7 Reasons Why Jay-Z can never be GOAT.

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 7 years ago '07        #1
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1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177
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7 Reasons Why Jay-Z can never be GOAT.
 

 
1. His lyrically ability is a joke compared to other GOATS like Nas, Em, Rakim, Stacks etc. Jay hasn't been lyrical for almost a decade which i think was caused by his wealth and his efforts being focused primarily on his businesses instead of his rap game.

2. He seems ok with his mediocrity. He released BP3 which is on some Wiz Khalifa lyrical niceness. Even though Eminems return made him step it up a bit with a great verse on So Appalled. He dropped whack as HAM and a throw away verse on Monster.

3. He signs whack a.ss pop acts and leaves rappers like J. Cole in the back of the line. Dude is so into pop music and money he tried to force Buddens into making hip pop for the Growth. image....what happened to "I Do It for Hip Hop"...Willow Smith...really jay, you whipping your head a hair that looks like pubes to her song? image

4. He tarnished his legacy with Kingdome Come and BP3, while people can say Em did the same with Encore at least Em came back with a multi galore theme album Relapse and a solid Recovery. What will Jay come back with.....

5. His content sucks. Jay cant make music for the everyday person, he has to make his same old tiring Mafioso Rap songs and his look at me I'm balling with all this money and glamor bla bla blah image, how you gonna drop all those albums when most of them are about the SAME fu*kING sh*t! image

6. He looks like a Camel and has big lips.

7. His creative attempts failed horribly (CHECK VENUS VS. MARS and GHETTO TECHNO). I think this is his biggest problem. He is afraid to drop some different sh*t because he doesn't believe in himself and knows he isnt fu*king with Eminen Nas and Budden.


No hate he might be in my top 20
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 7 years ago '07        #2
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 kiddrocay said:
for real tell me my points weren't valid
 7 years ago '04        #3
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....................................I agree that he's overrated by most people but he's still great just not the greatest imo.
 7 years ago '10        #4
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 Mr. Snowman said:
1. His lyrically ability is a joke compared to other GOATS like Nas, Em, Rakim, Stacks etc. Jay hasn't been lyrical for almost a decade which i think was caused by his wealth and his efforts being focused primarily on his businesses instead of his rap game.

2. He seems ok with his mediocrity. He released BP3 which is on some Wiz Khalifa lyrical niceness. Even though Eminems return made him step it up a bit with a great verse on So Appalled. He dropped whack as HAM and a throw away verse on Monster.

3. He signs whack a.ss pop acts and leaves rappers like J. Cole in the back of the line. Dude is so into pop music and money he tried to force Buddens into making hip pop for the Growth. ....what happened to "I Do It for Hip Hop"...Willow Smith...really jay, you whipping your head a hair that looks like pubes to her song?

4. He tarnished his legacy with Kingdome Come and BP3, while people can say Em did the same with Encore at least Em came back with a multi galore theme album Relapse and a solid Recovery. What will Jay come back with.....

5. His content sucks. Jay cant make music for the everyday person, he has to make his same old tiring Mafiso Rap songs and his look at me im balling with all this money and glamor bla bla blah

6. He looks like a Camel and has big lips.

7. His creative attempts failed horribly (CHECK VENUS VS. MARS and GHETTO TECHNO). I think this is his biggest problem. He is afraid to drop some different sh*t because he doesn't believe in himself and knows he isnt fu*king with Eminen Nas and Budden.


No hate he might be in my top 20
Venus vs. Mars was sick ... if it had a better chorus woulda been a radio hit.

BP3 had at least 8 quality tracks.

You're hating.
 7 years ago '09        #5
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244
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One of the reasons is that when the chips are down and a really good rapper puts a hot verse against him he always comes up short


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 7 years ago '05        #6
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You're doing too much
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1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
One of the reasons is that when the chips are down and a really good rapper puts a hot verse against him he always comes up short

for real thats another valid point he loses against other goats on songs
 7 years ago '05        #8
GST 
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n*gga all that is your opinion..foh
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 D.S.O.M. said:
he had the best verse on that song, no contest
I think Rakim battered him more there than Em did on Renegade or Nas did with Ether,Jay is good though but another thing against him is how much he thieves off Biggies lyrics.There`s paying homage and theres complete thievery
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1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 NO RELIGION said:
I can hear the hooves of the Camel Warriors
there is mass confusion and panic going on, they know these facts are rue so they are a.ssembling gifs and lame come backs to save face
 7 years ago '08        #11
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 kiddrocay said:
you only need one reason

