Lupe explains how Atlantic told him to dumb it down, took away his budget, and held him hostage

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Lupe explains how Atlantic told him to dumb it down, took away his budget, and held him hostage
 

 

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 Lupe Fiasco: 'I am a hostage' -- struggles through difficult creative process for new 'Lasers' album - Music: Via Chicago

The Cool" was released Dec. 18, 2007, and by Jan. 9, 2008, it had sold 198,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan. It eventually went gold. The album debuted at No. 1 on Billboard's rap chart and stayed there for nine weeks. At the next Grammys, "The Cool" won best rap album, along with best rap/sung collaboration and best rap song ("Superstar" with local singer Matthew Santos) and best rap solo performance ("Paris, Tokyo").

The successes capped a steady crescendo of acclaim. Fiasco -- born Wasalu Muhammad Jaco, raised around the South Side's Madison Terrace housing projects, a devout Muslim who abstains from alcohol and drugs -- had been signed to another major (Epic Records) at age 19 as a member of a gangsta rap group called Da Pak. With the a.ssistance of Jay-Z (who calls Fiasco a "genius writer"), Fiasco moved to Atlantic, debuting with "Food & Liquor" in 2006, which featured production by friend and champion Kanye West and received critical raves for its bold sounds and intelligent wordplay.

So when Fiasco met with Atlantic to talk terms for his third album, he felt he was on pretty great footing.

"If 'The Cool' was a success, I was supposed to get a bump in the budget for my next record," Fiasco said. "When I went in to cash in on that, I was told 'The Cool' wasn't a success. I said, 'Well, how do you gauge that? Even if you leave off the multiple Grammys, the accolades up the a.ss, the platinum singles, take out the subjective stuff. How many records actually sold?' They said it wasn't a success and we're changing the game, we don't go by that anymore. So I said, 'Let's not have any more meetings until we figure out what rules we're playing by.'"

A stalemate began, and Fiasco started to squirm. At a 2008 performance in Chicago, he suggested he would retire, promising one final record to be titled "LupE.N.D." -- a three-CD concept album, with discs representing "everywhere," "nowhere" and "down here." He told Billboard that year: "My next record might be my last one." By June 2009, he promised an audience at the Chicago Theatre that a single disc, now called "The Great American Rap Album," would be out by December.

Meanwhile, Atlantic had frozen his budget, and Fiasco was asking to be let go. The label refused. Jay-Z was offering to mediate negotiations. Darrale Jones, Fiasco's A&R rep at Atlantic and the man who'd signed him, has told other publications that the music Fiasco continued to deliver "wasn't commercial enough." (Jones and other label execs were asked to comment for this story. After much deliberation, Atlantic Records on Wednesday released a prepared statement instead. It reads, in its entirety: "We fully support Lupe and the release of 'Lasers.'")

"I was specifically told" -- Fiasco chuckled -- "'Don't rap too deep on this record.'" He laughed some more. "That was a specific order from the top. 'You're rapping too fast or too slow, or it's too complex.' ... There are consequences and combat that comes from that process and the eventual compromise. With me, though, I'm not writing about someone else. I'm writing about me. This is my life. It's very personal for me. So for somebody to kind of put their fingers in that and play with that, it becomes more damaging."

Fiasco said he spiraled into real depression, even contemplating suicide -- but he kept writing. He documents his struggles, in a general way, throughout the song "Beautiful Lasers": "Sometimes livin' in a word like this / it's pretty hard not to go insane," he raps, later considering bailing back to the South Side ("Go home, sh--'s far too gone") and then peering into the abyss while hearing contradicting internal voices:

All you see is all my rights
All I see is all my wrongs
Door keep telling me to f!ght
Gun on my table telling me to come home
Telling me to to put him inside my hand
Then put it up right next to my dome
Door keep telling me to find a reason
Anything to keep me from squeezing
Simplest things, yeah, you really like summer
You really like music, you really like reading, love
I can't win if it's me against me
One of us ain't gonna survive

"He started doing that record on stage, and I was shocked," said Jason Evans, a k a JROC, Fiasco's cousin who works A&R for Fiasco's Chicago-based independent label, First & 15th Productions. "He would introduce it, he'd say, 'I wrote this record when I was at a real down point in my life.' It was like a confession. That's how I found out, and we talked throughout that tour. It was shocking that he'd come so low because he's so mentally strong. ... He's 100 percent Muslim, very religious, and his father instilled all kinds of moral strength into his upbringing. It had to be bad if it came to that."


Doing his duty

Fiasco's fans tried to have his back. When summer of 2010 rolled around and still no news of the new album, two protest marches were scheduled in New York and Chicago. Dan Winchester, a local video producer, organized the Oct. 15 ("Fiasco Friday") event here. Even though the release date was announced a few days before, about 200 fans still showed up at Buckingham Fountain that afternoon and marched north along Michigan Avenue, carrying signs of support.

"Instead of an outright protest, it became a statement march," Winchester said. "We definitely made a statement -- that we support positive music, that we're not going to stand for corporations watering down music to be all pop and all sound the same. Once you sign a contract like that, they control everything about it. That's what they've been doing with Lupe, and we wanted to stand with him and against that corporate meddling."

Fiasco heard about the planned protest online. "Somebody kept spamming my Twitter page about it, the same guy, over and over," he said. "I was like, all right, chill out. But they really meant it. It was a full-on, full-blown angry protest. Then we had the meeting with Atlantic and they set a date, so it became a celebration. They still had 250 kids out there [in New York]. ... I went. I had to see it with my own two eyes."

