Why Is Eminem Not Declared the Best Rapper Of All-Time?

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 7 years ago '07        #101
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177
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 thegoldenhero said:
why you always hatin on jay?
cause IMO hes the most overrated rapper of all time (as well as wayne)
 7 years ago '09        #102
ShadyVsEminem 248 heat pts248
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 BackBlock_OG said:
No, not my friends, its the streets opinion that mean the most. "The world" didn't make Illmatic a classic. "The world" didn't make Reasonable Doubt or Ready to Die or Paid in full classics. The streets said they were classics. You're from Ireland, so you have no idea what's hot in the streets. Like I've said a million times, hip hop is the music of the streets. You can't be the GOAT of street music if your songs don't get play in the streets. If the rap game was one big freestyle Friday battle, the "Em is GOAT" argument might hold some weight, but it's not.



How many records did 2Pac and Jay-Z's 1st albums sell when they 1st came out? How many records did SSLP sell when it 1st came out? Pac and Hov worked/earned their way to the top. They didn't have the luxury of being apart of a demographic that were dying to see one of their own succeed.

BTW, Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer both went diamond. Are they in your top 5?
Apparently "the streets" listen to Gucci Mane and the like because i made a thread months ago asking that very question

You think being white was a big advantage in 98 when he was signed?Snoop and Dre sold huge with there debuts long before Eminem

Vanilla Ice and Hammer were both flashes in the pan so they are bad examples

Em has good flow,lyrics,mixes humor and seriousness,has good hooks can battle and freestyle,has some of the best diss songs ever and every album has its own style.Maybe he experiments to much at times


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 7 years ago '09        #103
ShadyVsEminem 248 heat pts248
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 Michael 1987 said:
Your the biggest stan on here. Yeah the song was big but that's doesn't prove anything.. an it sure as hell don't mean is the greatest rapper of all time either.
When you can make a hip hop song everyone can like from the self titled hip hop heads to casual listeners it proves something.
 03-04-2011, 01:32 AM         #104
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because he's not, LOSER

thread is :bsflag:
 7 years ago '04        #105
regularjoe 59 heat pts59
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Eminem is definitely one of the GOATs.
 7 years ago '10        #106
kennboy1 29 heat pts29
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Everybody has their own opinion.


That's it, that's all. Nothing really left to be said by anybody.
 7 years ago '10        #107
datguyjr 2 heat pts
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Eminem is definitely 1 of the GOATS, haters can hate and cry all they want. :dancingcool:
 7 years ago '04        #108
bony 37 heat pts37
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how are you gonna put the "no love" track and say hes the best rapper of all time.... one of the very reasons why hes not nor ever will be the best of all time
 03-04-2011, 08:48 AM         #109
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Simply cause he ain't!

for his 3 first albums he was good... he invented something.. but right now he's just played out, he done fell the f**k off (musically talking), does the same s**t over and over again, he's finished son don't cry... accept it.

Marshall Mathers LP was his classic album, end of the discussion.

he lost the passion, the hunger, that made him famous. that's what i mean when i say he done fell off.


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 7 years ago '05        #110
Switchc2390 10 heat pts10
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He's a good rapper..not in the top tier for me but I have no hate for anyone who does put him there..comes down to preference.
 7 years ago '07        #111
six1twan 3 heat pts OP
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 H.P said:
Simply cause he ain't!

for his 3 first albums he was good... he invented something.. but right now he's just played out, he done fell the f**k off (musically talking), does the same s**t over and over again, he's finished son don't cry... accept it.

Marshall Mathers LP was his classic album, end of the discussion.

he lost the passion, the hunger, that made him famous. that's what i mean when i say he done fell off.
DAMN you said the dude feel off thats crazy last time i checked he has sold 3.6mill so far how many records have your favorite artist sold lately


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 03-07-2011, 07:15 AM         #112
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 six1twan said:
DAMN you said the dude feel off thats crazy last time i checked he has sold 3.6mill so far how many records have your favorite artist sold lately


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Doesn't mean he didn't fall off lyrically(which he did), and in my opinion he wasn't even the best during his hottest years in the early 2000's..

I agree with an earlier post, there's no g.o.a.t, everyone has an opinion..
 7 years ago '07        #113
Pistol Peter 33 heat pts33
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i will tell you why...hip hop is black music..it is driven by black people..black people declare who is the best as a whole...and eminem simply isn't on most black peoples radar...you could probably go to any hood and say eminem and they probably will group him with lady gaga and justin timberlake before they will group him with a nas or jay-z or pac and big


i was telling my guy about the new em album and how good it was and dude was like he had a new album?..he still doing this s**t?


people think of him as a silly artist which is his own fault...nobody will ever take him serious...so yall cry babies could stop trying to pull the race card
 7 years ago '10        #114
LORD PLISSKEN 15 heat pts15
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lol @ thread. Eminem fans make me rage
 7 years ago '05        #115
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Because tomorrow hasn't come yet an Nostradamus has not predicted it , there is no such thing as a "GOAT" . If you think there is a "GOAT" , YOU'RE RETARDED .
 7 years ago '10        #116
jt satan 79 heat pts79
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Because his albums are garbage
 7 years ago '08        #117
The N 542 heat pts542
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He isn't, he is a battle rapper that went commercial over Dre beats, doing songs about drugs momma and bulls**t.
 7 years ago '04        #118
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because people like Nas, Black Thought, and AZ exist
 7 years ago '07        #119
six1twan 3 heat pts OP
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So has Nas fell off?
 03-08-2011, 02:25 AM         #120
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because there's about 10 above him. do your homework.
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