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 7 years ago '05        #101
Dun Language 3970 heat pts3970
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Who cares about mj hes retired

If he wants beef wit bean tell him to lace it up for fall back
 04-30-2011, 02:42 PM         #102
Youngray22  OP
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 JOE PESCI said:
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He ain't doing this today. D12 would put him on his back. WHy you always on Kobe d!ck? Did Lebron break your heart so now you trying to rebound?
 04-30-2011, 02:43 PM         #103
Youngray22  OP
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 Sheeed said:
Lol you Tobe stans are disgusting...
I agree.
 04-30-2011, 02:43 PM         #104
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 CashNy said:
Who cares about mj hes retired

If he wants beef wit bean tell him to lace it up for fall back
When you build a time machine and Get MJ in his prime....


Like MJ said " I wouldn't have let him drop 81".
 7 years ago '07        #105
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 Youngray22 said:
When you build a time machine and Get MJ in his prime....


Like MJ said " I wouldn't have let him drop 81".
you have to finish the quote...he also said he woulda had 6 fouls and used them ALL, dont make it seem as if old man was gonna shut him down
 7 years ago '04        #106
enetblazin4eva 4 heat pts
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The Zen Master loves trollin the stans/haters.......... :dancingcool:
 7 years ago '04        #107
Young Professa 11 heat pts11
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 dre03 said:
M... Shut yo lying a.ss up u nust have been 2 when Jordan won his first ring... Otherwise u would know Magic was not past his prime when he lost to Jordan... That season was the most he played in a few seasons and was one of his best statistical years and he came in 2nd behind Jordan for MVP... There is no way you can sit here and tell me u watched the Jordan era and dont remember the headlines saying who is the real MVP in that finals... Magic balled his a.ss off that year... It was the most anticipated match up ever in the Finals...The two best players in the sport...

And Retard when we say competition... Nobody is talking about defending one on one... They are talking about winning and losing... Like when u say Barkley, Malone, Ewing, Stockton, Gary Payton, Clyde didnt win a championship because of Jordan... Ur not saying because Jordan shut them down dumbass... Ur saying because Jordan didnt allow his team to lose... Thats what is meant by competition...
first of all, there isn't a single tough bone in your entire anatomy to talk to grown ups over the internet lil man. secondly when you mention competition i interpret it as man-on-man within a basketball game, as some people would. to me you can't match up star players unless they're guarding each other. but with that being said, the list of competition kobe's played against in the past and present most will be future HOF's so, it's impossible to say right now as of the moment.
 7 years ago '06        #108
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You Jordan stans are disgusting
 7 years ago '08        #109
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Can't we just make an offical thread of this so we don't have hundreds of threads debating this issue.
 04-30-2011, 04:03 PM         #110
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I'm a fan a both, but Jordan>Kobe. Everyone seems to forget MJ took an entire season off to go play baseball, i mean come on...then came back to still dominate (are you kidding me). Granted they lost to Orlando in the playoffs, but 3peat after that. Who's to say that they wouldn't have one a 4th title had he not retired for that season. I'm just saying...
 7 years ago '06        #111
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 7 years ago '07        #112
Adam Is BeTTeR 2 heat pts
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
damn your stupid 1 kobe has already won 2 titles witout shaq as leader of the team so yes he won without shaq.

2 jordan NEVER DID ANYTHING WITOUT PIPPEN AND NEVER HAD TO PLAY WITH A TEAM THAT KOBE HAD POST SHAQ ERA SO U DONT KNOW WHAT MJ WOULD DO.

3. jordan during his last 14 and 15 season couldnt make the fu*king 8th seed in fu*king east with more then enough talent to do that.

4. finals mvp doesnt mean u won everything by yourself IF U ACTUALLY WATCH THE GAMES ALOT OF OTHER BULLS MADE HUGE KEY PLAYS TO WIN GAMES CLOSE OUT GAMES SO JUST CAUSE U WON MVP DONT MEAN U WON THE WHOLE SERIES BY YOURSELF.

5. and 5 go look at the numbers kobe scored and avg damn near the exact same amount of points as shaq did. 2. kobe won us mult finals games wen shaq was on the bench
kobe was never a side kick if u looking at numbers and impact compare to mj and pippen who was clearly always number 2. there were at least debates when u talking bout kobe and shaq. but u dont care bout facts or look at facts u just talk

bottom line is kobe is 1a.99 to jordan 1 super close very close.


