Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron vs Durant - discussion thread (will be merged here)

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 02-28-2012, 03:15 PM         #381
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 NLSP42 said:
Higher PPG
Higher steals per game
Higher free throw percentage...I mean come on
Higher 3 point percentage
Defensive player of the year>
Scoring titels>
Steals leader >
Ummmmm 6 rings> ohhhh no wait he said they are going to win 7 in a row :laughing19:
Field Goal percentage>
Finals MVP > OH wait....you have to win a finals to get that
All team defense >
Jordan never lost in the olympics>
Oh wait he also never lost in the finals

Bye Bye d!ck licker :hay:
all in the highest scoring/sh*tty defensive era of basketball with MAN defense

@ having to worry about getting past 1 short slow defender

mj had it made
 6 years ago '04        #382
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From the day he was drafted @ age 21 up until he was 27 when he made his first championship appearance and won his first championship Jordan averaged 31.5 pts 5.9 reb 5.5 ast and 2.7 stls, from age 18-27 Lebron has averaged 27.7 pts, 7.2 reb, 7.0 ast, and 1.7 stls, by the time they were 27 they both had two MVP's, but Jordan also had a Defensive player of the Year, at the age of 27 Jordan made and won his first NBA Finals, Lebron is 27 now and if you believe like I believe this year he will be in his 3rd NBA Finals and win his first if so and combined with the fact that he is having the best season in NBA history based on efficiency rating with a 33.27 of course he would have to finish the season that way, the highest single season efficiency rating is Jordan in 87-88 with a 31.71 the NBA did not start tracking turnovers until 1977, if Lebron can end the season that way I think we have to consider whether there has ever been a player to accomplish the things Lebron has at the age he has done it at.

I just wanted to get you guy's opinion on this.
 6 years ago '07        #383
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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n*ggas is desperate
 6 years ago '06        #384
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enough

inb4kobeisbetter()
 6 years ago '11        #385
elvisfreshly 106 heat pts106
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but kobe is better

and no im not a kobe stan cuz i hate all these n*ggas

AI >>>>>>>
 6 years ago '08        #386
bkid 126 heat pts126
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didnt know Lebron's efficency rating this season was the highest in nba history
 6 years ago '04        #387
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 Cambury said:
n*ggas is desperate
You sayin this is not a valid discussion one thing you can say about Lebron is when he was in the finals @ 22 he disappointed also @ 26 he disappointed, but the fact does remain that when he was in Cleveland the best player he ever played with was Mo Williams, and not even Jordan could question his character on these things because he was never under such stress cause he was not able to make his first finals until he 27, and he was playing with Pippen since age 24, these are the facts and I would like to discuss them.
 6 years ago '04        #388
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Unless things have changed around here most people look at seasons played instead of age.
 6 years ago '07        #389
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
You sayin this is not a valid discussion one thing you can say about Lebron is when he was in the finals @ 22 he disappointed also @ 26 he disappointed, but the fact does remain that when he was in Cleveland the best player he ever played with was Mo Williams, and not even Jordan could question his character on these things because he was never under such stress cause he was not able to make his first finals until he 27, and he was playing with Pippen since age 24, these are the facts and I would like to discuss them.
compare lebrons first 10 final games to wades first 12 finals games
 6 years ago '04        #390
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 bkid said:
didnt know Lebron's efficency rating this season was the highest in nba history
You know now, thats what I am here for to present the facts, Barkley knows but he want say it cause he wants to look like a genius, instead he will say Lebron is playing better than anyone he has seen play since a young Jordan, but I have heard him put Lebron into questiuon unfairly in years past, Ive also known his accomplishments were unique to the world for years, if he does more or accomplishes more by age 27 than Jordan, than no one has the right to question him, if Jordan can not question him on something cause he did not have to deal with that stress at that age no one can.
 6 years ago '04        #391
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 PG-13 said:


enough

inb4kobeisbetter()
In order to qualify you would have had to be the leader of your team and Shaq was the leader of that team, I remember a Kobe Bryant in between Shaq and Gasol that could not get out the first round gave up on his team one game and refused to shoot the ball, and I remember him getting off a private plane in Chicago cause he was considering leaving the Lakers and always demanding a trade or trying to trade his teammates, kobe fans have short term memory, Kobe could not do what Lebron did with that Cavilers Team, the best player he ever played with there was Mo Williams.
 6 years ago '05        #392
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Jordan didn't have a wade and a bosh in his first 3 peat
 6 years ago '05        #393
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
In order to qualify you would have had to be the leader of your team and Shaq was the leader of that team, I remember a Kobe Bryant in between Shaq and Gasol that could not get out the first round gave up on his team one game and refused to shoot the ball, and I remember him getting off a private plane in Chicago cause he was considering leaving the Lakers and always demanding a trade or trying to trade his teammates, kobe fans have short term memory, Kobe could not do what Lebron did with that Cavilers Team, the best player he ever played with there was Mo Williams.
Kobe in his prime in the eastern conference would have easily been as successful as bron that year

