Pau Gasol Begging to Stay in LA

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Is Gasol Staying in La La Land?
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 06-21-2011, 06:54 AM         #61
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Stuff like this is why ill never understand the nba. Lakers got gasol for peanuts and now trade him to get younger? Oh and hey take the second pick for another young prospect. NBA is fixed.
 6 years ago '09        #62
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That would be fu*ked up but its the business. I wouldn't mind him staying though. Kevin Love still has a lot to show & prove and I wouldn't be banking on his youthfulness over Pau's experience. Few bad games don't outweigh his contribution, and that's even during the regular season when Bynum was out and Kobe wasn't playing that great due to injuries and time played.
 6 years ago '08        #63
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Gasol is weak.
 6 years ago '09        #64
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 MPLSallstar said:
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We went our family to a contender. Y'all are sending your most important player to minnessota, this aint 2004, that place aint a good look
 6 years ago '06        #65
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 KleinBaller said:
Pau is better. He's taller. He's longer. He's better defensively. Much more of a threat for blocks in the paint. He's a better passer. He's a MUCH better scorer.

Now I know you're immediately going to say "but Kevin Love averages 20 points and Pau averages 19".

Pau averaged 19 points with the leagues 5th leading scorer on his team, and being the number two option.

Kevin Love put up 20 points a game being the number one option on his team, and the only other legit scoring threat on his team being Michael Beasley.

Pau spent the majority of his whole career being the number one option in Memphis. And as I stated earlier, he averaged 17.5 - 21 points per game his whole time there.

Not too add, he took that team to the THREE STRAIGHT PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, and had winning seasons there with a sub-par supporting cast. Something Kevin Love has yet to do. He's the number one option and has yet to help that team win more than 17 games in a season.


Not too add Pau shoots a much better field goal percentage than him.

AND Pau has never averaged less than 17.5 points per game his WHOLE CAREER. Meaning, his rookie season included.

Kevin Love averaged 11 and 14 points respectively his first 2 seasons.

AND most of Kevin Loves points come from put backs, threes, or hitting a mid range jumper.

Outside of hitting threes, Pau does ALL of that AND he has a post game which is HUGE for a PF.

The only thing Kevin Love has on Pau is his age and rebounding.

The Lakers were 3rd in the league in rebounding last year, so rebounding isn't an issue that needs to be addressed.

And at the age of 30, Pau has atleast 2-3 years of continuing to play at this level.

Why would a team that is already third in the league as a team in rebounding, want to give up everything that Pau offers you that Kevin Love doesn't to be a little bit better of a rebounding team and a get a little younger at 1 position? (And let's be real here, he's not going to be putting up those same rebounding numbers playing next to Andrew Bynum)

Maybe even more because he's only been in the NBA 9 years, which is not a lot for someone his age, and he has no history of injury.

The main issues with taking that #2 pick is:
A. If you make the pick, Derrick Williams is more than likely not going to be more than a bench player to small time starter in this league. Yeah, he could prove scouts wrong, but that's the more than likely what's going to happen. He's a tweener who is shaky on a lot of the skills needed for his position(s).
B. You don't know what's going to come of that draft pick in such a shaky draft class. It's WAY too much of a risk.
C. With this draft class being weak, the value of that pick is a lot lower, and so the trade value for it isn't what you would get in typical years. Why do you think there's so much talk of these struggling teams wanting to trade these high picks away?

I just think there's an overreaction to this playoff loss. We don't go to the finals for the 4th year in a row and everyone immediately wants to hit the panic button and blow up what's worked for us 3 out of the last 4 years. There was ZERO talk of even possibly trading Pau before now? The idea of trading Pau before his playoff performance would have been LAUGHED at.

The issue for most of this season (outside of the playoffs) wasn't Pau. It was a need for a more athletic and better shooting swing man, youth and consistent shooting at the PG position, and more consistent bench play.

Those are the issues that need to be addressed and they don't get addressed in this trade scenario.
Nice post! .. finally someone who can discuss hoops on here without posting smilies, gifs and pictures cover up their lack of knowledge!

Good sh*t fam, i agree but i think this trade should happen in fact! Y'all have a chance to bring in a player who can impact the game just as much Pau can impact the game.. Then for insurance on the defensive end of Love being not a good defender you can draft yourself a strong defender at PF (Biyambo but #2 is far too early for him so you could trade the pick down and gain more!)

I think this thread should get done, too much upside for the Lakers in this one!
 6 years ago '05        #66
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 KleinBaller said:
Pau is better. He's taller. He's longer. He's better defensively. Much more of a threat for blocks in the paint. He's a better passer. He's a MUCH better scorer.

Now I know you're immediately going to say "but Kevin Love averages 20 points and Pau averages 19".

Pau averaged 19 points with the leagues 5th leading scorer on his team, and being the number two option.

Kevin Love put up 20 points a game being the number one option on his team, and the only other legit scoring threat on his team being Michael Beasley.

Pau spent the majority of his whole career being the number one option in Memphis. And as I stated earlier, he averaged 17.5 - 21 points per game his whole time there.

Not too add, he took that team to the THREE STRAIGHT PLAYOFF APPEARANCES, and had winning seasons there with a sub-par supporting cast. Something Kevin Love has yet to do. He's the number one option and has yet to help that team win more than 17 games in a season.


Not too add Pau shoots a much better field goal percentage than him.

AND Pau has never averaged less than 17.5 points per game his WHOLE CAREER. Meaning, his rookie season included.

Kevin Love averaged 11 and 14 points respectively his first 2 seasons.

