Feb 24 - Scientists claim that 'self' can be mentally transferred between bodies

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Feb 24 - Scientists claim that 'self' can be mentally transferred between bodies
 

 

For millennia, philosophers have debated whether or not the self exists solely in the mind, the body, or both. Well, it's unclear whether this will help clear things up or just muddy the waters further, but Swedish neuroscientists are now claiming that the human brain can add outside objects such as a third arm to one's physical sense of self, and that people can even mentally project their "self" out of their own body and into someone else's. If these findings hold up, the implications for virtual reality, robotics and prostheses could be substantial.

Experiments were performed at Stockholm's Karolinska Institutet medical university, in which a highly-realistic prosthetic right arm was placed on a table beside human subjects' own arms, so they could see all three. Scientists then simultaneously touched both the prosthetic arm and the subjects' own right arms with a small brush, at the same location on both arms.

"What happens then is that a conflict arises in the brain concerning which of the right hands belongs to the participant's body," said Arvid Guterstam, one of the scientists conducting the research. "What one could expect is that only one of the hands is experienced as one's own, presumably the real arm. But what we found, surprisingly, is that the brain solves this conflict by accepting both right hands as part of the body image, and the subjects experience having an extra third arm."

When scientists threatened either the prosthetic arm or the real arm with a knife, the subjects' measured stress response was the same.

It is hoped that the scientists' findings could eventually be applied to people such as partially-paralyzed stroke victims, so that they could fashion a functioning prosthetic arm into their body image while still also retaining their existing paralyzed arm within that image. It has even been suggested that resulting technology could have applications for people in demanding work situations such as paramedics or firemen, who could always use an extra arm.

Transferring the self
A related study at Karolinska is said to have resulted in people perceiving that their physical selves were located not in their own bodies, but in those of other test subjects. We're currently waiting to hear back from the university, as to how this was achieved or verified.

"By clarifying how the normal brain produces a sense of ownership of the body, we can learn to project ownership onto artificial bodies and simulated virtual ones, and even make two people have the experience of swapping bodies with one another," stated study leader Henrik Ehrsson.

So far, he has reportedly been able to "transfer" subjects' selves into bodies of a different s3x, age, or size, but not into inanimate objects. In one ongoing robotics-related project, however, researchers are trying to determine if someone's perceived body can be shrunk down to the size of a Barbie doll.

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 7 years ago '11        #2
GetuOne 73 heat pts73 OP
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:yikes: Makes me cream my pants just thinking of the possiblities. Imagine turning 90 then just hopping over to the next body. OR If your going to be on trial for murder and you have the right dirty connections with on the black market and you switch your mind with some homeless dude's.


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 02-24-2011, 06:48 PM         #3
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I wonder how that works,I know there was a scientist who xferred heads of amonkey and it was still alive
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GetuOne 73 heat pts73 OP
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I think that would really get people questioning what happens after you die. Especially with cloning. Could you imagine growing your clone around the age of 45 or something and by time you turn 60 you just hop right into your fresh teenage body and start over.


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 7 years ago '06        #5
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 GetuOne said:
I think that would really get people questioning what happens after you die.
 02-24-2011, 06:56 PM         #6
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dont interest me, i wanna live a life then see what happens when I die
 7 years ago '06        #7
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 jesusplay said:
when you die you cease to exist.

nothing.

your done.

game over man, game over.

Ok know it all.
 7 years ago '05        #8
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 GetuOne said:
I think that would really get people questioning what happens after you die. Especially with cloning. Could you imagine growing your clone around the age of 45 or something and by time you turn 60 you just hop right into your fresh teenage body and start over.
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 MumblesDaHumble said:
yeah yeah it's called a soul. Now that some scientist says some bulls**t you all believe.
at a "soul"

 02-24-2011, 07:02 PM         #10
Who's Dat? 
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I blame hip hop
 7 years ago '10        #11
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 jesusplay said:
use some god damn logic. it only makes sense.

we are animals....nothing more. when a animal dies what do you think happens you f**king sheep?
i dont think jesus would swear as much as you do..
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 jesusplay said:
when you die you cease to exist.

nothing.

your done.

game over man, game over.
Well if that's the case, then with this technology and cloning we can make our own Afterlife. Sh*t, you could even invest money in your clone and have him go to school and sh*t, then take over his life when your done with yours.

Example: oooo damn i'm about to die, that's ok, my clone owns a place on the beach in Italy with an executive position at Google and a beautiful European model .

You know, a lot of people look back at their lives and say, if I was half the man back then as I am now I would change things. Then they spend the rest of their lives passing their seeds of wisdom onto their children try to live through them. Now's a chance to pass it onto yourself. :cool-smiley-009:


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 7 years ago '06        #13
Yung Dilla 1498 heat pts1498
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Damn that seems cool....
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 jesusplay said:
use some god damn logic. it only makes sense.

we are animals....nothing more. when a animal dies what do you think happens you f**king sheep?

Neither side is 100% on what's out there imo.
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 GetuOne said:
I think that would really get people questioning what happens after you die. Especially with cloning. Could you imagine growing your clone around the age of 45 or something and by time you turn 60 you just hop right into your fresh teenage body and start over.
and this is the dream.......same body, same cells, same birth marks, and the same mind just transfered
 7 years ago '08        #16
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 jesusplay said:
when you die you cease to exist.

nothing.

your done.

game over man, game over.
even einstien believed in an afterlife of some sort. Nothing is created or destroyed, it merely transforms from one form to the next.
 7 years ago '09        #17
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Aint a human on the planet ever truly created anything..just changed it form so it benefits humanity.....and these people sayin what???...i dont even feel like inserting a smiley
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well I'm an a**hole so I'm sure my clone would be like "n*gga please" and somehow I wouldn't get to transfer into him
 02-24-2011, 07:58 PM         #20
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