Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron vs Durant - discussion thread (will be merged here)

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 4 years ago '12        #941
OC123 177 heat pts177
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 Cambury said:
this is one I dont get...he has more rebounds but he isnt a better rebounded. They won't address anything specific because they cant. Forget about points.

Someone explain to me why a dude that rebounds, steals and blocks more is a worse defender.

Lebron is the most overrated defender of all time, I just want someone to post footage of him applying pressure to someone. If you not a lockdown type defender then it has to be about stats.



And no matter what if you cant stop me how are you better if anything its equal. Lebron cannot stop Durant and Durant makes more defensive plays.
so defense is only blocks, steals, and rebounds? i know you're smarter than that, what about ball denial? what about how he defended tony parker in the finals last year? n*ggas got selective memory nowadays

 4 years ago '11        #942
bobby doobie 1 heat pts
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Kd is more entertaining to me, with lebron while he is on his way to being one of the best ever, is just not fun to watch outside of his a.ssists.
 4 years ago '04        #943
glepurple 5 heat pts
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Dudes also forget that kd had to be taken off bron cause he couldn't stay out of foul trouble in the finals.
 4 years ago '09        #944
The Bully 349 heat pts349
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 WestbankThugBoy said:
whether he "stops" them or not is depending on what you consider that to be.
"stop" is what fatbury's heart will do if he doesnt go on a diet
 4 years ago '07        #945
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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listen man at the end of the day Lebrons teammates make him better, no matter who Durant is playing with he can replicate everything he is doing. That means Durant is better. Better shooter, scorer and makes more defensive plays(as seen by stats) that means better player.
 01-27-2014, 11:03 PM         #946
SeaJaiye  OP
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social media era

man doesn't even have one mvp being compared to someone with 4 and 2 finals mvp's

did i mention bron beat this guy in the finals and made him cry 2 years ago???
 4 years ago '11        #947
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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 whothebestmc said:
he's averaging .2 more steals per game... calm your fat a.ss down.

Lebrons a better rebounder, not by much because kd has like 4 inches on him. Let me explain why, lebron and kd play two different ways when it comes to grabbing rebounds and leaking out on fast breaks, allowing kd to get more since lebron leaks out more.

But that's not enough so let me get to the good stuff:

The miami heat are last in the nba in field goal attempts per game with 76.8, while the thunder are in the middle of the pack with 82.8. They play at a faster pace and take 6 more shots per game. The miami heat are also 3rd in the nba in least fga for their opponents with 79 a game while okc gives up 84.4. So shots alone there is 11.4 more shots being taken in thunder games than miami games.

So to bring it all together: in total rebound percentage(percentage of available rebounds the player grabbed while on the floor) lebron is at 11.7% while kd is at 11.4%.

Oh and lebron is a far better defender stfu.



You think kobe is top 5 all time?

Lebron's already top 10.

Of course Kobe Is top 5 most people admit it who besides Jordan and Kareem can match his resume and only durant can match his skill on offense





If lebron is top ten he is exactly at 10
 4 years ago '09        #948
The Bully 349 heat pts349
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n*gga has a front office that's given him westbrook, harden, jeff green, serge ibaka, the best post defender in the league in kendrick perkins, a 20-point scorer in kevin martin, reggie jackson all in his first 7 seasons and hasnt gotten it done

who was lebron's best teammate in his first 7 seasons? mo williams?


the hypocrisy continues
 4 years ago '09        #949
The Bully 349 heat pts349
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 Kingpin 313 said:
Of course Kobe Is top 5 most people admit it who besides Jordan and Kareem can match his resume and only durant can match his skill on offense


If lebron is top ten he is exactly at 10
kobe's rings won as a sidekick: 3
jordan/kareem/lebron's rings won as a sidekick: 0


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 4 years ago '11        #950
whothebestmc 98 heat pts98
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 micseles said:
Theyre actually pretty much identical the last 3-4 years if I remember correctly.
In the last 3-4 years: lebron is at 12.2% of the total rebounds and kd is at 11.3%. Last year lebron was at 13.1% and kd was at 11.8%. Lebron is also a lot higher in the playoffs.
 4 years ago '04        #951
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 Cambury said:
listen man at the end of the day Lebrons teammates make him better, no matter who Durant is playing with he can replicate everything he is doing. That means Durant is better. Better shooter, scorer and makes more defensive plays(as seen by stats) that means better player.
don't even try to pull that sh*t

