Uh oh : Phil jackson : Kobe is as good as michael david stern mvps dont matter theyre the same convo

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 7 years ago '07        #41
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 MPLSallstar said:
Says something about Kobe's competition in contrast to Michael's, no?
no,it says more about kobe's teams.he as arguably played wit tha leagues best front courts damn near his whole career
 7 years ago '04        #42
samclo 9 heat pts
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Its clear that phil and everyone else who's said kobe is better/on the same level as jordan isn't using stats as a deciding factor. Now if we're talkin about skill,clutch,toughness, and so on, u can't say kobe is not on the same level. and if u do well k!ll yaself
 7 years ago '05        #43
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 sonof504 said:
Kobe won the MVP award when Chris Paul obviously deserved it.

fu*k the NBA.
Like Steve Nash aint steal Kobe's??

Fact of the matter is...Phil is right...MVP's are a media thing...not a competitive indicator.

But i guess if Phil Jackson saying they are 1a and 1b doesnt mean anything...i mean, what's he know?:agreement6::agreement6:
 7 years ago '04        #44
Young Professa 11 heat pts11
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JOE PESCI again.
 7 years ago '05        #45
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 r.burgundy said:
no,it says more about kobe's teams.he as arguably played wit tha leagues best front courts damn near his whole career
Who besides Shaq???

Was it the declining Horry? Was it the declining Horace Grant? Maybe it was Mark Madsen...

Dont even try to say pau gasol. Kobe has MADE pau, yeah i said it. There's a reason the Grizzlies are celebrating their first playoff win, let alone series. Pau was never a franchise player in memphis, he couldnt lead them to sh*t. Kobe helped elevate his game...no denying


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 7 years ago '05        #46
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 samclo said:
Its clear that phil and everyone else who's said kobe is better/on the same level as jordan isn't using stats as a deciding factor. Now if we're talkin about skill,clutch,toughness, and so on, u can't say kobe is not on the same level. and if u do well k!ll yaself
This. Don't be blind people
 7 years ago '09        #47
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I pissed on the ground a little bit this morning
 7 years ago '08        #48
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 7 years ago '05        #49
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Stats mean sh*t bean is my heart I love just to watch him play

Monday can't get here quick enough
 7 years ago '04        #50
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 CashNy said:
Stats mean sh*t bean is my heart I love just to watch him play

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 04-30-2011, 10:05 AM         #51
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 MPLSallstar said:
Says something about Kobe's competition in contrast to Michael's, no?
The same comp that allowed him to drop 50 points at age 40 and average 20 at the same age. Kobe hasnt been shaq sidekick for some time and hes average over 30 pts 2 times while MJ did it 8
 7 years ago '06        #52
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 VCMJ1523 said:
How are you a better scorer when you have 2 scoring titles lmao.
because allen iverson and tracy mcgrady didnt do anything but shoot 30+ times a game
 7 years ago '07        #53
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 astroblack9 said:
Who besides Shaq???

Was it the declining Horry? Was it the declining Horace Grant? Maybe it was Mark Madsen...

Dont even try to say pau gasol. Kobe has MADE pau, yeah i said it. There's a reason the Grizzlies are celebrating their first playoff win, let alone series. Pau was never a franchise player in memphis, he couldnt lead them to sh*t. Kobe helped elevate his game...no denying
i said best frontcourt,not best player.
pau,bynum,odom,artest is 1 of tha leagues top 3 frontcourt

and any frontcourt wit prime shaq is automatically top 2.and how was horry declinin?he wasnt even 30 when they won that 1st ring
 7 years ago '04        #54
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 JOE PESCI said:
HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! COUNTER THREAD!!!!





