who exactly has derrick rose made better?

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 7 years ago '07        #21
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16 OP
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 Hold That said:
Korver playing like sh*t? Thats news to me.. Brewer playing like sh*t? Wasn't he traded from the Jazz then cut by the Grizz? You reaching desperately.. He's probably had his best season with the Bulls in his career.. Played his best defense and improved his midrange.
no,he wasnt cut by tha griz,and korver played good against indy and thats it.check his stats
 7 years ago '05        #22
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 r.burgundy said:
boobie gibson,moe williams,ilgauskas,varejo

jason williams,mario chalmers,antoine walker,jason kapono,haslem

derick fisher,robert horry

o,and none of those players are p.gs
none of those players had career years under lebron.. Did you really say Wade made Walker/Jwill/haslem better? So Jwill and Walker had their best years with Wade?

I can easily say Rose made Noah better if you putting Haslem on the list.. I can easily say Rose made Deng better if you putting Horry/Kapono/Mo Williams etc.. on the list.. ALl of those players were posting around the same stats they had before those players joined the team.. None of those player elevated their game to a point where they were talked about as all-stars 6th men whatever..


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 7 years ago '07        #23
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 DERRTY CHYBO said:
Son why are you hating just for the sake of hating. stop it.
y do u stan for tha sake of stannin?
 05-06-2011, 10:33 PM         #24
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The Chicago Bulls
one hitta quitta.
 7 years ago '07        #25
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 Hold That said:
none of those players had career years under lebron..
u wanna bet????and lebron isnt a pg
 7 years ago '04        #26
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 r.burgundy said:
y do u stan for tha sake of stannin?
Where did I stan at? That was my only comment in this thread
 05-06-2011, 10:35 PM         #27
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 Hold That said:
none of those players had career years under lebron..
actually ALL of those players on the cavs had their best years under lebron. Mo Williams instantly became an all star caliber point guard because of lebron. That alone is amazing....
 7 years ago '07        #28
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 DERRTY CHYBO said:
Where did I stan at? That was my only comment in this thread
not neccesarily u,but cmon son
u know stans are in this thread

and its a simple question,who has rose made betta
 7 years ago '06        #29
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 0ddJoB said:
His new name is Point Hog


Real talk.
 7 years ago '05        #30
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 fmoney88 said:
actually ALL of those players on the cavs had their best years under lebron. Mo Williams instantly became an all star caliber point guard because of lebron. That alone is amazing....
stop it. you trying to hard..
 7 years ago '05        #31
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"Making your teammates better" is just a stupid cliche phrase that was said a few times and people ran with it trying to minimize the accomplishments of players that have to put the team on their back to win. Obviously some players aren't going to get better when Rose is on the floor because he takes away some of their shots and plays because he HAS to make plays and shoot in order for the Bulls to win.

Kobe doesn't need to make that many plays in order for the Lakers to win. They're a more balanced team..Rose literally has to put the Bulls on his back or else they won't win. He makes the Chicago Bulls better.
 7 years ago '07        #32
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 Switchc2390 said:
"Making your teammates better" is just a stupid cliche phrase that was said a few times and people ran with it trying to minimize the accomplishments of players that have to put the team on their back to win. Obviously some players aren't going to get better when Rose is on the floor because he takes away some of their shots and plays because he HAS to make plays and shoot in order for the Bulls to win.

Kobe doesn't need to make that many plays in order for the Lakers to win. They're a more balanced team..Rose literally has to put the Bulls on his back or else they won't win. He makes the Chicago Bulls better.
so nash,cp3 etc etc dont make their teamates betta???
dwill didnt make booze an all star

why havent noahs #'s went up in 2 seasons

just stop.absolutely nothin cliche about makin your teamates betta
a cliche is"this guy leads his team"
 7 years ago '07        #33
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 Hold That said:
stop it. you trying to hard..
so who has become an all star under rose?
 7 years ago '06        #34
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Burgundy....

Clowning ALL these fools...nice
 7 years ago '05        #35
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 r.burgundy said:
so who has become an all star under rose?
hard to become an all-star when 2 of your top 3 players miss a combine 55 games.
 7 years ago '05        #36
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 r.burgundy said:
so nash,cp3 etc etc dont make their teamates betta???
dwill didnt make booze an all star

why havent noahs #'s went up in 2 seasons

just stop.absolutely nothin cliche about makin your teamates betta
a cliche is"this guy leads his team"
Nah the phrase has become very cliche in basketball.

If Nash is making his teammates so much better and it matters so much why aren't they in the playoffs?
Why couldn't CP3 advance to the next round?

Making your teammates better is cool, but if you don't have to to win why would you? And Noah has been better playing with Rose..the only person who is going down in production right now is Boozer..and that's just cause he isn't playing hard enough.
 7 years ago '07        #37
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 Hold That said:
hard to become an all-star when 2 of your top 3 players miss a combine 55 games.
ive seen guys miss more games and become all-stars but thats besides tha point.why have noahs #'s not gone up since his 2nd year playin wit tha best pg in tha league??
 7 years ago '11        #38
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Rose a score first point guard so you wouldn't expect for his play to make his teammates stats to go significantly higher but he makes the team better with his scorin

so basically his point guard skills aren't as good as others like CP3, Nash, Rondo, Williams or Wall
 7 years ago '07        #39
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 Switchc2390 said:
Nah the phrase has become very cliche in basketball.

If Nash is making his teammates so much better and it matter so much why aren't they in the playoffs?
Why couldn't CP3 advance to the next round?


Making your teammates better is cool, but if you don't have to to win why would you? And Noah has been better playing with Rose..the only person who is going down in production right now is Boozer..and that's just cause he isn't playing hard enough.
cause they hav a sh*tty team,nothin nash can do about that
because dwest was out for tha series and n.o is unersized as is.if boozer or noah go down in tha playoffs,season ova for chi-town

rose has been gettin abused by jeff fu*kin teague for petes sake

boozr is goin down cause he rarely gets touches and rose doesnt create shots for him
 7 years ago '08        #40
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Bulls fans please just ignore r.burgundy. That idiot thinks Tyrus Thomas plays like Antoine Walker for god sakes. The man is a fu*king moron and dont know sh*t about basketball.
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