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Mar 30 - 70 metal books found in Jordan cave could change our view of Biblical history
 

 
Long read but interesting discovery specially this close to 2012.......

Sealed Codices of Christianity found in Jordan, experts speculate it could be Codices mentioned in Revelations.


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 70 metal books found in Jordan cave could change our view of Biblical history | Mail Online

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For scholars of faith and history, it is a treasure trove too precious for price.

This ancient collection of 70 tiny books, their lead pages bound with wire, could unlock some of the secrets of the earliest days of Christianity.

Academics are divided as to their authenticity but say that if verified, they could prove as pivotal as the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947.

On pages not much bigger than a credit card, are images, symbols and words that appear to refer to the Messiah and, possibly even, to the Crucifixion and Resurrection.

Adding to the intrigue, many of the books are sealed, prompting academics to speculate they are actually the lost collection of codices mentioned in the Bible’s Book Of Revelation.


Revelation: Experts speculate that the tablets could be the lost collection of codices referred to in the Bible's Book Of Revelation
Hidden meaning: Scrolls, tablets and other artifacts, including an incense bowl, were also found at the same site as the tablets


Hidden meaning: Scrolls, tablets and other artifacts, including an incense bowl, were also found at the same site as the tablets
SHEPHERD'S DISCOVERY THAT UNEARTHED A TREASURE TROVE

The remote desert caves in Israel which yielded The Dead Sea Scrolls


The Dead Sea Scrolls, counted among the most important archaeological finds of the modern era, were discovered in a cave (pictured) by a Bedouin shepherd in the West Bank.

The scrolls consist of 30,000 separate fragments making up 900 manuscripts of biblical texts and religious writings from the time of Jesus.

The fragile parchment and papyrus fragments have been the subject of intense study for more than half a century by an international team of scholars who are still trying to understand the significance of some 30 per cent of the texts which are not included in the Bible or any other previously known religious writings.

The scrolls include the earliest known copy of the Ten Commandments, an almost complete Book of Isaiah and many of the Psalms.

Some of the texts were damaged by well-intentioned restoration attempts since the 1950s that included the use of Sellotape, rice paper and perspex glue.

This estimate is based on the form of corrosion which has taken place, which experts believe would be impossible to achieve artificially.

If the dating is verified, the books would be among the earliest Christian documents, predating the writings of St Paul.

The prospect that they could contain contemporary accounts of the final years of Jesus’s life has excited scholars – although their enthusiasm is tempered by the fact that experts have previously been fooled by sophisticated fakes.

David Elkington, a British scholar of ancient religious history and archeology, and one of the few to have examined the books, says they could be ‘the major discovery of Christian history’.

‘It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church,’ he said.

But the mysteries between their ancient pages are not the books’ only riddle. Today, their whereabouts are also something of a mystery. After their discovery by a Jordanian Bedouin, the hoard was subsequently acquired by an Israeli Bedouin, who is said to have illegally smuggled them across the border into Israel, where they remain.

However, the Jordanian Government is now working at the highest levels to repatriate and safeguard the collection. Philip Davies, emeritus professor of biblical studies at Sheffield University, said there was powerful evidence that the books have a Christian origin in plates cast into a picture map of the holy city of Jerusalem.

A 16th century painting depicting Jesus's death. The metal books contain pages with images, symbols and words that appear to refer to the Messiah and, possibly even, to the CrucifixionX marks the spot: The cave in Jordan where the artifacts were discovered

X marks the spot: The cave in Jordan where the artifacts were discovered
Dr Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old Testament Study, confirmed that a sealed book is mentioned in the Bible


Dr Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old Testament Study, confirmed that a sealed book is mentioned in the Bible

‘As soon as I saw that, I was dumbstruck,’ he said. ‘That struck me as so obviously a Christian image. There is a cross in the foreground, and behind it is what has to be the tomb [of Jesus], a small building with an opening, and behind that the walls of the city.

‘There are walls depicted on other pages of these books too and they almost certainly refer to Jerusalem. It is a Christian crucifixion taking place outside the city walls.’

The British team leading the work on the discovery fears that the present Israeli ‘keeper’ may be looking to sell some of the books on to the black market, or worse – destroy them.


But the man who holds the books denies the charge and claims they have been in his family for 100 years.

