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 06-16-2011, 12:02 PM         #81
Bautmoney!™ 
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 Cambury said:
at the sometime a different coach wouldn't make lebron a better shooter or help him develop his game offseason that for the player to do.
Yo my G, Shaq was not a 70% FT shooter but he won multiple championships on his talents.. Yea Lebron doesnt have the best jump shot in the world, YES its up to him to get his shot better.. But its also up to the coach when a player who is struggling with his shot.. in a 2 point ball game.. with 2 minutes left in the game, to make better decisions down the stretch.. Dont you understand how game 5 was a winnable game for the Heat.. Down 2.. 100-102 Lebron throws up 1 brick, get the ball back, Lebron chucks a 3 on the rebound Dallas comes down and hits a 3.. Now the Heat are down 5. At that point in a 100-102 game on the road in the NBA Finals, a head coach is telling his two STARS.. Wade and BRON to take the ball to the basket.. either score or put the pressure on the refs to make a call..

Its up to the players to perform... but its the coaches job to understand the situation, you are on the road and one of your best players is struggling with his shot.. Why is he still shooting, and if is not listening to you, find him a seat on the bench..
 6 years ago '04        #82
Plizaya J 1 heat pts
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 O_nasty said:
he refuses to be coached

not their fault
did kobe or jordan win without phil?
 6 years ago '07        #83
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 Bautmoney!™ said:
Yo my G, Shaq was not a 70% FT shooter but he won multiple championships on his talents.. Yea Lebron doesnt have the best jump shot in the world, YES its up to him to get his shot better.. But its also up to the coach when a player who is struggling with his shot.. in a 2 point ball game.. with 2 minutes left in the game, to make better decisions down the stretch.. Dont you understand how game 5 was a winnable game for the Heat.. Down 2.. 100-102 Lebron throws up 1 brick, get the ball back, Lebron chucks a 3 on the rebound Dallas comes down and hits a 3.. Now the Heat are down 5. At that point in a 100-102 game on the road in the NBA Finals, a head coach is telling his two STARS.. Wade and BRON to take the ball to the basket.. either score or put the pressure on the refs to make a call..

Its up to the players to perform... but its the coaches job to understand the situation, you are on the road and one of your best players is struggling with his shot.. Why is he still shooting, and if is not listening to you, find him a seat on the bench..
how do you drive to the basket when noone is guarding you? He got a charge at a vital point in the game because Tyson knew dat n*gga was gon catch and lower his shoulder...this is PROFESSIONAL basketball its not as simple as just drive, Lebron has NO TOUCH so its not even like if he doesn't get there he has other options.
 6 years ago '09        #84
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 O_nasty said:
he refuses to be coached

not their fault
Mike Brown made him a very good defender in his time with him.
 6 years ago '09        #85
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 O_nasty said:
it doesn't take an offensive guru to teach someone how to post up and play with your back to the basket. he refuses to learn and take criticism from whoever, he learned nothing from Larry Brown during the Olympics
James, mechanical though he can appear, has 160 post-up possessions to his name this season, shooting 52.4 percent, drawing a shooting foul 8.8 percent of the time and scoring at least a single point on over half the plays. Better yet, he scores 1.03 points per post-up, which ranks him 19th in the league.

That’s among all NBA players, not just small forwards or wing players.

For comparison’s sake, Bryant, in an offense built around versatile players who can operate in the post, has 300 post-ups, but he is ranked 39th in the league scoring 0.97 points per possession, while getting to the free-throw line 1.5 percent less. Effectively, for every 100 possessions, James scores six more points than Bryant.

Among other swingmen known for their post-up capabilities, Carmelo Anthony is 51st with .94 PPP in 274 post-ups, Joe Johnson 26th in 202 possessions (1.00 PPP) and Paul Pierce 10th at 1.13 PPP in 120 post-ups.

