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 7 years ago '05        #41
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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 fmoney88 said:
how do you go to the finals at 22 years old without closing out games?


so lebron wouldnt of won rings at 22, if he had a prime shaq on the cavs with him??
I don't do hypothetical sh*t. If he could he would, but he didn't.

LeBron was a one man show with the Cavs you put him on the Lakers his numbers would have taken huge hit with playing with a prime Shaq.

LeBron is a good player and still got years ahead of him. But his will to win is not on Kobe's level.


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 05-10-2011, 10:12 PM         #42
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
I don't do hypothetical sh*t. If he could he would, but he didn't.

LeBron was a one man show with the Cavs you put him on the Lakers his numbers would have taken huge hit with playing with a prime Shaq.
when lebron was 22, he was destroying a pistons team that was picked to possibly win a championship.

when lebron was 22, he led a team of scrubs to the finals....

if im not mistaking kobe was losing in the first round the same year, his BEST season in the nba
 05-10-2011, 10:15 PM         #43
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
I don't do hypothetical sh*t. If he could he would, but he didn't.

LeBron was a one man show with the Cavs you put him on the Lakers his numbers would have taken huge hit with playing with a prime Shaq.

LeBron is a good player and still got years ahead of him. But his will to win is not on Kobe's level.
your an idiot. Kobe had more feild goal attempts per game than lebron
 7 years ago '05        #44
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 P. Dedos said:
hes about to have as many finals mvp than kobe when the season is ova fu*kboy
Says a fu*king Heat fan.
 7 years ago '05        #45
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 fmoney88 said:
when lebron was 22, he was destroying a pistons team that was picked to possibly win a championship.

when lebron was 22, he led a team of scrubs to the finals....

if im not mistaking kobe was losing in the first round the same year, his BEST season in the nba
Are you kidding me? A Detroit tean that was old. While Kobe played with the likes of Kwame Brown and Smush Parker?

you are a tard. The Suns were on the the best teams in the West that year. The West was loaded and the East was not that good at all.

You talking about the 06-07 team right?


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 7 years ago '09        #46
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Both seasons were great to me


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Their great players just leave it at that, lebron is gonna be top 10. Dont understand why people hate on kobe like he personally did something to yall
 7 years ago '05        #47
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
Are you kidding me? A Detroit tean that was old. While Kobe played with the likes of Kwame Brown and Smush Parker?

you are a tard. The Suns were on the the best teams in the West that year. The West was loaded and the East was not that good at all.

You talking about the 06-07 team right?
Regardless of his team, Kobe should have lead his team to a better seed than a 7. Then they got smashed by the Suns. Roster for roster, the Cavs were not much better than the Lakers. Also, the Pistons were not that old. They just lost a 7 game final the previous year to a great Spurs team. Don't forget during that series versus the Cavs, Lebron scored the Cavs last 25 pts including 18 in ot.
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 RaIVIpAG3x said:
Both seasons were great to me


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Their great players just leave it at that, lebron is gonna be top 10. Dont understand why people hate on kobe like he personally did something to yall
You must not remember people hating on Jordan in the 90s. You either hated or loved him. Same thing with Kobe and Lebron. That's what comes with being the best
 05-10-2011, 10:49 PM         #49
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putting shaq in the same sentence as kobe is a disgrace to shaq.. shaq was the most DOMINANT player of this time.. therefor the best.
 7 years ago '05        #50
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 assanlb said:
Regardless of his team, Kobe should have lead his team to a better seed than a 7. Then they got smashed by the Suns. Roster for roster, the Cavs were not much better than the Lakers. Also, the Pistons were not that old. They just lost a 7 game final the previous year to a great Spurs team. Don't forget during that series versus the Cavs, Lebron scored the Cavs last 25 pts including 18 in ot.
n*gga you got you years mixed. That was two years later for the Pistons and Cavs played in the ECF. Get your sh*t straight. Piston lost the year before to Miami.

Did you see the Lakers Roster. That team was not beating anyone..

Sasha Vujacic
Kobe Bryant
Aaron McKie
Jordan Farmar
William "Smush" Parker
Maurice Evans
Shammond Williams
Luke Walton
1Vladimir Radmanovic
Lamar Odom
Brian Cook PF
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Chris Mihm
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 7 years ago '10        #51
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 lil jay 05 said:
how can we value shaq so much when he started winning championships the center position was a joke in the nba. kobe level of competition was tougher than what shaq had to face.

yall n*ggas are fu*king stupid. he was just big, that was it. His work ethic was horrible. his drive and determination is not even close to kobe's level.

yall are fu*king idiots. But i am a casual fan.
you are a dumbass

stop posting
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 Lowkey18 said:
putting shaq in the same sentence as kobe is a disgrace to shaq.. shaq was the most DOMINANT player of this time.. therefor the best.
If Shaq was as dedicated as Kobe and worked to stay in shape and also worked on his freethrow shooting I would put him above Kobe, but he wasn't. He was never determined as Kobe and never worked as hard as Kobe.
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
If Shaq was as dedicated as Kobe and worked to stay in shape and also worked on his freethrow shooting I would put him above Kobe, but he wasn't. He was never determined as Kobe and never worked as hard as Kobe.
and yet was still better than kobe..
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 Agentzer0oo0 said:
you are a dumbass

stop posting
Shut the fu*k up you do not know a damn thing about ball if are disagreeing with me on that. Even teammates were mad at Shaq because he never took sh*t serious. Even Phil called him out of that sh*t numerous times.
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 Lowkey18 said:
and yet was still better than kobe..
Right he was better at sitting on the bench with 10 seconds left in the game. Gods knows he would of lost those games for them.
 7 years ago '05        #56
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 P. Dedos said:
right this clown is something else u cant even take him seriously
post your top ten players.
 05-10-2011, 10:56 PM         #57
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kobe also played in a era of weak defensive foul calls giving the advantage to the superstar and the offensive player..
 05-10-2011, 10:56 PM         #58
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
Right he was better at sitting on the bench with 10 seconds left in the game. Gods knows he would of lost those games for them.
so your saying dwight howard isnt top 5 in the NBA right now because his FT shooting is bad?
 05-10-2011, 10:57 PM         #59
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the media has tricked you fu*kers into thinking kobe is actually better than he really is.. imo hes battling to be teh 4th best laker let alone being top 5 all time.. top 10 he may sneak in.. but barely.
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 Lowkey18 said:
so your saying dwight howard isnt top 5 in the NBA right now because his FT shooting is bad?
How did I say that? Where did I say that? Not top 5, but he is top 10.
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