UFC fight night live - Nogueira Vs. Davis - TONIGHT ON SPIKE

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Main Card Winners?
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 5 21.74%
Phil Davis 16 69.57%
Dan Hardy 7 30.43%
Anthony Johnson 12 52.17%
Amir Sadolla 12 52.17%
Damarques Johnson 5 21.74%
Leonard Garcia 7 30.43%
Chan Sung Jung 12 52.17%
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 7 years ago '04        #201
#RAPTORSWON 228 heat pts228
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Davis struggled taking Nog down for half the f!ght... Bader took him down with ease... Just sayin...
 7 years ago '05        #202
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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 Russ369 said:
Davis struggled taking Nog down for half the f!ght... Bader took him down with ease... Just sayin...
Lil Nog stuffed most of Bader's takedowns as well...Bader got 5 takedowns on Lil Nog, but attempted 16 (31%)...difference was Bader implemented better GnP...Davis landed 4 of 11 (36%) takedowns...


on another note: people, Davis took this f!ght on 5 weeks notice...about 1 year ago, Bones turned down Lil Nog on short notice......so he should get props for stepping up against a tough opponent...

Ortiz pulled out of this f!ght and Davis stepped in and was only able to have a 5 week camp...

anyone that can beat Lil Nog on 5 weeks notice has done themselves a favor...this is his 3rd time f!ghting on short notice and he still hasn't lost...5th f!ght in 13 months...


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 7 years ago '05        #203
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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 Gattsau said:
hmm why the shot at jones? we know hes not scared to f!ght on short notice.

he compellty demolished the lhw champ on short notice .

also if memory serves me correct the reason he turned down the f!ght was he wasnt trying at all after vera because he was home with his child who was sick.
i didn't take a shot at Bones...Bones is cool in my book...i did say Davis should get props for stepping up tho...whatever the reason was back then, Bones didn't...
... Bones and his camp didn't want that f!ght on short notice because he hadn't been in the gym in awhile for whatever reason...doesn't mean he is scared, timing just wasn't right...

i also gave props to Bones for stepping up against Shogun when Rampage couldn't in another thread...

Davis has repeatedly fought on short notice...i was just addressing all the "not impressed" posts...


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 7 years ago '05        #204
Basicgz 
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I previously said while Davis was being praised after Bones k!lled Shogun that I need to see more. Well I saw what I saw last night and he would get DESTROYED by Bones if they fought. Davis hands is TRASH I'm not taking nothing away from Lil Nog cause he has cool standup but Davis standup is doo doo Davis is too slow for Bones. When he got the takedowns he really didnt impress me either he some nice strikes while on top in the 2nd round towards the end of the round but thats it. I'm not wrting him off he's obviously raw talent right now. I'm just sayin he has a lot of room for improvement before even comparing him to Bones Jones
 7 years ago '07        #205
Optimus Crime 5 heat pts
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 Basicgz said:
I previously said while Davis was being praised after Bones k!lled Shogun that I need to see more. Well I saw what I saw last night and he would get DESTROYED by Bones if they fought. Davis hands is TRASH I'm not taking nothing away from Lil Nog cause he has cool standup but Davis standup is doo doo Davis is too slow for Bones. When he got the takedowns he really didnt impress me either he some nice strikes while on top in the 2nd round towards the end of the round but thats it. I'm not wrting him off he's obviously raw talent right now. I'm just sayin he has a lot of room for improvement before even comparing him to Bones Jones
Well I think the number one problem of this Phil Davis and Jon Jones debate that's going is that many people are analyzing the situation unilaterally. Phil Davis is going to be a monster, and he's improving exponentially. Lil Nog was a strong test for Phil Davis, and he had good reason to be wary of Lil Nog's hands. I think he handled himself well, and even showed that he could take a few shots... but I feel like a lot of people are putting too much emphasis on Phil Davis's potential, and not enough on Jon Jones's.

A poster here said that Phil Davis and Jon Jones were in similar points in there career when Bones fought Bonnar... and honestly that couldn't be any further from the truth. Phil Davis and Jon Jones actually began training MMA at around the same time. Jon Jones started f!ghting MMA in April of '08 and Phil Davis started in October '08. Bones's first four f!ghts spanned over a time period of roughly one month lol... So if you're going to compare them with a timeline, they actually are at similar points in their training timeline

Jon Jones dominated Bonnar, and only lost around because he gassed. He wasn't with a legitimate (pro) camp and he learned his strikes from YOUTUBE. Jon Jones, like Phil Davis improves exponentially with every f!ght he f!ghts, so Phil Davis is going to be playing catchup...

And then Phil Davis has one more thing to worry about... Bones's unpredictability. One thing I noticed that no one on here was talking about was actually how hard Bones's flying knee at the very beginning of the f!ght landed on shogun


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He crushed Shogun with that, and not only is he unpredicable, but he's very creative... Lateral drops
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, his signature takedown fake into the spinning elbow
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, Harai Goshi
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In short, anyone who has to deal with Jon Jones is gonna have a lot on plate, especially when he starts tightening up his technique
 7 years ago '08        #206
OzzieCanseco 15 heat pts15
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Damn I went to this last night and just found out who won
 7 years ago '04        #207
NoLedge18720 8 heat pts
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Davis isnt ready for a title shot hes got a ways to go. He just has good wrestling and thats it right now. A f!ghter like Jones would destroy him on the feet
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