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 7 years ago '04        #61
justinjones 312 heat pts312
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this damn samples vs shadyvseminem happens almost every week now

and a lot of songs in any genre got more than one writer on it. why is that so surprising to people
 7 years ago '05        #62
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
Its unoriginal, just like recently Beyonce got crucified for jacking some elses performance (hilarious stuff)
so you dont like sampled music, but you like rap? really dude? seriously, just really? what exactly do you like then? what songs do you like, what artists? now its at the point where i have to know just for piece of mind, because your making an argument that is so far fetched and wrong that you must be running some sort of kaufmanesque joke, you can't be for real
 05-29-2011, 02:51 PM         #63
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Cole really jocks Ye way to much. Come up on your own image/steez like everybody else did
 05-29-2011, 03:13 PM         #64
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 trock34 said:

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but Cole's manager tweeted a quote from Never Let Me Down

Never Let Me Down being revived would be amazin.
 05-29-2011, 03:21 PM         #65
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 StatisticZ said:
Never Let Me Down being revived would be amazin.
do we really need to remake songs from 6 years ago?
 05-29-2011, 03:43 PM         #66
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 Slickems said:
do we really need to remake songs from 6 years ago?
Remaking the sampling, that'd be dope. Technology for sound has advanced a lot since then..
 7 years ago '05        #67
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 pkilla111 said:
u know how hard it is to make a hot track without a sample :omfg:and im being dead serious
Im a.ssuming u dont know who Lex Luger is
 7 years ago '07        #68
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 trock34 said:
your a idiot we know
irony
 7 years ago '07        #69
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he's not getting a gramophone
 7 years ago '10        #70
Rawfury 76 heat pts76
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What if its all falls down :kanyeuhh:


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 05-29-2011, 03:58 PM         #71
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 StatisticZ said:
Remaking the sampling, that'd be dope. Technology for sound has advanced a lot since then..
explain
 7 years ago '04        #72
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 pkilla111 said:
flashing lights aint a sample neither and its one of his best workkanye a genius


Flashing Lights is a sample from Curtis Mayfield's song "Little Child Running Wild"

I bump Kanye West... but the dude samples heavy... just his style... To each their own..
 7 years ago '04        #73
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 iThink said:
I don't believe paranoid was sampled either and it was hot
Paranoid is a sample from Alan Parsons Project's song "Standing On Higher Ground"


No disrespect... But you are in Nuclear War with a Swiss army knife trying to defend Kanye West as a non sampling creative producer... He falls in the category of a great beat maker...

Just because dude is getting "A's" in Algebra doesn't mean he should go around telling everyone he knows Quantum Physics and Calculus.

Not a good look.. Especially when you run up on someone with a PhD... Hence the Quincy Jones and Kanye West exchange that happen not to long ago...

Dude is good at what he does... I listen with that in mind... and I think everyone else should simply do the same...
 05-29-2011, 04:44 PM         #74
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 Sence said:
Paranoid is a sample from Alan Parsons Project's song "Standing On Higher Ground"


No disrespect... But you are in Nuclear War with a Swiss army knife trying to defend Kanye West as a non sampling creative producer... He falls in the category of a great beat maker...

Just because dude is getting "A's" in Algebra doesn't mean he should go around telling everyone he knows Quantum Physics and Calculus.

Not a good look.. Especially when you run up on someone with a PhD... Hence the Quincy Jones and Kanye West exchange that happen not to long ago...

Dude is good at what he does... I listen with that in mind... and I think everyone else should simply do the same...

Find your love, all of the lights, love lockdown, amazing, welcome to heartbreak, you know you know (without vocal sample), show me a good time

those are classic beats IMO...and theyre enough for me to consider him an amazing producer even without samples...hes up there with the greatest as far as non-sampling hip hop producers
 7 years ago '09        #75
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
Name a few of his hits that are not based around a sample
THe article clearly states 5 PEOPLE need to give permission for the clearance it's not just Kanye stop responding dofus
 05-29-2011, 05:08 PM         #76
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This whole thread is

1. EVERY great Hip-Hop producer EVER has sampled heavily. Idiots will claim sampling shows you lack skill, then say their favorite producer is Premier/Pete Rock/RZA/Dre or whoever.

