Why Is Eminem Not Declared the Best Rapper Of All-Time?

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 7 years ago '08        #81
DooM 66 heat pts66
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 MOTTAFOOKAH said:
NO;
YES
 7 years ago '04        #82
youngd 16 heat pts16
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ems flow is immaculate but his content is very disturbing i liked him better when he was doin songs wit dre 50 snoop and nate dogg cuz he knew that weird s**t wasnt gonna fly with those n*ggas
 7 years ago '09        #83
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 Damagegadget said:
no this is the reason why he is even relevant...no black kid who rapped about the isht he does would even be relevant...and because em has lost plenty of times in the battle circuit
royce the 5'9
 7 years ago '07        #84
TH35 103 heat pts103
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Eminem is hit or miss nowadays.
 7 years ago '09        #85
NLSP42 155 heat pts155
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There will NEVER in Rap ever be a universally accepted SINGLE rapper as the GOAT....never ever ever

Everybody has different opinions on what the regard being the GOAT entails......

Some people feel Pac is the Goat
Some people think Biggie is the Goat (myself included)
Some people think Nas is the Goat
Some people think Rakim is the Goat
Some people think Jay-z is the Goat
Some people think Eminem is the Goat
Some people EVEN think Joey is the Goat
 7 years ago '04        #86
Ophqui 
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Because you have dreadful taste in music
 7 years ago '10        #87
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 PushaT5050 said:
Because he's lucky to make top 25. If he was black his name wouldn't even come up.
how can someone who has sold 80 mill copies, the most in hip hop, not even make top 25??? you just hating with that comment
 7 years ago '05        #88
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I thought he was declared the best rapper of last decade.
 7 years ago '07        #89
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 NLSP42 said:
There will NEVER in Rap ever be a universally accepted SINGLE rapper as the GOAT....never ever ever

Everybody has different opinions on what the regard being the GOAT entails......

Some people feel Pac is the Goat
Some people think Biggie is the Goat (myself included)
Some people think Nas is the Goat
Some people think Rakim is the Goat
Some people think Jay-z is the Goat
Some people think Eminem is the Goat
Some people EVEN think Joey is the Goat
Nas said it best. There is no GOAT.
 7 years ago '10        #90
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 M.O.B. Erin D said:
Because nobody gives a damn how much you sold - except whiggers. That's why.

Everybody with at least a single functioning brain cell can go back and look at some of the hottest rap albums ever and see that they didn't sell 10 million. Why?

NOBODY in hip hop was doing those numbers. Not Pac, not Biggie, not DMX, not Jay, not even Nas.

Sure yeah, the white boy comes along and makes his groovy little tunes for the whiggers to jam to. Good for him.
nobody gives a damn how much you sold? you sure about that? wiggers are the only ones who care? not the rich business men who own record lables? jay-z, 50 cent, lil wayne none of them care about record sales right?
ya this is wikipedia but this doesnt matter: Beatles most for a rock group, elvis most rock solo, michael jackson most pop, madonna most female pop, acdc most heavy metal group, stevie wonder most r&B, garth brooks most country... any of these guys not cracking top 25 in their own genre or is eminem the only exception?
 03-03-2011, 03:46 PM         #91
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 7 years ago '04        #92
psylence2k 58 heat pts58
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 M.O.B. Erin D said:

Let Jay-Z put on wigs, get hit in the face with newspapers, dress up as Marilyn Manson, try and shoot retarded a.ss videos like Eminem does and see how things change. He'd get laughed into orbit.

this argument is stupid, everyone has to do with whatever fits their own personality. Just like Jay would be ridiculed for doing what Em does Em would be ridiculed for doing what Jay does. Nobody wants to hear a white rapper who tries to be "black". Shyt even some black rappers wont be accepted for things OTHER black rappers do. You think Jay could do some of the shyt Snoop does? You think 50 could do some of the shyt Kanye does? You basically have to take the cards society deals you and learn how to work them and Em went against the grain not even knowing if this whole Slim Shady shyt would work but dont blame dude for finding his own unique lane since other rappers arent creative or brave enough to do the same.
 7 years ago '10        #93
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 M.O.B. Erin D said:
Okay. 2 albums. Nice job!!!!


You forgot *NSYNC.
they aint the best selling in their genre so you gonna answer the question or no
 7 years ago '09        #94
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cause Nas the goat
 7 years ago '07        #95
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177
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 NLSP42 said:
There will NEVER in Rap ever be a universally accepted SINGLE rapper as the GOAT....never ever ever

Everybody has different opinions on what the regard being the GOAT entails......

Some people feel Pac is the Goat
Some people think Biggie is the Goat (myself included)
Some people think Nas is the Goat
Some people think Rakim is the Goat
Some people think Jay-z is the Goat
Some people think Eminem is the Goat
Some people EVEN think Joey is the Goat
:agreement6: take Jay-Z out and you got something
 7 years ago '06        #96
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em ain't f**kin with pun or biggie's flow.
 7 years ago '09        #97
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 Mr. Snowman said:
:agreement6: take Jay-Z out and you got something
why you always hatin on jay?
 7 years ago '09        #98
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244
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[video - click to view]

