Blood Edge said:
c and d are exactly why I don't have a problem with it being banned outdoors...it's been shown that the chemicals pose a risk and forcing that risk upon others no matter how small it is isn't right
and all public scares aren't for naught.....granted they can be used for any agenda like you said but in this case what's being changed helps more people than it hurts
I am biased on the issue though...my grandfather died from lung cancer stemming from a smoking habit..the amount of tar in his lungs was ridiculous.......and every person I know that smokes cigs smells of ash and has cardiovascular issues...so if it takes a law that shouldn't be used in similar situations to remove that sh*t from the public, so be it
Another part of the article
Inhaled mainstream smoke, however, contains chemicals at concentrations of up to one million times those found in environmental tobacco smoke (which is a combination of exhaled mainstream smoke and sidestream smoke)...
However, I see you bias, and it's reasonable(and I wont argue with it, as to change your mind); however, there is no connection empirical scientific evidence to support your claim, of your grandfather death from lung cancer and smoking cause the lung cancer, it just isn't there. What is, is your misguided belief in a propaganda scare, that has made you a.ssume the connection, based off false information, and invalid studies.
If there was a true empirical research to support these claims, even as a smoker I'd be behind them, however, you being okay with the idea, that legislation based off false, unfounded information, is simply foolish beyond this issue. You should be the one to take offense, when this happens in other situations ie: discrimination against a social group you belong to, ie: Jim Crow.
Same with gay marriage, there is no logical reason why it shouldn't exist, based off government benefits alone for same s3x couples. I'm fine with same-s3x couples, but I'm no "proponent"; however, I won't support improper, insensible and discriminatory legislation in any way.
Do you not see what this public scare of second hand smoke, and tobacco in general has fueled in you, even when there is evidence discrediting the very information you believe in? The manipulation and deceit doesn't just impact the smokers. To the very point, you have clear evidence in your face, and still(along with others, who can't even understand the issue past the point they believe what they hear) deny it, I'm pretty sure you are capable of fully understanding that entire article.
However, like many public scares fueled off more than often misinformation, it is only till decades later, we actually realize the stupidity of our legislation. IE: The War on Drugs, and the tactics(supply reduction, combat drugs once they've crossed boarders, resources spent on low-level dealers, limited foreign affair in drugs, consideration of legalization, etc) , misguided legislation built around racism, and discrimination. Even more, sentencing guidelines that make no entire sense(ie: marijuana being schedule 1, yet having obvious medical usage). The worst part of this example, the poverty that help sustains, along with criminals produced from taking part in the illegal market, created through its illegality, and even more, the day to day lives that this public scare causes.
In your case, you're affected through deceit; however, this is much more than a simple smoking issue at hand, at least from my eyes.