LeBron was the 2-time defending MVP BEFORE he came to Miami

people really reaching now -- lemme help you


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 4 years ago '11        #952
ZeusSlaps 774 heat pts774
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n*ggas in here arguing about rebounds durant got a better jumper thats it
 4 years ago '11        #953
whothebestmc 98 heat pts98
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 Kingpin 313 said:
Of course Kobe Is top 5 most people admit it who besides Jordan and Kareem can match his resume and only durant can match his skill on offense





If lebron is top ten he is exactly at 10
Kobe isn't top 5 though...

jordan/magic/russell/kareem/bird/duncan/wilt take your pick.


Lebron being at #10 isn't a bad thing when he's only 29

Although I think he's #9

 Prime Dilfer said:
Nobody cares about some bs rebound percentage.. Fact of the matter is KD is equal to or a better rebounder and his career averages say so. n*ggas wanna skew the stats for their arguments all the time I will fu*k all of you n*ggas
how is it bs

Lebron is slightly better. But the careers number say so?

Regular season
Lebron: 7.2 rpg
KD: 6.9 rpg

Postseason
Lebron: 8.6 rpg
KD: 8 rpg

If anything you are skewing the stats.


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 01-27-2014, 11:17 PM         #954
SeaJaiye  OP
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ppl saying durant a better rebounder than bron

ppl saying bron ain't top 5

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 4 years ago '11        #955
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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 SeaJaiye said:
social media era

man doesn't even have one mvp being compared to someone with 4 and 2 finals mvp's

did i mention bron beat this guy in the finals and made him cry 2 years ago???

He winning MVP this year though
 01-27-2014, 11:21 PM         #956
The Dark Kn1ght  OP
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how can you lose 4 finals with practically the most stacked squad and be top 5?????
 4 years ago '11        #957
ZeusSlaps 774 heat pts774
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 The Dark Kn1ght said:
how can you lose 4 finals with practically the most stacked squad and be top 5?????
 4 years ago '09        #958
The Bully 349 heat pts349
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kobe losing a Finals with Shaq, karl malone, gary payton and phil jackson as his coach automatically disqualifies him from any top 10 ranking

replace kobe with bron on that 2004 team and the lakers sweep the pistons
 4 years ago '07        #959
stogz 17 heat pts17
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Fact is, people don't judge Lebron based on him having a good month... or a couple scoring titles. When people judge Lebron, they go on his work over the past decade.

For morons that say LBJ's teammates make him better, it's a short sighted approach. LBJ's doesn't shoot 9-of-15 every night because other players put the ball in the hole for him. Yes, the end result is, he wins championships NOW. However, he scores less, shoots less, averages less boards and less rebounds... and for stat wh0ores like the people on this site, how does that help him be better in YOUR eyes? He also wins less games in the regular season now.

So answer me this...

You hate on Lebron now, because he has teammates and want to elevate Durant because he has none. However, when LBJ was in Cleveland, you hated on him there too. Seems to me that you people just want to hate on Lebron at all costs.
 4 years ago '11        #960
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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 The Bully said:
kobe's rings won as a sidekick: 3
jordan/kareem/lebron's rings won as a sidekick: 0


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You just exposed yourself Kareem was the sidekick for a couple of his rings magic got finals MVP that would make Kareem a sidekick right?



Lebron only got 2 rings and 2 finals MVP Kobe got 5 rings and 2 finals MVP fu*k you mean

 whothebestmc said:
Kobe isn't top 5 though...

jordan/magic/russell/kareem/bird/duncan/wilt take your pick.


Lebron being at #10 isn't a bad thing when he's only 29

Although I think he's #9

Russel and wilt not top 5 but that's my opnion I can't put people who played in a era with 10 teams and put up there numbers because they played against people who wasn't there size

Duncan is not better than Kobe that's why Kobe got best player of the decade over him and Kobe team beat Duncan team idk how many times in playoffs


Kobe had a Way better career than bird


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