Mar 29 - More Black Men Now in Prison System than Were Enslaved

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Mar 29 - More Black Men Now in Prison System than Were Enslaved
 

 
More Black Men Now in Prison System than Were Enslaved

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More African American men are in prison or jail, on probation or parole than were enslaved in 1850, before the Civil War began,” Michelle Alexander told a standing room only house at the Pasadena Main Library this past Wednesday, the first of many jarring points she made in a riveting presentation.
Alexander, currently a law professor at Ohio State, had been brought in to discuss her year-old bestseller, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness. Interest ran so high beforehand that the organizers had to move the event to a location that could accommodate the eager attendees. That evening, more than 200 people braved the pouring rain and inevitable traffic jams to crowd into the library’s main room, with dozens more shuffled into an overflow room, and even more latecomers turned away altogether. Alexander and her topic had struck a nerve.
Growing crime rates over the past 30 years don’t explain the skyrocketing numbers of black — and increasingly brown — men caught in America’s prison system, according to Alexander, who clerked for Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun after attending Stanford Law. “In fact, crime rates have fluctuated over the years and are now at historical lows.”
“Most of that increase is due to the War on Drugs, a war waged almost exclusively in poor communities of color,” she said, even though studies have shown that whites use and sell illegal drugs at rates equal to or above blacks. In some black inner-city communities, four of five black youth can expect to be caught up in the criminal justice system during their lifetimes.
As a consequence, a great many black men are disenfranchised, said Alexander — prevented because of their felony convictions from voting and from living in public housing, discriminated in hiring, excluded from juries, and denied educational opportunities.
“What do we expect them to do?” she asked, who researched her ground-breaking book while serving as Director of the Racial Justice Project at the ACLU of Northern California. “Well, seventy percent return to prison within two years, that’s what they do.”
Organized by the Pasadena Public Library and the Flintridge Center, with a dozen or more cosponsors, including the ACLU Pasadena/Foothills Chapter and Neighborhood Church, and the LA Progressive as the sole media sponsor, the event drew a crowd of the converted, frankly — more than two-thirds from Pasadena’s well-established black community and others drawn from activists circles. Although Alexander is a polished speaker on a deeply researched topic, little she said stunned the crowd, which, after all, was the choir. So the question is what to do about this glaring injustice.

ACLU Pasadena/Foothills President Michelle White, Author Michelle Alexander, LA Progressive Publisher Sharon Kyle, and ACLU Pasadena Past President Kris Ockershauser.
Married to a federal prosecutor, Alexander briefly touched on the differing opinion in the Alexander household. “You can imagine the arguments we have,” Alexander said in relating discussions she has with her husband. “He thinks there are changes we can make within the system,” she said, agreeing that there are good people working on the issues and that improvements can be made. “But I think there has to be a revolution of some kind.”
However change is to come, a big impediment will be the massive prison-industrial system.
“If we were to return prison populations to 1970 levels, before the War on Drugs began,” she said. “More than a million people working in the system would see their jobs disappear.”
So it’s like America’s current war addiction. We have built a massive war machine — one bigger than all the other countries in the world combined — with millions of well-paid defense industry and billions of dollars at stake. With a hammer that big, every foreign policy issue looks like a nail — another bomb to drop, another country to invade, another massive weapons development project to build.
Similarly, with such a well-entrenched prison-industrial complex in place — also with a million jobs and billions of dollars at stake — every criminal justice issue also looks like a nail — another prison sentence to pass down, another third strike to enforce, another prison to build in some job-starved small town, another chance at a better life to deny.
Alexander, who drew her early inspiration from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., devotes the last part of “The New Jim Crow” to steps people can take to combat this gross injustice. In particular, she recommended supporting the Drug Policy Alliance. At the book signing afterwards, Dr. Anthony Samad recruited Michelle Alexander to appear this fall at one his Urban Issues Forums, typically at the California African American Museum next to USC.

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150 comments for "Mar 29 - More Black Men Now in Prison System than Were Enslaved"

 03-29-2011, 01:38 PM         #2
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let the hate begin. here it comes. more i hate whitey bull sh*t
 03-29-2011, 01:40 PM         #3
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ok here's a question. which is worse? prison or slavery? honest question and I'm just asking
 7 years ago '10        #4
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white,black, green,purple,what ever...you commit the crime you do the time...simple as that.
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than can almost equate in comparison by some of the reasons people are in. And by some of which although every one is innocent in jail... some probably are. Not to mention some of which with appropriate representation would be free... and there it is... free
 7 years ago '06        #6
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Kats need to smarten up... think outside the box... to make money.

This aint the 80's... slanging aint popping.... can't blame the "man"
Esses run that shyt anyways.. Cats need to take school seriously, and get that education... that that student loan headshot and keep pushing..

ill take a job at mcdonalds all day b4 the sheriffs workforce...
 03-29-2011, 01:58 PM         #7
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Free max b!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 7 years ago '06        #8
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This is more about racist "policy" not "crime."

"...Most of that increase is due to the War on Drugs, a war waged almost exclusively in poor communities of color,” she said, even though studies have shown that whites use and sell illegal drugs at rates equal to or above blacks. In some black inner-city communities, four of five black youth can expect to be caught up in the criminal justice system during their lifetimes...."
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 kendreezy said:
This is more about racist "policy" not "crime."