Sometimes I just feel like, quittin I still might
Why do I put up this f!ght, why do I still write
Sometimes it's hard enough just dealin with real life
Sometimes I wanna jump on stage and just k!ll mics
And show these people what my level of skill's like
But I'm still white, sometimes I just hate life
Somethin ain't right, hit the brake lights
Case of the stage fright, drawin a blank like
Da-duh-duh-da-da, it ain't my fault
Great then I falls, my insides crawl
and I clam up (wham) I just slam shut
I just can't do it, my whole manhood's
just been stripped, I have just been vicked
So I must then get off the bus then split
Man f**k this s**t yo, I'm goin the f**k home
World on my shoulders as I run back to this 8 Mile Road

I'm a man, I'ma make a new plan
Time for me to just stand up, and travel new land
Time for me to just take matters into my own hands
Once I'm over these tracks man I'ma never look back
(8 Mile Road) And I'm gone, I know right where I'm goin
Sorry momma I'm grown, I must travel alone
ain't gon' follow the footsteps I'm making my own
Only way that I know how to escape from this 8 Mile Road


I'm walkin these train tracks, tryin to regain back
the spirit I had 'fore I go back to the same crap
To the same plant, and the same pants
Tryin to chase rap, gotta move ASAP
And get a new plan, momma's got a new man
Poor little baby sister, she don't understand
Sits in front of the TV, buries her nose in the pad
And just colors until the crayon gets dull in her hand
While she colors her big brother and mother and dad
Ain't no tellin what really goes on in her little head
Wish I could be the daddy that neither one of us had
But I keep runnin from somethin I never wanted so bad!
Sometimes I get upset, cause I ain't blew up yet
It's like I grew up, but I ain't grow me two nuts yet
Don't gotta rep my step, don't got enough pep
The pressure's too much man, I'm just tryin to do what's best
And I try, sit alone and I cry
Yo I won't tell no lie, not a moment goes by
That I don't pray to the sky, please I'm beggin you God
Please don't let me pigeon holed in no regular job
Yo I hope you can hear me homey wherever you are
Yo I'm tellin you dawg I'm bailin this trailer tomorrow
Tell my mother I love her, kiss baby sister goodbye
Say whenever you need me baby, I'm never too far
But yo I gotta get out there, the only way I know
And I'ma be back for you, the second that I blow
On everything I own, I'll make it on my own
Off to work I go, back to this 8 Mile Road

[Chorus]
You gotta live it to feel it, you didn't you wouldn't get it
Or see what the big deal is, why it wasn't the skillest
To be walkin this borderline of Detroit city limits
It's different, it's a certain significance, a certificate
of authenticity, you'd never even see
But it's everything to me, it's my credibility
You never seen heard smelled or met a real MC
who's incredible upon the same pedestal as me
But yet I'm still unsigned, havin a rough time
Sit on the porch with all my friends and kick dumb rhymes
Go to work and serve MC's in the lunchline
But when it comes crunch time, where do my punchlines go
Who must I show, to bust my flow
Where must I go, who must I know
Or am I just another crab in the bucket
Cause I ain't havin no luck with this little Rabbit so f**k it
Maybe I need a new outlet, I'm startin to doubt s**t
I'm feelin a little skeptical who I hang out with
I look like a bum, yo my clothes ain't about s**t
At the Salvation Army tryin to salvage an outfit
And it's cold, tryin to travel this road
Plus I feel like I'm on stuck in this battlin mode
My defenses are so up, but one thing I don't want
is pity from no one, the city is no fun
There is no sun, and it's so dark
Sometimes I feel like I'm just bein pulled apart
From each one of my limbs, by each on of my friends
It's enough to just make me wanna jump out of my skin
Sometimes I feel like a robot, sometimes I just know not
what I'm doin I just blow, my head is a stove top
I just explode, the kettle gets so hot
Sometimes my mouth just overloads the a.ss that I don't got
But I've learned, it's time for me to U-turn
Yo it only takes one time for me to get burned
Ain't no fallin no next time I meet a new girl
I can no longer play stupid or be immature
I got every ingredient, all I need is the courage
Like I already got the beat, all I need is the words
Got the urge, suddenly it's a surge
Suddenly a new burst of energy is occured
Time to show these free world leaders the three and a third
I am no longer scared now, I'm free as a bird
Then I turn and cross over the median curb
Hit the 'burbs and all you see is a blur from 8 Mile Road
 03-03-2011, 04:09 PM         #99
youngbasedkltn 
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Ain't no fallin no next time I meet a new girl
I can no longer play stupid or be immature
I got every ingredient, all I need is the courage
Like I already got the beat, all I need is the words

yeah man goat lyrics
 7 years ago '04        #100
BackBlock_OG 34 heat pts34
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
So its not about what the world thinks its your friends opinions that mean the most?

This song set the world on fire

No, not my friends, its the streets opinion that mean the most. "The world" didn't make Illmatic a classic. "The world" didn't make Reasonable Doubt or Ready to Die or Paid in full classics. The streets said they were classics. You're from Ireland, so you have no idea what's hot in the streets. Like I've said a million times, hip hop is the music of the streets. You can't be the GOAT of street music if your songs don't get play in the streets. If the rap game was one big freestyle Friday battle, the "Em is GOAT" argument might hold some weight, but it's not.

 ShadyVsEminem said:
People say sales dont matter yet the 3 biggest selling rappers in hip hop are Eminem,2pac and Jay Z and thats not a bad top 3 or is it?
How many records did 2Pac and Jay-Z's 1st albums sell when they 1st came out? How many records did SSLP sell when it 1st came out? Pac and Hov worked/earned their way to the top. They didn't have the luxury of being apart of a demographic that were dying to see one of their own succeed.

BTW, Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer both went diamond. Are they in your top 5?
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