Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron vs Durant - discussion thread (will be merged here)

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 4 years ago '04        #921
VictoryThagr8 6 heat pts
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 Cambury said:
but he did prove it on the bigger stage he outplayed lebron in the finals, heat were a better team. C'mon man yall gotta get better arguments
Heat was a better team?

Westbrook and wade canceled each other out.

Add they had James harden who got shut down by wade.
Bosh was injured that series and ibaka just won defensive player of the year.

Thunders were actually just as stack as the heats team and they lost in 5. Also Durant didn't outplayed lebron that series.
 4 years ago '12        #922
sOurxd i e s e 15 heat pts15
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 Cambury said:
but he did prove it on the bigger stage he outplayed lebron in the finals, heat were a better team. C'mon man yall gotta get better arguments
you're really the most retarded n*gga on this whole forum man, sh*t is incredible.
 4 years ago '09        #923
The Bully 349 heat pts349
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 Armen87 said:
lebron didn't prove it twice, one of them with a super team. what point you trying to make?
durat failed with his own superteam of harden and westbrook
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 4 years ago '13        #924
Hoop Dreams 179 heat pts179
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 P24B said:
Umm yes Durant is a better ball handler, he's 6'10 and can go coast to coast with ease, split doubles and pull up, cross up players, when was the last time you saw lebron actually pull off a nice set of ball handling moves one on one with a defender?

Ball handling doesn't equate to put ur head down and bullying your way through defenders, ball handling is your ability to get anywhere you want on the court with ur dribble (not size and shoulder) to get ur shot off. Durant actually crosses n*ggas up.


Once again, lebron Stan's can't even fathom the idea of KD being better. It physically hurts their souls.


They not ballers. They thing handles = putting your head down and going full speed to the basket.
 4 years ago '11        #925
whothebestmc 98 heat pts98
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 P24B said:
1. Better shooter by far with unlimited range
2. Better rebounder
3. Better ball handler
4. Way better in the clutch
5. Doesn't have an allstar team
6. Plays in the western conference (some nfl teams can beat some east nba teams)
7. Wayy better scorer
8. KD is younger
1. yep a way better shooter
2. not a better rebounder
3. kd has better handles hes not a better ball handler
4. They've both had their moments negative/postive in the "clutch"
5. they both have great teams..
6. irrelevant to the topic, lebron and the heat have beat the western conference's best 2 years in a row including kd
7. Not way better but yeah, less efficient though
8. irrelevant

nothing about defense but it's ok. Lebron's peers know hes the best in the league including kd. Why's it sooooo hard to accept that? Kd's time will come.


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 4 years ago '13        #926
Impeccable 198 heat pts198
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 Kingpin 313 said:
Durant always been better than lebron to people who understand and play basketball
I'm screamin


That's basically calling Durant a top 5 player of all time without accomplishments

Durant has never been better than Bron. He's a better shooter and rebounder. That's all.


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 4 years ago '11        #927
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 VictoryThagr8 said:
and ibaka just won defensive player of the year.
 4 years ago '13        #928
P24B 4 heat pts
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All lebron does better is defend (which he does very well) and playmake (however, KD has significantly improved his playmaking).

It's glaringly obvious Durant is better...
 4 years ago '05        #929
WestbankThugBoy 22 heat pts22
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the only separation I put between the two which ultimately keeps LeBron aheadof KD is defensive presence.

LeBron can literally guard all 5 positions and be effective in that.
 4 years ago '07        #930
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 Prime Dilfer said:
How is Durant not a better rebounder?
this is one I dont get...he has more rebounds but he isnt a better rebounded. They won't address anything specific because they cant. Forget about points.

Someone explain to me why a dude that rebounds, steals and blocks more is a worse defender.

Lebron is the most overrated defender of all time, I just want someone to post footage of him applying pressure to someone. If you not a lockdown type defender then it has to be about stats.



And no matter what if you cant stop me how are you better if anything its equal. Lebron cannot stop Durant and Durant makes more defensive plays.
 4 years ago '07        #931
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 WestbankThugBoy said:
the only separation I put between the two which ultimately keeps LeBron aheadof KD is defensive presence.

LeBron can literally guard all 5 positions and be effective in that.
stop with what someone "can" do. Show me who he has stopped.
 4 years ago '13        #932
Hoop Dreams 179 heat pts179
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 Prime Dilfer said:
How is Durant not a better rebounder?


If numbers cant prove that, i would love to hear the argument. These delusional fans. Numbers dont lie.
 4 years ago '12        #933
OC123 177 heat pts177
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 P24B said:
Umm yes Durant is a better ball handler, he's 6'10 and can go coast to coast with ease, split doubles and pull up, cross up players, when was the last time you saw lebron actually pull off a nice set of ball handling moves one on one with a defender?

Ball handling doesn't equate to put ur head down and bullying your way through defenders, ball handling is your ability to get anywhere you want on the court with ur dribble (not size and shoulder) to get ur shot off. Durant actually crosses n*ggas up.


Once again, lebron Stan's can't even fathom the idea of KD being better. It physically hurts their souls.
foh with that bullsh*t, lebron been playing point guard since high school, there was a time when durant couldnt even dribble up the court without getting ripped (mainly the finals against miami), ball handling is more than just fancy crossovers, durant has a better crossover while lebron has the better ball security
 4 years ago '05        #934
micseles 3 heat pts
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The correct answer to this would be because the average "fan" can only concentrate on one player at a time. Its inconceivable for them to appreciate two outlets of greatness at one time.

I think the better question is why cant people accept that their two entirely different players with different approaches to the game. They've achieved relatively the same regular season success team wise, stat totals are similar (KD heavy on the pts side, Bron heavy on the a.ssts side) only thing that validates Lebron's approach is the championships.

Would be interesting to see what perception wouldve been had Russy not went down and OKC made it to the finals and beat the Heat (making it Lebron 1 and KD 1)

Id say Lebron is still the better all around player but the gap gets closer and closer as the years pass.
 4 years ago '11        #935
clydes suit 16 heat pts16
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how many times kd gotta dribble the ball off his foot for n*ggas to stop hyping up them sloppy a.ss handles
 4 years ago '07        #936
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 OC123 said:
foh with that bullsh*t, lebron been playing point guard since high school, there was a time when durant couldnt even dribble up the court without getting ripped (mainly the finals against miami), ball handling is more than just fancy crossovers, durant has a better crossover while lebron has the better ball security
Lebron used to pick up his dribble whenever a big man hedged so stop it.
 4 years ago '09        #937
The Bully 349 heat pts349
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kobe stans in here saying stats like steals and blocks matter

but wade averaged more steals and blocks than kobe for years and never got first team defense over him and they had no problem with that

the hypocrisy continues
 4 years ago '07        #938
joshdogg26 193 heat pts193
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lebron's rebound % is and has historically been better than stickman's. there, numbers. boom.
 4 years ago '05        #939
WestbankThugBoy 22 heat pts22
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 Cambury said:
stop with what someone "can" do. Show me who he has stopped.
I didn't say "stopped", I said "guard".

He can defend against all positions, whether he "stops" them or not is depending on what you consider that to be.
 4 years ago '11        #940
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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 Impeccable said:
I'm screamin


That's basically calling Durant a top 5 player of all time without accomplishments

Durant has never been better than Bron. He's a better shooter and rebounder. That's all.


You think lebron is top 5 all time?
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