"...Most of that increase is due to the War on Drugs, a war waged almost exclusively in poor communities of color, she said, even though studies have shown that whites use and sell illegal drugs at rates equal to or above blacks. In some black inner-city communities, four of five black youth can expect to be caught up in the criminal justice system during their lifetimes...."
then quit selling drugs and it wont matter what f*cking color you are.
 7 years ago '04        #10
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 sunsetnVine said:
Kats need to smarten up... think outside the box... to make money.

This aint the 80's... slanging aint popping.... can't blame the "man"
Esses run that shyt anyways.. Cats need to take school seriously, and get that education... that that student loan headshot and keep pushing..

ill take a job at mcdonalds all day b4 the sheriffs workforce...
real sh*t, there is still racism and fu*ked up sh*t here and there but im a black man and have never been locked up or on probation. my people have to wake up and go get it the legal way otherwise they will have no prob throwing your black a.ss in jail
 7 years ago '09        #11
Zaosyn 261 heat pts261
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To be fair cops really do try to aggravate black dudes into doing something stupid and getting more time


But to the white man's credit...

#winning
 7 years ago '06        #12
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 ngoogs said:
ok here's a question. which is worse? prison or slavery? honest question and I'm just asking
Slavery by far. One is a choice the other was forced.
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 UcantCme said:
then quit selling drugs and it wont matter what f*cking color you are.
You idiot. Although I hear you, I'm saying if the war on crime was waged on the white collar level, they'd not only nip the epidemic in the bud, they'd prosecute more white people with more serious crimes than "possession."

Black people aren't the ones largely importing cocaine....


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 7 years ago '05        #14
Micheal C. Will 21 heat pts21
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The African-American population is also larger as well, then it was in the 19th century.
 7 years ago '06        #15
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the privatization of prison system and making cities police regional is only going to make this matter worse. The biggest thing right or wrong are the laws themselves.
A girl pistol whips her mother in FL so she will co-sign for a car and at this point isn't in jail & a car dealer in get out on a $25,000 bond for r*pe in Ohio. But get caught with drugs they'll hod you in the county and you'll get time.

yeah the correct thing is to either stop selling or move to CA if you push trees.

What's real crazy are meth labs, so many people caught with them do less then 2 years unless you catch some major charges - then its 10 years.

now if it's crack, x, or pills and you are in your car and black and get pulled your could get 10 years plus in some states.
 03-29-2011, 02:27 PM         #16
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the vast majority of prisoners are in there for a reason. dont break the fu*king law, go to school, get a real job instead of getting high and toting guns all fu*king day. i know its not easy as many of them have no guidance..

which is why the hundreds of millionaire athletes/rappers should get together and pool some of their millions, turn school systems around, fix up housing projects, start charity foundations

it would also help if rappers, such as 2pac, the most admired rapper ever by black people, didnt go around sayin sh*t like "i'm not gonna act white, ima act black, ima get high and carry my gat cuz thats what n*ggas do"
attitudes like that is what gets black people k!lled, thrown in jail, is what makes a racist white man happy. dont act a color, act civilized
 7 years ago '05        #17
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The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution officially abolished and continues to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.
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 UcantCme said:
white,black, green,purple,what ever...you commit the crime you do the time...simple as that.
Bullsh*t it aint that simple....They write tougher rules and give harder and longer sentences to crimes that are mostly like to be committed by blackmen. crack vs. cocoine physical robbery vs robbing a people through fraud and accounting gimmicks. You dont have to look back far, just 2yrs ago wall street robbed americans and the world outta $8-12trillion, these are crime were committed mostly (95 %) by white men. For example, that n*gga d!ck Fold of Lehman Brother hide $50 billion in losses and people invested their retriment and pension with the company think everything was all goood. Not only that n*gga didnt go to jail that guy kept the 300million in compenstation, but they send the Tyrone of american on a 5-10 bid for robbing the store for $400. CMON SON

THEN THEY PRIVATIZE PRISION AND CUT DEALS WITH JUDGES TO GIVE n*ggaS 10YRS, WHEN HE SUPPOSE TO DO LIKE 2-4YRS..... :obamahm



Slavery aint ended it just a new name.
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 Striker1415 said:

Slavery aint ended it just a new name.
Yup: "Capitalism" makes a goooooooood slave.
 7 years ago '10        #20
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 Chest Rockwell said:
the vast majority of prisoners are in there for a reason. dont break the fu*king law, go to school, get a real job instead of getting high and toting guns all fu*king day. i know its not easy as many of them have no guidance..

which is why the hundreds of millionaire athletes/rappers should get together and pool some of their millions, turn school systems around, fix up housing projects, start charity foundations

it would also help if rappers, such as 2pac, the most admired rapper ever by black people, didnt go around sayin sh*t like "i'm not gonna act white, ima act black, ima get high and carry my gat cuz thats what n*ggas do"
attitudes like that is what gets black people k!lled, thrown in jail, is what makes a racist white man happy. dont act a color, act civilized
Pac was saying he wasn't going to change because of the money, he still is the same way he was with or without the fame and cash. Look at the intention. And plus, how can you ignore all his uplifting songs and interviews and just point out that? Come on.

As far as everything else, I agree, but there's many more factors here, we need to straighten up.

But once again, there are also other factors, purposely put against black people or poor people, to hold us back.


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