if its a lie.


some employers are discriminant, but some people just can not fill out a application:smh2:.
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Being an African-American myself, this starts way before a the black man or woman is eligible to enter the job market.

It starts in school and when n*ggas are young.... the black kids are MOST of the time the laziest ones that do horrible in school... then you move onto middle school and HS and black students are mostly in regular classes doing crap anyways. It doesn't take a genius to see this. It's not racist, it's just observation. Honors classes may have a few black kids, and generally they move on to do well anyways.

People want to blame America and say it's the school system's fault for not educating. While some may be true (moreso these days, luckily I been graduated) but n*ggas don't ever want to do sh*t related to school... then when you get to the real world n*ggas start bi*ching about how the world is against them. Sure it may be true, but if yo a.ss been saying fu*k school since you were in 1st grade you been having that same attitude forever with everything.

It is rare to meet and educated/hard working black man/woman that struggles to find a job.

All this sh*t starts at home when n*ggas are young... period.
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This thread has been pure comedy. I love watching black people play the race card to cover up their laziness and lack of focus. Somehow, black people have all the time in the world when it comes to focusing on the bullshit. Bullshit like: whose the best rapper, what kind of clothes the next person is wearing, what happened at the club, whose sleeping with who, what non-black person is saying "n*gga," who got the fattest a.ss, who made a comment that could be deemed as racist, and my personal favorite, "keeping it real with the hood," and the list goes on. They seem to find lots of time to entertain those things. But somehow, there's a ton of excuses when it comes to doing things that could help them advance. Let one of those topics come up and watch how many black people flock to it like a gnat to a street light. But offer free college scholarships and setup a job fair in the hood, and watch it look like a ghost town. There are black people in America who don't give a fuck in the world about any of the topics I mentioned above, and those people advance. They are usually the ones that are labeled Uncle Toms and sell-outs.

Just because you spend 95% of your time focusing on the bullshit, instead of doing what you NEED to be doing, that doesn't mean that your race is the cause of your failure. YOU are the cause of your failure. But personally, I'm fine with black people being lost like this. That makes it a lot easier for young, business-minded black men like myself to make noise in the business world.


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 IMChillin730 said:

But anyway if we're looking at unemployment statistics in an economy thats fu*ked right now then why r people tryin to claim its due to laziness and other stereotypical features of black people like wanting to live off welfare and staying at home on the couch with a fatgirlfriend and all the other stupidass RACIST sh*t u idiots are saying?
They may be stereotypical but they may be valid. n*ggas always be living outside their means, I see it all the time, with my n*ggas, with my n*ggas n*ggas, with my cousins, etc... ya'll act like this sh*t ain't have some sort of validity.

C'mon dude, tell me why n*ggas always got new J's, shoes, and tryna stunt 24/7 but they bi*ch about other dumb sh*t.

This sh*t is not a fu*kin coincidence at all...
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 Illuminated said:
This thread has been pure comedy. I love watching black people play the race card to cover up their laziness and lack of focus. Somehow, black people have all the time in the world when it comes to focusing on the bullshit. Bullshit like: whose the best rapper, what kind of clothes the next person is wearing, what happened at the club, whose sleeping with who, what non-black person is saying "n*gga," who got the fattest a.ss, who made a comment that could be deemed as racist, and my personal favorite, "keeping it real with the hood," and the list goes on. They seem to find lots of time to entertain those things. But somehow, there's a ton of excuses when it comes to doing things that could help them advance. There are black people in America who don't give a fuck in the world about any of the topics I mentioned above, and those people advance. They are usually the ones that are labeled Uncle Toms and sell-outs.

Just because you spend 95% of your time focusing on the bullshit, instead of doing what you NEED to be doing, that doesn't mean that your race is the cause of your failure. YOU are the cause of your failure. But personally, I'm fine with black people being lost like this. That makes it a lot easier for young, business-minded black men like myself to make noise in the business world.
Word.

Black men/women bi*ching are lost... if you were really empowered within and knew what the fu*k you were doing, you'd see it as an advantage of how the black community is.

Being a smart, hard working black man/woman will be a rare and you WILL stand out because of this.
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