Your really going to get at him when he was at the end of his career? Jordan was like fu*king FORTY, and still...he almost, made the playoffs.

More than enough talent? Who did he have on that Wizards roster? Christian Laetthner? Charles Oakley? Stackhouse? gtfoh and everyone else on that team was young. Young = inexperienced.

Obviously not d!ck face, every team has several players that step up and make key plays. Avery Johnson for the Spurs in 00 Finals, Derek Fisher, Horry for the lakers and even for the Spurs in the finals against the Pistons, Leon Powe had some key moments against the Lakers in the first Finals too and there's plenty more. Like I said, every team has a time where players step up and have key moments but at the end of the day though what does M-V-P mean??

are you really this fu*king dumb? Pau and Bynum isn't anything? Do you remember how the league first reacted when ya' got Pau? A very skilled smart big man, why are you trying to put Pau down like he's a David Lee caliber kind of player. When ya' first got Pau, it put the Lakers over the top, took you guys to the Finals. Pau is a top 5, possibly top 3 PF in the NBA.

fu*k stats, I don't give a sh*t for them, they can be misleading. Watch the damn game and then you'd be able to speak the REAL truth and state FACTS.

Yeah, I know Kobe was good and there were games where they both did good, but at the end of the day though statistically there was something that one did better than the other, which lead to getting MVP.

So are we forgetting that Larry Bird went to the hack-a-Shaq strategy? Remember how many free throws he shot in game 2? Wasn't Kobe dealing with a bad ankle and missed a game during the Pacers series?

They show game 1 against the 6ers almost every time on NBATV, in the fourth quarter Shaq dominated and brought his team back. I don't even need to bring up the Nets, Shaq dominated that series and didn't he have a triple double in one of them?

But if you want me to look back at stats, then I'll post them for you to look at as well...

Game 1 vs Pacers:

Shaq: 43 pts (1-6 FTs), 19 rbs, 4 ast, 3 blks, 0 stls, .677 fg%

Kobe: 14 pts (3-5 FTs), 3, 5, 2 blks, 1 stl, .462 fg%

Game 2 vs Pacers:

Shaq: 46 pts (18-39 FTs), 24 rbs, 4 ast, 3 blks, 0 stls, .611 fg%

Kobe: 2 pts (0-0 FTs), 1 rb, 4 ast, 1 blk, 0 stls, .333 fg% < 9 MP, 1 FL

Game 3 vs Pacers:

Shaq: 33 pts (3-13 FTs), 13 rbs, 1 ast, 2 blks, 2 stls, .625 fg%

Kobe: didn't play because of ankle

Game 4 vs Pacers:

Shaq: 36 pts (10-17 FTs), 21 rbs, 1 ast, 2 stls, 2 blks, .520 fg%

Kobe: 28 pts (0-0 FTs), 4 rbs, 5 ast, 1 stl, 2 blks, .519 fg%

Game 5 vs Pacers:

Shaq: 35 pts (1-6 FTs), 11 rbs, 3 ast, 2 stls, 2 blks, .630 fg%

Kobe: 8 pts (0-0 FTs), 5 rbs, 3 ast, 2 stls, 0 blks, .200 fg% (4-20)

Game 6 vs Pacers:

Shaq: 41 pts (3-12 FTs), 12 rbs, 1 ast, 0 stls, 4 blks, .594 fg%

Kobe: 26 pts (8-9 FTs), 10 rbs, 4 ast, 1 stls, 2 blks, .296% (8-27)
Game 1 vs Sixers:

Shaq: 44 pts (10-22 FTs), 20 rbs, 5 ast, 1 stl, 0 blks, .607 fg%

Kobe: 15 pts (1-1 FTs), 3 rbs, 5 ast, 1 stl, 3 blks, .318 fg% (7-22)

Game 2 vs Sixers:

Shaq: 28 pts (4-10 FTs), 20 rbs, 9 ast, 1 stl, 8 blks, .632 fg%

Kobe: 31 pts (8-8 FTs), 8 rbs, 6 ast, 2 stls, 2 blks, .478 fg%

Shaq almost had a quadruple double, damn...