Fiasco said the confluence of collective action and movement at Atlantic helped bring him around.

"I'm OK now. I'm happy, I'm stable," he said. "I've distanced myself from the situation emotionally and spiritually. It doesn't affect me. I found a nice balance to navigate through it without it leading to me k!lling myself, literally."

The process of finishing "Lasers" he described with words one hates to hear from a creative artist. He "hunkered down" and "got through it." He "went along," he "acquiesced." He "found some emotional distance from the music." He "lost those aspirations."

"I am a hostage," Fiasco said. "I gave them what they wanted. If I didn't, at the end of the day the album wasn't coming out."

"The Great American Rap Album" was recorded simultaneously with "Lasers." It's a "different sound" and should be released by the end of this year, he said. After that, maybe a greatest hits.

Meanwhile, Fiasco talks like a bored cubicle worker watching the clock, waiting for quitting time.

"There are certain expectations I don't have anymore. There are certain things I'll keep for myself now until they can be received the way I want them to be received. You'll still get albums, and they'll be good."
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150 comments for "Lupe explains how Atlantic told him to dumb it down, took away his budget, and held him hostage"

 7 years ago '09        #2
Zaosyn 261 heat pts261
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Atlantic took Lupe's smile..

 7 years ago '08        #3
knAwle3ge 73 heat pts73
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and that's why being independent >>>> major
 7 years ago '09        #4
MOTM 71 heat pts71
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He's done unless he gets out of there
 7 years ago '05        #5
Bobby's World 9 heat pts
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Okay, the lyrics werent dumbed down though...the beats and hooks were just pop B.O.B type ish.
 7 years ago '06        #6
coolio 57 heat pts57
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how many albums is he signed to dropped on atlantic?
 7 years ago '09        #7
Zaosyn 261 heat pts261
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 coolio said:
how many albums is he signed to dropped on atlantic?
6 I think.. meaning he has 2-3 left
 7 years ago '05        #8
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thats what i got outta what i read... record companies are jokes
i say we bootlegg music and never buy an album again

that will show them
 7 years ago '04        #9
jeehtoven 51 heat pts51
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he seems intelligent...he should have known about some of this. Most of his gripes have been mentioned before by other artists.

Look at Prince.
 03-03-2011, 01:54 PM         #10
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 Bobby's World said:
Okay, the lyrics werent dumbed down though...the beats and hooks were just pop B.O.B type ish.
didn't you read idiot, the lyrics were dumbed down from what he originally planned

it don't sound like it but imagine if he actually got to record things his own way in his words?
 03-03-2011, 01:57 PM         #11
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 NahLij said:
He should release his original LASERS album for the fans. Or sell it on his website. Theres plenty ways to get his vision out to his fans. But of course he wont do that.
Fail


He would have a pending lawsuit, releasing out side of contract anything without permission.
There already having words with each other.
 7 years ago '07        #12
MOTTAFOOKAH 4 heat pts
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 yourFATazzMAMA said:
and that's why being independent >>>> major
I'm coppin for the collection because Lupe is my favorite rapper, but this just goes to show you why all of these bulls**t rappers like Wakka Flocka, and Gucci Mane are in the mainstream
 7 years ago '10        #13
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 francnad4 said:
Why do rappers always blame the label...he made the music and pushed them to release it when they didnt want too..he cant really act the victim
CMON SON u know they (majors) tell you how to male your music... They played lupe...
 7 years ago '08        #14
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is he not allowed to release mixtapes?

is being paid more important than putting out music you want people to hear?

Do I know anything specific about this situation? No. But I'd be interested to hear Lupe's answers.


B.O.B played the game and won.
 7 years ago '05        #15
Gm0ney85 9 heat pts
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see man..

i wanna be mad at lupe... but i cant..

i say, dont support the album.. cuz even tho it may feel like your helpin lupe.. your really just supporting atlantic...

DOWN WITH LASERS!!!
 7 years ago '04        #16
NBA Brawler 112 heat pts112
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f**k major labels man.
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itz209 3 heat pts
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 francnad4 said:
Why do rappers always blame the label...he made the music and pushed them to release it when they didnt want too..he cant really act the victim
the onus lies with the fans, before all this,lupe was actually fine with lasers not being released, it wasnt actually just the label that didn't want it released,but lupe as well unless he got to put out the music he wanted but because the fans demanded it so much and did all them petitions and s**t, compromises needed to be made to satisfy the fans
 7 years ago '04        #18
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that messed up yo. lupe was my n*gga too now what am i suppose to look forward to. i guess ima be like tupac and get down with the underground
 7 years ago '10        #19
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Fiasco's fans tried to have his back. When summer of 2010 rolled around and still no news of the new album, two protest marches were scheduled in New York and Chicago. Dan Winchester, a local video producer, organized the Oct. 15 ("Fiasco Friday") event here. Even though the release date was announced a few days before, about 200 fans still showed up at Buckingham Fountain that afternoon and marched north along Michigan Avenue, carrying signs of support.

"Instead of an outright protest, it became a statement march," Winchester said. "We definitely made a statement -- that we support positive music, that we're not going to stand for corporations watering down music to be all pop and all sound the same. Once you sign a contract like that, they control everything about it. That's what they've been doing with Lupe, and we wanted to stand with him and against that corporate meddling."
well...it looks like they marched for nothin


yo lupe should just release that lupe.end for free
 7 years ago '06        #20
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how many albums is he signed for?
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