Yes, these qualify as advanced statistics, but before you shrug your shoulders, consider that these numbers are from SynergySports, which logs each possession in every game using the actual game film. So, by their very nature, the stats pass the eye test.

Oddly enough, James was marginally better in the post the previous season, when he was 14th in the league – higher if you set the qualifier to 150 post-ups – scoring 1.08 points per play in 152 possessions, getting to the stripe an incredible 15.8 percent of the time. And that’s where numbers don’t tell the entire story.

Your wrong.
 6 years ago '09        #86
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 Imagin3 said:
he has the worst jumpshot of any perimeter superstar player by far tho.
You're wrong.

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Enlarge em no homo
 6 years ago '09        #87
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 Cambury said:
what are you talking about? Only Phil knows how to manage superstars those other coaches dont like players like Lebron even Phil said lebron isnt ready yet.
where u just make stuff up sometimes lebron has not had an old vet coach the only time was paul silas and they fired him only cuz the teams were a.ss if he stayed lebron would have been a different player even tho he is still a beast yall acting like he didnt win 2 out of the last 3 mvps
 6 years ago '09        #88
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 Imagin3 said:
he shoots rondo-like open jump shots that are created by his slashing
if bron is taking jumpshots because hes FORCED to, he struggles MIGHTILY
Teams crowd him enough not to be wide open. You are of course over exaggerating to prove your point. Makes you seem ignorant and hateful..which you are.
 6 years ago '09        #89
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 Knockout Kingz said:
Dude came str-8 outta high school...and the past 7 yrs he's relied on RAW talent.

He doesnt possess any real basketball skills. If he wants this season be erased from his legacy...he's gonna have to get up off his a.ss and get his game up and start winning championships!!
He's a great passer, defender, and rebounder. He has a high BBIQ and great feel for the game. You're talking out of your a.ss and just making up stuff.
 6 years ago '08        #90
iPunish901 12 heat pts12
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that racist might be on to something
 6 years ago '07        #91
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 xRapHeadx said:
You're wrong.

LeBron James

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The eye test man...he also gets more open jumpers than anyone
 6 years ago '09        #92
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 Cambury said:
how is lebron a scorer? He has no inbetween game...if he cant slash he isnt a threat even wide open
He's a better mid range shooter than Kobe Bean Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, and Kevin Durant.
 6 years ago '09        #93
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 Cambury said:
The eye test man...he also gets more open jumpers than anyone
Define open? Because otherwise you're just trying to make up some stupid qualification to these stats. He's given room, but so is Dwyane Wade and Melo....and he's outshooting them.
 6 years ago '09        #94
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
The guys you named like Timmy and Mailman are Superstars for their play on the court. Guys like LeBron are superstars for off the court.
What are you talking about? Almost every criticism of LeBron in this thread have been attacks on his character or made up evaluations. If you're going to criticize..do it right.
 6 years ago '10        #95
BEAST7 1 heat pts
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 xRapHeadx said:
He's a better mid range shooter than Kobe Bean Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, and Kevin Durant.

naw
 6 years ago '09        #96
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 BEAST7 said:

naw
so you didn't take the time to view the data?
 6 years ago '07        #97
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 xRapHeadx said:
Define open? Because otherwise you're just trying to make up some stupid qualification to these stats. He's given room, but so is Dwyane Wade and Melo....and he's outshooting them.
if you didnt have access to the numbers but you had to choose between Melo and Bron to take a shot or your favorite cousin will get shot in the foot, who would you choose?
 6 years ago '04        #98
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Even with his flaws he is still the greatest player in the world right now. Shout out to Barry. He spit some real sh*t unlike charles and f*ggot a.ss skip bayless!!!
 6 years ago '04        #99
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James Needs To Work On A Crossover an his jumper This Summer!!!!!!!!
 6 years ago '04        #100
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Ive been saying this forever. Hes still such a raw talent. He still has a lot of coaching to get. Hes playing off of straight talent right now. Pat needs to get in there and work with him this summer
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