The east was a complete joke after the 2005 pistons. The Celtics were the only elite team Bron had to face

The West in 07-08 had all 8 teams in the playoffs with above 50 wins
 6 years ago '04        #394
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 elvisfreshly said:
but kobe is better

and no im not a kobe stan cuz i hate all these n*ggas

AI >>>>>>>
AI is a player I personally consider better than Kobe and one of the greatest players of all time, here is a player who is takin the toughest shots @ 6'0 170, but will lead the league in scoring, no one that size has ever been able to or will ever be able to do the same, plus he is part of my unique 4 along with Kidd, Lebron, and Barkley, as the only players I have ever seen in a NBA Finals with out another Hall of Famer to a.ssist them, when it comes to the modern Pistons and Spurs, I dont think the Pistons had one Hall of Famer, and the Spurs I know at least for one of their rings only had 1 Hall of Famer, but their teams were to stacked top to bottom in order for me to consider one of their players for my unique team.
 6 years ago '04        #395
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 Bea5T said:
Kobe in his prime in the eastern conference would have easily been as successful as bron that year

The east was a complete joke after the 2005 pistons. The Celtics were the only elite team Bron had to face

The West in 07-08 had all 8 teams in the playoffs with above 50 wins
Kobe could not beat the Pistons with Shaq, Lebron did it the next year dolo solo and it took 7 games and that game 7 performance is the most dominant performance I have ever witnessed by an in individual player in my personal opinion.
 6 years ago '04        #396
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 Cambury said:
compare lebrons first 10 final games to wades first 12 finals games
Wade was able to use a Shaq who averaged 18 and 10 in the playoffs as a distraction, givin that to use as a distraction there is no tellin what Lebron could have achieved especially in his first finals @ 22 against San Antonio.
 03-03-2012, 01:44 PM         #397
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
AI is a player I personally consider better than Kobe and one of the greatest players of all time, here is a player who is takin the toughest shots @ 6'0 170, but will lead the league in scoring, no one that size has ever been able to or will ever be able to do the same, plus he is part of my unique 4 along with Kidd, Lebron, and Barkley, as the only players I have ever seen in a NBA Finals with out another Hall of Famer to a.ssist them, when it comes to the modern Pistons and Spurs, I dont think the Pistons had one Hall of Famer, and the Spurs I know at least for one of their rings only had 1 Hall of Famer, but their teams were to stacked top to bottom in order for me to consider one of their players for my unique team.
dont forget ai scored so much because he shot so much, i think with all the super fast point gaurds of today ai wouldn't have been as successful, and mt mutumbo(ai's borderline hof teamate) wll eventually make HoF if this gold scam clears up
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 wheezyfbaby said:
Unless things have changed around here most people look at seasons played instead of age.
I like to use age as a comparison because it seems more fair, when u compare two men, man to man, which is what I aim doing here, its not Lebrons fault Jordan was not as good as him ages 18-21, he needed more development, but this is a man to man comparison and there are no excuses.
 6 years ago '05        #399
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
Kobe could not beat the Pistons with Shaq, Lebron did it the next year dolo solo and it took 7 games and that game 7 performance is the most dominant performance I have ever witnessed by an in individual player in my personal opinion.

Pistons made the finals the next year

check your facts

Bron beat them in 07(3 years after the pistons beat the lakers) then proceeded to get swept by the spurs, what does that tell you about that pistons team?

and it was game 6 not 7 where Lebron took over

you have no idea what you are talking about
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
Wade was able to use a Shaq who averaged 18 and 10 in the playoffs as a distraction, givin that to use as a distraction there is no tellin what Lebron could have achieved especially in his first finals @ 22 against San Antonio.
So wats the reason him playing so poorly last year? It wasn't even like one game he got his a.ss bust on both sides of the ball for a series. That was an exposure if there ever was one.
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