Dr Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old Testament Study, said: ‘The Book of Revelation tells of a sealed book that was opened only by the Messiah.

‘Other texts from the period tell of sealed books of wisdom and of a secret tradition passed on by Jesus to his closest disciples. That is the context for this discovery.’
Groundbreaking find: A section of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were discovered in 1947

Groundbreaking find: A section of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were unearthed in 1947

Professor Davies said: ‘The possibility of a Hebrew-Christian origin is certainly suggested by the imagery and, if so, these codices are likely to bring dramatic new light to our understanding of a very significant but so far little understood period of history.’

Mr Elkington, who is leading British efforts to have the books returned to Jordan, said: ‘It is vital that the collection can be recovered intact and secured in the best possible circumstances, both for the benefit of its owners and for a potentially fascinated international audience.’

*British scientists have uncovered up to eight million mummified dogs, thought to have been sacrificed to Anubis, the god of the dead, 2500 years ago after excavating tunnels in the ancient Eygptian city of Saqqara.

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 7 years ago '05        #2
Flatbush85 54 heat pts54
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I'ma put 20 down this sh*t is a hoax
 7 years ago '06        #3
philly337 20 heat pts20
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I can't remember but didnt one if these time travelers or whatever u want to call him predict something like this
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is this sh*t really happening?
 03-30-2011, 10:48 PM         #5
killya 
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they better not get destroyed.
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where can i see this text for myself
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WILD sh*t...

wonder what these depict and have written in them exactly...the ancient world can teach us so much about today....
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crazy
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crazy sh*t
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Amazing stuff. As time moves on, the Bible's credibility goes higher and higher gradually. Those aren't fairy tales, I don't care what naysayers do or say.
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god doesnt exist
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 sjrocc05 said:
inb4Goddoesntexist
dammit
 03-31-2011, 12:40 AM         #14
Old Man Quillis 
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Bet them fake Jews in Israel are going out of their way to dictate the what happens to them.
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 Storchaveli said:
Amazing stuff. As time moves on, the Bible's credibility goes higher and higher gradually. Those aren't fairy tales, I don't care what naysayers do or say.


So, if people write some sh*t on Scientology now and it somehow manages to survive a millenium, does that make it true and add credibility? No.

Anyway, there are fallacies in the story from the person who "found" them. And they keep mentioning that the book was in the Bible, but never refer to the actual verse or line.

 palogee said:
Bet them fake Jews in Israel are going out of their way to dictate the what happens to them.
There's fake Jews in Israel? Enlighten me.
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we're slowly making the transition
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I need more proof. But I'm open to it being real. It's possible.


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 frankfmoney said:


So, if people write some sh*t on Scientology now and it somehow manages to survive a millenium, does that make it true and add credibility? No.
You DO know that respected people in the scientific and scholastic communities acknowledge the existence of Jesus, right? So your insinuation that the Bible is not "true" goes out the window. Try again.
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 Storchaveli said:
You DO know that respected people in the scientific and scholastic communities acknowledge the existence of Jesus, right? So your insinuation that the Bible is not "true" goes out the window. Try again.


You didn't even get the point I was making. There was a Jesus, a Mary, another Mary, and his brother and some other family members? I've seen/read/heard about all of this. What's the point you're trying to make here? Jesus was a person? Maybe. Jesus was the only son of God? No. Jesus was birthed by a virgin? No. Jesus walked on water? No. Jesus was the messiah? No. Was Jesus even his real name? No.

I could go on and on. The Bible is full of metaphors and stories written centuries ago and quite a bit of it (the New Testament) written centuries after the "fact". Why take it seriously? Brush up on your own religion. Maybe you should try again.
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 frankfmoney said:


You didn't even get the point I was making. There was a Jesus, a Mary, another Mary, and his brother and some other family members? I've seen/read/heard about all of this. What's the point you're trying to make here? Jesus was a person? Maybe. Jesus was the only son of God? No. Jesus was birthed by a virgin? No. Jesus walked on water? No. Jesus was the messiah? No. Was Jesus even his real name? No.

I could go on and on. The Bible is full of metaphors and stories written centuries ago and quite a bit of it (the New Testament) written centuries after the "fact". Why take it seriously? Brush up on your own religion. Maybe you should try again.
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