dead: at stern admitting mvps are full of sh*t and that people who use them in the argument have no validation


actually fu*k both kobe is better not the same


better ball handler


better denfender

better mid range

better passer

better scorer

better range

better three point shooter

more natural talent

more skills

everything except plaming the ball and posting up on inferior undersized unathletic players kobe excells in. and your a fu*king c*ckless moron with bad hygeine if u dont agree

and fu*k all u n*ggas under 27 talking bout kobe stans didnt see mj play u dumb bi*ches u didnt see mj play. im old as the bullys moms genital warts and i saw him since his rookie season every game he played damn near and its not even close.kobe makes that n*gga look like a rought draft or pre rough draft even. the eras they played in are laughable in comparison. 80s ball was a free jumpshooting nonathletic exhibition i love that thread big dee posted showing how pathetic defense was back then. another truth jab thrown in the hate filled media brainwashed c*ck tasting mj drone nation


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U do realize neither one of them said Kobe was better... I guess u dont realize the as good as statement pits the last person as the superior... When you say something is as good as something you are perceiving the latter as being better and simply comparing something to it...

U will never see anyone saying Jordan is as good as _______... It will always be ______ is as good as Jordan... It is a comparison to a superior u dumbass...

If Kobe is better at everything you named then Jordan please tell me why Jordan owns 30 times more records than Kobe... Eventually your talent and skills have to show something...
 7 years ago '04        #55
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 ktbballplaya said:
The same comp that allowed him to drop 50 points at age 40 and average 20 at the same age. Kobe hasnt been shaq sidekick for some time and hes average over 30 pts 2 times while MJ did it 8
Technically he was 38 when he dropped 51 on N.O and he dropped 43 on the Nets when he was 40.
 7 years ago '04        #56
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 ktbballplaya said:
The same comp that allowed him to drop 50 points at age 40 and average 20 at the same age. Kobe hasnt been shaq sidekick for some time and hes average over 30 pts 2 times while MJ did it 8
Do me a favor and tell me one season where jordan had to share the ball with anyone but himself?
 7 years ago '04        #57
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 j_k1dd said:
I can see u missed the significance, put it this way... Kobe came in as pippen, 8 years as pippen, and by the 5th year him and shaq already began to butt heads because he wanted ro be Jordan. So unlike pippen he didn't want to just fall back, kobe knew his potential for greatness and shaq was stoping him from that. Thats how jordan would have been too had he been drafted on a team with an established #1 option
Even as a leader of his team... Kobe's best years are Jordan's worst years... End that discussion
 7 years ago '04        #58
Young Professa 11 heat pts11
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i love it when people bring jordan's competition to the likes of Bird and Magic. first of all jordan never defended or was defended by either of them them by position, except a few game possesions. second of all as jordan progressed into his prime years, they were both well past their primes. and third, when magic and bird were in their prime years, neither was a defensive stopper by any strecth of the imagination.


so can we please cease the bullsh*t about jordan vs magic/bird when justifying his competition? how about starks, marjele, ainge, richmond, drexler, hornececk, ehlo, and other sg's that kobe would drop 40+ on respectively?

you ain't fooling me....i grew up thru the entire jordan era. stats never tell the entire story


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 04-30-2011, 10:23 AM         #59
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 CaliIsActive said:
Jordan stanleys are already feeling insecure as fuk

Just imagin when Kobe breaks all how records I'n 2-3 years

Sh1t won't even be comparable
It's like half these fu*kers didn't even watch a Jordan game, they just saw their alcoholic father beating their ugly mother while the black and white television was showing clips of Jordan in the background and them ugly little f*ggots didn't have the balls to tell their pops to change the channel.

n*ggas were traumatized going to elementary school and sh*t, raising their hand every 5 minutes to tell their teacher that Jordan was the GOAT. Little niglets were forced to love Jordan like he was a cartoon character or some sh*t.
 7 years ago '04        #60
dre03 
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 samclo said:
Do me a favor and tell me one season where jordan had to share the ball with anyone but himself?
So ur admitting Jordan was the Bulls entire offense?? He was their best low post and perimeter player...

I can name you dozens of players who didnt have to share the ball with other players and they didnt achieve Jordan numbers while winning...

Kobe has never had to be his team's entire offense... When Jordan wasnt on the floor his team struggles... Majority of the teams Kobe have been on they only need him for the last minute of the game... They can blow out most opponents but in tight games they need Kobe... Jordan didnt have that luxury... His team needed him every quarter...
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