AND most of Kevin Loves points come from put backs, threes, or hitting a mid range jumper.

Outside of hitting threes, Pau does ALL of that AND he has a post game which is HUGE for a PF.

The only thing Kevin Love has on Pau is his age and rebounding.

The Lakers were 3rd in the league in rebounding last year, so rebounding isn't an issue that needs to be addressed.

And at the age of 30, Pau has atleast 2-3 years of continuing to play at this level.

Why would a team that is already third in the league as a team in rebounding, want to give up everything that Pau offers you that Kevin Love doesn't to be a little bit better of a rebounding team and a get a little younger at 1 position? (And let's be real here, he's not going to be putting up those same rebounding numbers playing next to Andrew Bynum)

Maybe even more because he's only been in the NBA 9 years, which is not a lot for someone his age, and he has no history of injury.

The main issues with taking that #2 pick is:
A. If you make the pick, Derrick Williams is more than likely not going to be more than a bench player to small time starter in this league. Yeah, he could prove scouts wrong, but that's the more than likely what's going to happen. He's a tweener who is shaky on a lot of the skills needed for his position(s).
B. You don't know what's going to come of that draft pick in such a shaky draft class. It's WAY too much of a risk.
C. With this draft class being weak, the value of that pick is a lot lower, and so the trade value for it isn't what you would get in typical years. Why do you think there's so much talk of these struggling teams wanting to trade these high picks away?

I just think there's an overreaction to this playoff loss. We don't go to the finals for the 4th year in a row and everyone immediately wants to hit the panic button and blow up what's worked for us 3 out of the last 4 years. There was ZERO talk of even possibly trading Pau before now? The idea of trading Pau before his playoff performance would have been LAUGHED at.

The issue for most of this season (outside of the playoffs) wasn't Pau. It was a need for a more athletic and better shooting swing man, youth and consistent shooting at the PG position, and more consistent bench play.

Those are the issues that need to be addressed and they don't get addressed in this trade scenario.
Real sh*t, this looks like a good deal for both teams. Min gets a proven champ someone that the rest of team knows they can win with because he knows how to win. Lakers get a young upcoming star who can play with vet and only get better, plus the #2 pick to give us the youth and new star we need when kobe done. its perfect deal for both teams if you ask me lets get it done
 6 years ago '04        #67
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I actually hope we keep Pau

If he fu*ks up again (mentally in the playoffs) then dispose of him
 06-21-2011, 08:19 AM         #68
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 kennyboy0707 said:

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Haaaaaa!
 6 years ago '08        #69
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 pus*yFiend said:
Yeah cus your team didn't trade away one of the main pieces if not the biggest piece to you guys being successful in the playoffs prior to this yr right?????

Or did you forget how your whole team went in to depressed mode for like 2 weeks when they heard the news...



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Look at that mans poor face....it has betrayal written all over it


 6 years ago '08        #70
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 Dextromethorphan said:
kobe?
shots fired
 6 years ago '05        #71
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Looks like jimmy buss is done with this goon
samamicofso: If lakers want varejao and sessions, the return is gasol (Maybe Gasol for Varejao, Sessions, and the #4), source says. More nba notes this afternoon on fox sports.
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samamicofso: No panic, cavs fans. Just because lakers might call doesn't mean cavs have to take offer. Or even listen. Again, deal seems like long shot.
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lol im sure hes the one clalin
Probballdraft: The Cavs are asking a lot for Hickson. Want at least 2 picks, 2012 unprotected 1st to trade Hickson. Definitely not combining him w/ 4th.
 06-21-2011, 11:29 AM         #72
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 kennyboy0707 said:
This n*gga beggin to stay after he single handedly caused the Lakers to get Swept????

Lmao so its all Gasol?
 6 years ago '05        #73
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Probballdraft:‎ Talks of Gasol and Love trade is misguided. The timberwolves talked to the lakers about Johnny Flynn.
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 6 years ago '05        #74
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I agree but if ur tradin gasol for varejao n sessions lakers fill 2 needs pg n the pf wid gasol bein gone n they sweeten it up wid da #4 pick who we cud then send to orlando wid bynum for d12
 6 years ago '10        #75
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Mike Brown forcing Lakers front office to bring his old Cavalier players to LA
 6 years ago '05        #76
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^lol naa there aint even one cavs player on here yet but i bet there hungrier then the lakers squad
 6 years ago '11        #77
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Wolves Keepin the # 2 Pick


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 06-21-2011, 11:54 AM         #78
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 TriniSoldier said:
poor pau. they use you for 2 chips and steal two trophys from you. they ride you into the dirt and use you as there scapegoat, and then first chance they get they wanna ditch you. shoulda played for some real n*ggas like boston

He should have played for some "real n*ggas like boston"
 6 years ago '05        #79
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 .:RELOADED:. said:
so let me get this straight.......we lose gasol and bynum

and end up with howard and 2 chumps.......fu*k that


we can get felton/howard without giving away an all star....i say we stick to my way

felton/affalo for brown/blake/1st rd pick/cash

howard/turk for bynum/odom/barnes+future picks
yea in the magic trade we could possibly get d12-bass-turko for bynum-odom-walton of course theyll b picks and what not involved
 06-21-2011, 12:06 PM         #80
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Aging Pau Gasol better than a young fresh Kevin Love. Mitch make it happen Pau showed that he can't come to work and play when he is having off the court problems. Plus a top draft pick hell we could sway D. Howard from Orlando with that pick plus Bynum. This is a championship decision Love can get ya 20+ 15 rebounds and he has range Lakers would be stupid to pass this up. Minnesota is resting a lot on Rubio.
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