2. Whatever song he sampled could have had 4 different writers on it. If the songwriter from the sampled track gave some writing credits to a guy hitting a cow bell once on it or some sh*t, your gonna have to get his permission too.
 05-29-2011, 05:17 PM         #77
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 Rawfury said:
What if its all falls down :kanyeuhh:
That's actually what I thought it was and Lauryn Hill was causing problems.
 05-29-2011, 05:23 PM         #78
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
No wonder it was his worst recieved album, that pretty much rubber stamps my point emphatically. The album where he tried to be original the most was the album his fans hate most.
He definitely learned his lesson for his next album cause he went to town sampling again having realized his own beats didnt cut the mustard
It has nothing to do with the fact that it's his darkest album or the fact that it features him singing not rapping, or maybe because he deliberately didn't make music for the sake of sales (which no doubt, is why you listen to music, because it sells well)? No, you're going to take your idiotic argument of Kanye's original music being garbage so he has to sample or "steal" music.

My question is, why are you even here? Nobody with any sense agrees with your thoughts and you've contradicted your own self several times. You've pointed out how Kanye has five writers, but multiple Em songs have as many as four writers.

Your problem with Kanye is he's black and he interrupted Taylor Swift. Let's be honest here. You're tired of the black man Kanye being liked better or critically lauded more than your God Eminem. That's your problem. I don't see you running your little Euro self into DJ Premier threads, Nas threads, or any other rappers threads talking this sample bullsh*t. You have a personal beef with Kanye. Just let it out and you'll be free.


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 05-29-2011, 05:25 PM         #79
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 Dangerously said:
It has nothing to do with the fact that it's his darkest album or the fact that it features him singing not rapping, or maybe because he deliberately didn't make music for the sake of sales (which no doubt, is why you listen to music, because it sells well)? No, you're going to take your idiotic argument of Kanye's original music being garbage so he has to sample or "steal" music.

My question is, why are you even here? Nobody with any sense agrees with your thoughts and you've contradicted your own self several times. You've pointed out how Kanye has five writers, but multiple Em songs have as many as four writers.

Your problem with Kanye is he's black and he interrupted Taylor Swift. Let's be honest here. You're tired of the black man Kanye being liked better or critically lauded more than your God Eminem. That's your problem. I don't see you running your little Euro self into DJ Premiere threads, Nas threads, or any other rappers threads talking this sample bullsh*t. You have a personal beef with Kanye. Just let it out and you'll be free.


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 05-29-2011, 05:30 PM         #80
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Look at this thief.

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "Cold Wind Blows" Marshall Mathers, J. Smith, S. Byrne, H. Marsh, J. Perry, C. Synge Just Blaze 5:03

2. "Talkin' 2 Myself" (featuring Kobe) M. Mathers, K. Rahman, P. Injeti, B. Honeycutt DJ Khalil 5:00

3. "On Fire" M. Mathers, D. Porter, C. Wilson, L. Wilson, R. Wilson Denaun Porter 3:33

4. "Won't Back Down" (featuring Pink) M. Mathers, K. Rahman, E. Alcock, L. Rodrigues, C. Smith DJ Khalil 4:25

5. "W.T.P." M. Mathers, L. Resto, D. Chin-Quee, J. Gilbert Supa Dups, JG (co.), Eminem (add.) 3:58

6. "Going Through Changes" M. Mathers, E. Heynie, J. Osbourne, A. Iommi, W. Ward, T. Butler Emile 4:58

7. "Not Afraid" M. Mathers, L. Resto, M. Samuels, J. Evans, M. Burnett Boi-1da, Jordan Evans (add.), Matthew Burnett (add.), Eminem (add.) 4:08

8. "Seduction" M. Mathers, M. Samuels, M. Burnett, S. Jordan Boi-1da, Matthew Burnett (add.) 4:35

9. "No Love" (featuring Lil Wayne) M. Mathers, D. Carter, J. Smith, Dee Dee Halligan, Junior Torello Just Blaze 4:59

10. "Space Bound" M. Mathers, J. Scheffer, S. McEwan Jim Jonsin 4:38

11. "Cinderella Man" M. Mathers Script Shepherd 4:39

12. "25 to Life" M. Mathers, K. Rahman, L. Rodrigues, D. Tannenbaum DJ Khalil 4:01

13. "So Bad" M. Mathers, A. Young, M. Batson, D. Parker, T. Lawrence, S. Cruse, N. Brongers Dr. Dre, Nick Brongers 5:25

14. "Almost Famous" M. Mathers, K. Rahman, L. Rodrigues, E. Alcock. P. Injeti, D. Tannenbaum DJ Khalil 4:52

15. "Love the Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna) M. Mathers, A. Grant, H. Hafermann Alex da Kid 4:23

16. "You're Never Over" M. Mathers, J. Smith, M. Mainieri Jr., G. McMann Just Blaze 5:05