Game 3 vs Sixers:

Shaq: 30 pts (8-9 FTs), 12 rbs, 3 ast, 0 stls, 4 blks, .550 fg%

Kobe: 32 pts (6-6 FTs), 6 rbs, 3 ast, 2 stls, 0 blks, .433 fg%

Game 4: vs Sixers:

Shaq: 34 pts (8-16 FTs), 14 rbs, 5 ast, 0 stls, 0 blks, .520 fg%

Kobe: 19 pts (7-12 FTs), 10 rbs, 9 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, .462 fg%

Game 5 vs Sixers:

Shaq: 29 pts (9-19 FTs), 13 rbs, 2 ast, 0 stls, 5 blks, .556 fg%

Kobe: 26 pts (10-11 FTs), 12 rbs, 6 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, .389 fg% (7-18)


Game 1 vs Nets:

Shaq: 36 pts (12-21 FTs), 16 rbs, 1 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, .545 fg%

Kobe: 22 pts (10-11 FTs), 3 rbs, 6 ast, 1 stl, 0 blk, .375 fg% (6-16)

Game 2 vs Nets:

Shaq: 40 pts (12-14 FTs), 12 rbs, 8 ast, 0 stl, 1 blk, .609 fg%

Kobe: 24 pts (3-4 FTs), 8 rbs, 3 ast, 2 stls, 1 blks, .600 fg%

Game 3 vs Nets:

Shaq: 35 pts (11-17 FTs), 11 rbs, 2 ast, 0 stls, 4 blks, .632 fg%

Kobe: 36 pts (7-10 FTs), 6 rbs, 4 ast, 1 stl, 2 blks, .609 fg%

Game 4 vs Nets:

Shaq: 34 pts (10-16 FTs), 10 rbs, 4 ast, 1 stl, 2 blks, .600 fg%

Kobe: 25 pts (9-11 FTs), 6 rbs, 8 ast, 2 stls, 0 blks, .438 fg%
Kobe is just a selfish fu*k, he didn't want to coexist with Shaq, he wanted to be the face of the franchise and NBA. And he knew people were saying that he (Kobe) couldn't win without Shaq, and he couldn't deal with that. He wanted to prove people wrong.

Only time and reason why Shaq wasn't on the floor was because of foul trouble.

@ the end of the day, Kobe is a great player...of course. But he couldn't/ can't do it alone. No one can in this era, he didn't get another ring until Gasol was brought on board, but after Shaq was traded and before Gasol arrived to LA, they (Lakers) weren't the same team that we've seen over the years in this era. But you're a Laker' fan though, so of course you're going to have a bit of a bias opinion. Me, I can careless about Kobe, and Jordan. Don't like or dislike either. But respect both of them, Kobe has amazing work ethic and he-is the closest to Jordan, in sense of his style of play and that's because he patterns his game after him.
 7 years ago '09        #113
JewsusChrist 211 heat pts211
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mj sh*ts on kobe

kobe stans r retarded as fuk

wow.
 7 years ago '05        #114
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Who knows both these players better than the coach that coached them both.....and is about to lead the other to his 6th championship?

at the end of the day.....all you jordan and kobe fans/haters need to stop arguing about this every single day like some morons.....

if Phil Jackson says that Kobe is as good as michael which he has and this is not the first time he's said it......then guess what HE IS .....there's no other persons opinion that you can take as serious as PHIL's

close this fu*king thread man
 7 years ago '10        #115
LORD PLISSKEN 15 heat pts15
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this thread was a wrap after homie posted the comparison pic
 7 years ago '10        #116
LORD PLISSKEN 15 heat pts15
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MJ>

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 04-30-2011, 05:22 PM         #117
illicitx  OP
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Survey says!

Kobe > Jordan

That's all folks!
 7 years ago '07        #118
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When will you Kobe supporters just stop Yall n*ggaz are the worst I swear. Yall the only n*ggaz who truly care or get mad about this comparison sh*t. The MJ supporters who post in here are laughing at u n*ggaz like I do on the daily, while yall are on google images and photoshop trying to post pics to be funny or take attention away from the facts. The only reason I even entertain you n*ggaz is cuz I'm bored and know I'll get in some laughs by posting in here. I have yet to get into a good debate with one of u fu*k's and frankly, I'm tired of owning u n*ggaz in these threads! That's why I refuse to post some thoughtful and relevant sh*t with this post, cuz at this moment I feel like its a waste. See my posts from all prev 300 threads where u n*ggaz got son'd! Once yall stans stop making these threads, the sooner everyone will see who the real insecure n*ggaz are on here
 04-30-2011, 08:19 PM         #119
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n*ggas got the picture now like baam theres the numbers now shut the fu*k up hoe
 7 years ago '04        #120
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 LQQKIN4PAY said:
at the end of the day what can mike do that kobe can't do????
Win without a low post presence...
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