nas is better

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 7 years ago '10        #12
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I agree with some of the statements you made, but comparing BP3 to wiz khalifa is just plain unresponsible. Jay Z's wackest verse is better than Wiz's best verse. Period n*gga. But Jay has the best catalogue out of any n*gga that is currently rappin. Jay IS the most consistent. But do i believe Jay is the best to ever do it? Hell no, but dude has been very consistent. Is jay more lyrical than lets say NAs? NO. But you know what you are getting with Jay. There's not much depth to Jay, but u know that going into it. You never know what u will get wit Nas. Illmatic sh*t or str8 trash.
 7 years ago '09        #13
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Jay-Z is top 3
Jay-Z
Nas
B.I.G
He has verses where he was lyrical

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Reasonable Doubt is equal to Illmatic
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Camels Warriors mad?


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 7 years ago '09        #15
Lupe Hunter 77 heat pts77
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Jay-Z is top 3
Jay-Z
Nas
B.I.G
He has verses where he was lyrical

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Reasonable Doubt is equal to Illmatic
Ag showed his creativity and Can still hold his own against the top rappers in the game
 7 years ago '09        #16
Lupe Hunter 77 heat pts77
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 kiddrocay said:
explain n*gga
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1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 GBREEZE said:
I agree with some of the statements you made, but comparing BP3 to wiz khalifa is just plain unresponsible. Jay Z's wackest verse is better than Wiz's best verse. Period n*gga. But Jay has the best catalogue out of any n*gga that is currently rappin. Jay IS the most consistent. But do i believe Jay is the best to ever do it? Hell no, but dude has been very consistent. Is jay more lyrical than lets say NAs? NO. But you know what you are getting with Jay. There's not much depth to Jay, but u know that going into it. You never know what u will get wit Nas. Illmatic sh*t or str8 trash.
that wiz comparison was a joke bro

respect your opinon
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 Mr. Snowman said:
1. His lyrically ability is a joke compared to other GOATS like Nas, Em, Rakim, Stacks etc. Jay hasn't been lyrical for almost a decade which i think was caused by his wealth and his efforts being focused primarily on his businesses instead of his rap game.

2. He seems ok with his mediocrity. He released BP3 which is on some Wiz Khalifa lyrical niceness. Even though Eminems return made him step it up a bit with a great verse on So Appalled. He dropped whack as HAM and a throw away verse on Monster.

3. He signs whack a.ss pop acts and leaves rappers like J. Cole in the back of the line. Dude is so into pop music and money he tried to force Buddens into making hip pop for the Growth. ....what happened to "I Do It for Hip Hop"...Willow Smith...really jay, you whipping your head a hair that looks like pubes to her song?

4. He tarnished his legacy with Kingdome Come and BP3, while people can say Em did the same with Encore at least Em came back with a multi galore theme album Relapse and a solid Recovery. What will Jay come back with.....

5. His content sucks. Jay cant make music for the everyday person, he has to make his same old tiring Mafioso Rap songs and his look at me I'm balling with all this money and glamor bla bla blah , how you gonna drop all those albums when most of them are about the SAME fu*kING sh*t!

6. He looks like a Camel and has big lips.

7. His creative attempts failed horribly (CHECK VENUS VS. MARS and GHETTO TECHNO). I think this is his biggest problem. He is afraid to drop some different sh*t because he doesn't believe in himself and knows he isnt fu*king with Eminen Nas and Budden.


No hate he might be in my top 20
 7 years ago '10        #20
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 GBREEZE said:
I agree with some of the statements you made, but comparing BP3 to wiz khalifa is just plain unresponsible. Jay Z's wackest verse is better than Wiz's best verse. Period n*gga. But Jay has the best catalogue out of any n*gga that is currently rappin. Jay IS the most consistent. But do i believe Jay is the best to ever do it? Hell no, but dude has been very consistent. Is jay more lyrical than lets say NAs? NO. But you know what you are getting with Jay. There's not much depth to Jay, but u know that going into it. You never know what u will get wit Nas. Illmatic sh*t or str8 trash.
Nas? Scarface? Em? lol

 Lupe Hunter said:
Jay-Z is top 3
Jay-Z
Nas
B.I.G
He has verses where he was lyrical



Reasonable Doubt is equal to Illmatic
Ag showed his creativity and Can still hold his own against the top rappers in the game
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