17. "Untitled" (hidden track) M. Mathers, K. Muchita, M. Crawford, J. Madara, D. White Havoc, Magnedo7 (co.) 3:14

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DAMN HE NEEDED 6 WRITERS FOR A SONG CALLED UNTITLED :whoa2:

Sample credits

* "Cold Wind Blows" contains elements from "Patriotic Song" by The Gringos
* "On Fire" contains a sample of "Peace and Love" as performed by Mandrill
* "Going Through Changes" contains a sample of "Changes" by Black Sabbath
* "No Love" features a sample of "What Is Love" by Haddaway
* "Space Bound" features an interpolation of "Song for Bob" by Nick Cave and Warren Ellis
* "Space Bound" features an interpolation of "Drive" by R.E.M.
* "You're Never Over" contains a sample of "Cry Little Sister" by Gerard McMann
* "Untitled" features a sample of "You Don't Own Me" by Lesley Gore

Personnel

Credits for Recovery adapted from Allmusic.[92]

* Erik Alcock – Guitar
* Julian Alexander – Art Direction, Design
* Mark Batson – Keyboards
* Kip Blackshire – Choir, Chorus
* Boi 1da – Producer
* Nick Brongers – Producer
* Matthew Burnett – Strings, Additional Production
* Damon "Bing" Chatman – a.ssistant Coordinator
* Larry Chatman – Production Coordination, Project Coordinator
* Christian Clancy – Marketing
* Kristen Ashley Cole – Choir, Chorus
* M. Crawford – Composer
* Sean Cruse – Guitar
* Kal "Boogie" Dellaportas – Engineer
* Terry Dexter – Choir, Chorus
* DJ Khalil – Producer
* DJ Mormile – A&R
* Dr. Dre – Producer, Executive Producer, Mixing
* Eminem – Mixing, Additional Production
* Jordan Evans – Strings, Additional Production
* John Fisher – Studio Manager
* Michael Gamble – Engineer
* Brian "Big Bass" Gardner – Mastering
* Christal Garrick II – Choir, Chorus
* Nikki Grier – Vocals
* Havoc – Producer
* Emile Haynie – Producer
* Howie Herbst – a.ssistant Engineer
* Matt Huber – a.ssistant Engineer
* Chin Injeti – Bass, Guitar
* Tony Iommi – Composer
* Mauricio Iragorri – Engineer
* Joe Strange – Engineer, a.ssistant Engineer
* Jim Jonsin – Keyboards, Programming, Producer
* Sly Jordan – Saxophone, Vocals, Choir, Chorus
* Just Blaze – Producer, Mixing
* Danny Keyz – Keyboards
* Alex Da Kid – Producer, Mixing
* Rich King – Choir, Chorus
* Trevor Lawrence – Keyboards
* Spike Lindsey – a.ssistant Engineer
* Nick Low-Beer – Drum Programming
* Magnedo – Producer
* Deborah Mannis-Gardner – Sample Clearance
* Robert Marks – Engineer
* Rob Marks – Mixing
* Marshall Mathers – Composer
* Steve McEwan – Guitar, Vocals on track 11
* Tracy McNew – A&R
* Alex Murzin – Engineer
* Danny Morris – Keyboards
* Mr. Porter – Producer
* Dawaun Parker – Keyboards
* Nigel Parry – Photography
* Chris "Trife" Patilis – a.ssistant Engineer
* Kirdis Postelle – Project Coordinator
* Dwayne "Supa Dups" Chin Quee – Drums, Producer, Engineer, Drum Arrangements
* Rahki – Keyboards, Programming
* Khalil Abdul Rahman – Keyboards, Drum Programming
* Luis Resto – Keyboards
* Robert Reyes – a.ssistant Engineer, Vocal Engineer
* Makeba Ridd!ck – Vocal Producer
* Liz Rodriguez – Vocals
* Paul D. Rosenberg – Executive Producer
* Matthew "Boi 1da" Samuels – Drums, Engineer
* Jason Sangerman – Marketing Coordinator
* Les Scurry – Production Coordination
* Daniel Seeff – Guitar
* Script Shepherd – Producer
* Manny Smith – A&R
* Mike Strange – Guitar (Acoustic), Bass, Guitar, Keyboards, Engineer, Mixing
* Marcos Tovar – Engineer
* Bill Ward – Composer
* Ryan West – Engineer, Mixing
* Jason Wilkie – a.ssistant Engineer
* Andre Young – Composer
* Ianthe Zevos – Creative Director
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