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 7 years ago '05        #301
DaOmega_1 271 heat pts271
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 abstractq said:
XL recordings = British independent label

it has some commercial acts and some underground acts. . .but their hip-hop is not mainstream

Cool Kids is also on that label


smarten up. . .
Goblin is a mainstream release. So was Adele's album. Because they originate from what it ostensibly an indie label does not change that they are marketed towards wider bigger mainstream audiences. Adele had a big push, and Tyler has a big push as well. In other words: mainstream.
 7 years ago '04        #302
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 justinjones said:
the cool kid's music has also been in video games and commercials so that might not be the best comparison

pharaohe monche been in video games b. . .
 7 years ago '05        #303
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 abstractq said:
pharaohe monche been in video games b. . .
Wasn't he signed to Universal at one point in his career?

And, didn't he just appear on Comedy Central's "Comedy Awards" along with Jon Cryer from "Two & a Half Men"?
 7 years ago '04        #304
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 DaOmega_1 said:
Goblin is a mainstream release. So was Adele's album. Because they originate from what it ostensibly an indie label does not change that they are marketed towards wider bigger mainstream audiences. Adele had a big push, and Tyler has a big push as well. In other words: mainstream.

with self produced videos, zero airplay and a tumblr?
 7 years ago '04        #305
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 abstractq said:
pharaohe monche been in video games b. . .
you remember any of his stuff being run during the nba playoffs though?
 7 years ago '04        #306
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 DaOmega_1 said:
Wasn't he signed to Universal at one point in his career?

And, didn't he just appear on Comedy Central's "Comedy Awards" along with Jon Cryer from "Two & a Half Men"?

WAR is a mainstream release?
Desire?

naw. . .
 7 years ago '05        #307
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 abstractq said:
with self produced videos, zero airplay and a tumblr?
Zero airplay?

You don't listen to alot of Satellite Radio, do you?

Also, even big artists are responsible for their own music videos, whether they choose to direct 'em themselves, or hire a director, it's in the artist's hands. So, not an apt comparison.
 7 years ago '04        #308
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 abstractq said:
with self produced videos, zero airplay and a tumblr?
 Shakezula714 said:
in Manhattan

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in LA

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indies must of step their game up then
 7 years ago '05        #309
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 abstractq said:
WAR is a mainstream release?
Desire?

naw. . .
Actually, Desire was a mainstream release. It was released through UMG. Actually, he ended up on UMG after there was a big bidding war to try and bring him to Shady.
 7 years ago '04        #310
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 DaOmega_1 said:
Zero airplay?

You don't listen to alot of Satellite Radio, do you?

Also, even big artists are responsible for their own music videos, whether they choose to direct 'em themselves, or hire a director, it's in the artist's hands. So, not an apt comparison.


so wait

a big push now consists of getting satellite radio play?

ANYTHING can and does get play on satellite radio. MF Doom gets play on satellite radio from time to time


its pretty simple really. . .If i dont can turn on MTV hip-hop and see your video ever
And cant turn on the radio and hear your song ever

you arent being marketed through mainstream channels


rofl. . .
 7 years ago '04        #311
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was signed to XL for a 1 album deal

Signed to RED/Sony distribution which will create Odd Future Records where they will own all of their own intellectual property, retain all of their masters, have 100% creative control of their music, art, release schedule

swag.
 7 years ago '05        #312
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 abstractq said:
so wait

a big push now consists of getting satellite radio play?

ANYTHING can and does get play on satellite radio. MF Doom gets play on satellite radio from time to time


its pretty simple really. . .If i dont can turn on MTV hip-hop and see your video ever
And cant turn on the radio and hear your song ever

you arent being marketed through mainstream channels


rofl. . .
No MTV?


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 7 years ago '04        #313
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Again

if i cant turn on the radio and hear your single

and i cant turn on MTV and see your video (ie the Yonkers video)

then you arent being marketed through mainstream channels

rofl@ pulling up the MTV spotlight on unknown artists as proof. . .hilarity
 7 years ago '11        #314
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goblin ?
 05-05-2011, 06:28 PM         #315
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 JayDawn said:
I'm not saying just to go out and do some stupid sh*t, commit crimes. What I am trying to tell you is do what the fu*k you want, stand for wtf you believe in and dont let nobody tell you you cant do wtf you want I'm a fu*king unicorn and fu*k anybody who says I'm not...Wolf....Gang
what?

im a grown man talking like that makes me think of odd future as a bigger joke
then i already do....
i know what there music is...its rebel music but theres nothing positive about it...dude just as negative as rappers only talkin fuqn hoes and slangin dope ..albums garbo
 7 years ago '10        #316
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 253xLonghair3 said:
what?

im a grown man talking like that makes me think of odd future as a bigger joke
then i already do....
i know what there music is...its rebel music but theres nothing positive about it...dude just as negative as rappers only talkin fuqn hoes and slangin dope ..albums garbo
lol thats a quote from the song my guy...Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours
 7 years ago '04        #317
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 abstractq said:
Again

if i cant turn on the radio and hear your single

and i cant turn on MTV and see your video (ie the Yonkers video)

then you arent being marketed through mainstream channels

rofl@ pulling up the MTV spotlight on unknown artists as proof. . .hilarity
i seen a dom kennedy video on mtv2 before and i don't think he is signed to anybody
 7 years ago '04        #318
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 justinjones said:
i seen a dom kennedy video on mtv2 before and i don't think he is signed to anybody
so?

my point is this. . .what exactly qualifies Goblin as a mainstream release?

they get no radio play
they get no video play
The dont have commercials, video game songs
Theyre on an indie label with plenty of other underground acts
Most people still dont know who they are outside of the internet
Theres no famous guest appearances on the album
No famous producers even giving them a beat
All the videos are self produced


All they have is a bunch of magazine covers on niche magazines and a Jimmy Fallon appearance
 7 years ago '05        #319
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..This A Mainstream Release? How? This Still On A Indie Scene Release.
 7 years ago '04        #320
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like i said indies must of stepped their game up with signs like that in manhanttan
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