Scouts See Key Flaws In BYU Shooting Guard Jimmer Fredette's Game That Could Dog Him In the NBA.

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Scouts See Key Flaws In BYU Shooting Guard Jimmer Fredette's Game That Could Dog Him In the NBA.
 

 
Scouts Maintain Perspective As Jimmer-Mania Reaches Its Apex
Posted Mar 22 2011 9:41AM

The catchy name, the T-shirt slogans, the music, the games against prison inmates, the prominent program, now the Sweet 16 and -- get this -- the senior status. Playing four years? What is that? Jimmer Fredette: Package from NCAA Marketing Heaven.

Now about the rest of his career....

The captivating Fredette back story and scoring pyrotechnics may have turned him into a national sensation in the college game as BYU climbed to No. 3 in the nation in February. But around NBA front offices, it's hard to locate a team that rates him as more than a role player with a chance for a career as a solid contributor. Some don't even allow for that much star treatment heading into the Draft, saying his chance of success in the pros will depend on the rest of the roster.

Fredette is projected for the middle of the first round -- maybe a little lower if the physical goes particularly bad at the Chicago pre-draft workouts -- and maybe a little higher if enough top prospects stay in school or overseas. He could touch the end of the lottery of a particularly weak Draft or he could last until the 20s, and nobody could be surprised at either outcome.

"You just have to know what you're getting,"
one scout said. "He has limited athleticism. He's not the greatest ball handler. He's just an OK passer. But as far as flat out shooting, he's one of the best in the country. And if you put him around good players, he'll be even better."


Fredette is, in other words, viewed as a complementary player in the NBA, not a budding star who will push to replicate a BYU career that has reached the Round of 16 against Florida in the Southeast Region in New Orleans.

He is a 6-foot-2 point guard with a shooting guard game, and that's a listed 6-foot-2. If he goes to the Chicago camp and the actual number turns out to be more like 6-foot-1 or even 6-foot-and-1/2, as if often the case with inflated college numbers, Fredette is even more undersized for his role than previously thought.

He can't run the point and can't check two guards with much size. The team that drafts him will need to partner him with a big point guard who defends, and taking him suddenly gets into the problems that are created as much as the problems that his arrival solves.

Actually, it's unfair to single Fredette out for being unable to check shooting guards. That's not it.

He doesn't defend anyone. It's not simply that he doesn't have the ability, either. In the greater concern for potential NBA suitors, Fredette doesn't seem to bother making much of an effort at that end.

"I think he's almost invisible defensively," one personnel director told David Aldridge of TNT and NBA.com. "I watched Jackson Emery (the other BYU guard) out there and he's guarding like one and a half guys. I don't think I've ever seen (Fredette) bend his knees at the defensive end."


Everything points to an NBA career as a situational player, perhaps as a third guard, definitely needing to play alongside a bigger guard who can handle the ball, preferably with a defensive presence. That, or with a team where he can camp out on the perimeter and provide air cover that takes some of the scoring load from the stars or from the interior.

Because Fredette is a shooting savant. He can get his shot and make it, two factors that will always appeal to the pros.
It's why T-shirts are selling for $20 a pop at the BYU bookstore, with white lettering on a navy blue background:

YEAH

HE SHOOTS

FROM THERE

It has Fredette's number, 32, just in case there was any doubt about the long-range specialist being hailed. Jimmer is the hero who has been named Player of the Year by some and is in contention for the national award by others, who has led the Jimmerization of college basketball, who just Jimmered the Gonzaga defense for 34 points while making seven of 12 from beyond the arc in the Round of 32.

The storyline never gets old. Kid from a small town in upstate New York is steeled by an older brother, who would take 18-year-old Jimmer, their father and a couple other friends to play pickup games against inmates at a couple area prisons. Before BYU games, Jimmer would listen to rap songs made by his brother, also Mormon. There have been a lot of reasons to fall for him so far.

Now about the rest of his career.


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164 comments for "Scouts See Key Flaws In BYU Shooting Guard Jimmer Fredette's Game That Could Dog Him In the NBA."

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shadymilkman 10 heat pts10
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f**kin cracka a.ss cracka
 7 years ago '10        #3
Bradley88 165 heat pts165 OP
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 lostkauze said:
I thought everybody already knew this.
What pick do you think he will end up as?
 7 years ago '05        #4
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 lostkauze said:
I thought everybody already knew this.
this...
 7 years ago '05        #5
astroblack9 4 heat pts
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ill take jimmer on the lakeshow no problems...so im ecstatic to hear this....he fits the triangle beautifully
 7 years ago '08        #6
Dee Grande 1269 heat pts1269
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joe dumars will take him
 03-22-2011, 12:01 PM         #7
TheBallDontLie 
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Already has the Knick tangibles down to a tee.
 7 years ago '07        #8
JamcnPrettyboy 98 heat pts98
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dude is gonna struggle in the nba due to his lack of athleticism.
 7 years ago '09        #9
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 JamcnPrettyboy said:
dude is gonna struggle in the nba due to his lack of athleticism.

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DRuNk 24/7 6 heat pts
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 TheBallDontLie said:
Already has the Knick tangibles down to a tee.
We did give him a guarantee with one of our 2nd Round selections should he of came out last season.
 7 years ago '10        #11
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Remember when you played live back in the day. I thought every white dude could shoot
 7 years ago '05        #12
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 Bradley88 said:
Everything points to an NBA career as a situational player, perhaps as a third guard, definitely needing to play alongside a bigger guard who can handle the ball, preferably with a defensive presence. That, or with a team where he can camp out on the perimeter and provide air cover that takes some of the scoring load from the stars or from the interior.
Oklahoma City?
 03-22-2011, 12:14 PM         #13
TheBallDontLie 
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 DRuNk 24/7 said:
We did give him a guarantee with one of our 2nd Round selections should he of came out last season.
Damn didn't know this. I don't see him struggling because he is build like a man.
 7 years ago '08        #14
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 xRapHeadx said:

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jImmer can not handle the ball and isnt nearly as good a passer
and is about half as fast as curry
what the f**k is curry there for?
 7 years ago '05        #15
iggyemu 
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He's JJ Red!ck. His shooting will help a contending team.
 7 years ago '10        #16
Bradley88 165 heat pts165 OP
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 Imagin3 said:

jImmer can not handle the ball and isnt nearly as good a passer
and is about half as fast as curry
what the f**k is curry there for?
Just about to say that.
 03-22-2011, 12:17 PM         #17
TheBallDontLie 
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 iggyemu said:
He's JJ Red!ck. His shooting will help a contending team.
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 7 years ago '09        #18
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 Imagin3 said:

jImmer can not handle the ball and isnt nearly as good a passer
and is about half as fast as curry
what the f**k is curry there for?

Curry is not fast...at all. Curry is not a good passer...at all. They are very similar. Only have seen a few BYU games, but his handle looks fine to me.
 7 years ago '06        #19
hood135 2 heat pts
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 astroblack9 said:
ill take jimmer on the lakeshow no problems...so im ecstatic to hear this....he fits the triangle beautifully
I wouldn't. Derrick Fisher is bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic, is a better ball handler, has a better mid range game, and has a very high basketball I.q. He is better defensively too but in a league full of good point guards, he gets torches on a regular basis. Jimmer Fredette would be a liability to the tenth degree in the triangle.

There are better players out there that can fill that void. No disrespect to Jimmer though. He is ballin his add off.
 03-22-2011, 12:21 PM         #20
Got Cheeve? 
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He'll be like JJ Red!ck
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