Kobe vs Jordan vs LeBron vs Durant - discussion thread (will be merged here)

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 6 years ago '05        #201
Greece 8 heat pts
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Good Post but you will never end the argument.
 02-08-2012, 02:58 PM         #202
Ca$h Out  OP
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Nver knew kobe took that many 3's, or maybe mike just didn't take that many. sh*t is impressive on mike's part.
 6 years ago '04        #203
torious 69 heat pts69
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please no, not this thread again
 6 years ago '07        #204
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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the numbers mean nothing when you talk about great players...MJ is not different than the ones before him

once you become great, championships determines who was the best (assuming that you play the same part that u do regular season in that run esp. Finals series)


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 6 years ago '05        #205
BronxBombers 195 heat pts195
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Man if MJ didn't leave the NBA for Baseball His Numbers would be insane and I'm sure he would have 7 rings or more
 6 years ago '05        #206
TheT 21 heat pts21
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 iamsoulja said:
CAREER SEASON TOTALS

Kobe- 28,601 points, 41,119 mins, 21,969 Fg attempts, 4,312 3-pt attempts, 8,584 Ft a

Jordan- 32,292 points, 41,011 mins, 24,537 Fg attempts, 1,778 3-pt attempts, 8,772 Ft a

Jordan only took 223 more shooting attempts than Kobe


That looks like 2,568 more to me.
 02-08-2012, 03:08 PM         #207
Nate187um  OP
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now imagine kobe doing this in mj's era

you know the highest scoring era of basketball

41,119 mins, 21,969 Fg attempts, 4,312 3-pt attempts

 6 years ago '09        #208
iamsoulja 190 heat pts190
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 MPLSallstar said:
I never realized how little Jordan took the 3, and how much Kobe did. Kobe took more than twice as many which is pretty crazy.

Jordan only shot over 100 3's 6 times in his career

Kobe over a 100 3's every year
 6 years ago '11        #209
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 Rico23 said:

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:iough:
 6 years ago '04        #210
A.G 27 heat pts27
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 iamsoulja said:
i added all jordans fg's, 3 Pt and Ft attempts together the subtracted it with kobe's
3 point field goals count as field goals, genius.

If you take and miss a 3 point shot, you're not 0/0 from the field and 0/1 from 3.
 02-08-2012, 05:09 PM         #211
Nate187um  OP
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lol jordanites get quiet when they see the 3,000 fga lead mj has on kobe

kind of puts that "jordan did this and that in less games" argument to rest even though he still STARTED more

& kobe has had multiple seasons of 200+ 300+ 400+ and 500+ 3pa seasons avg 279 a season for his career

people stay comparing their fg% when their not even attempting shots from the same range really

smh idiots
 02-08-2012, 05:40 PM         #212
SeaJaiye  OP
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3,000 shots got dam
 02-08-2012, 05:48 PM         #213
Nate187um  OP
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 SeaJaiye said:
3,000 shots got dam
but he wasn't a ball hog
 6 years ago '09        #214
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 Nate187um said:
but he wasn't a ball hog
when Kobe passes MJ in points he's gonna have to take more shots to do so anyways so i don't see the point lol he scored a sh*t load of points on great efficiency better efficiency than Kobe ever has. Why you always go out of your way to hate MJ when both he and your idol Kobe were great
 02-08-2012, 08:38 PM         #215
Nate187um  OP
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 thegoldenhero said:
when Kobe passes MJ in points he's gonna have to take more shots to do so anyways so i don't see the point lol he scored a sh*t load of points on great efficiency better efficiency than Kobe ever has. Why you always go out of your way to hate MJ when both he and your idol Kobe were great

yeah dunks/lay-ups and close jumpers are pretty efficient

a huge benefit of the MAN DEFENSE during the highest scoring era of basketball
 6 years ago '04        #216
chirpflare 175 heat pts175
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fu*k MJ and his 37%
 6 years ago '09        #217
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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 Nate187um said:
yeah dunks/lay-ups and close jumpers are pretty efficient

a huge benefit of the MAN DEFENSE during the highest scoring era of basketball
so we gonna pretend MJ didn't have one of the best mid range shot of all time? i swear you are extremely bias
 02-08-2012, 09:15 PM         #218
Nate187um  OP
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 lostkauze said:
because teams play so much zone defense in the league and its so successful...
cant think of any other reason why scoring dropped when they allowed zone

and show me any player stating its easier/they prefer to score against zone vs man defense

dont worry i'll wait
 6 years ago '04        #219
Kush Charasi 25 heat pts25
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PLAYOFF GAMES

Kobe-208 played, 188 started

Jordan-179 played, 179 started




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 6 years ago '06        #220
philly337 21 heat pts21
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Lol @ the since defense argument barely anybody plays and going to act like Jordan didn't play with these rules when he came back as a broken down old man and still was putting up 20+ on 45% shooting

 philly337 said:
the zone defense didn't barely do anything :
Dead:

Scoring went up after the rule changes

97 - 96.9
98 - 95.6
99 - 91.6
00 - 97.5
01 - 94.8

****RULE CHANGE****

02 - 95.5
03 - 95.1
04 - 93.4

**** RULE CHANGE****

05 - 97.2
06 - 97.0
07 - 98.7
08 - 99.9
09 - 100.0
10 - 100.4
11 - 99.6

scoring champions

97 - 29.6
98 - 28.7
99 - 26.8
00 - 29.7
01 - 31.1

Average of 29.2

****RULE CHANGE****

02 - 31.4
03 - 32.1
04 - 28.0

Average of 30.5 (an increase)

**** RULE CHANGE****

05 - 30.7
06 - 35.4
07 - 31.6
08 - 30.0
09 - 30.2
10 - 30.1
11 - 27.7

Average of 30.8 (another increase)


so get the fu*k out of here with that zone sh*t because that last 5 years before the rule change teams averaged 95.3 ppg with the scoring champ averaging 29.2 ppg and since the rule change teams average 97.7 ppg (a 2+ point increase) with the scoring champ averaging 30.7 ppg (a 1.5 point increase)

Go ahead and dig sh*t up from the 80's that got nothing to do with your zone defense argument

And I didn't even put up the to players ppg that played late 90s early 00s (before and after the rule changes) and how their sh*t started the same or got better
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