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 7 years ago '05        #301
GUNIT-FINEST 
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 xRapHeadx said:
So now Rose has help...I guess he still deserves the lion share of the credit while his team has a top 5 defense.
your f**king stupid man he is part of that D stop acting like he been carried no one is saying he is the only good player but compare to other teams from a talent poitn there not that good.
 7 years ago '09        #302
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 Hold That said:
What was Kobe,LeBron, and Melo doing in their first 2 seasons?

what was CP3 doing? or Deron?
Kobe was still stuck behind Eddie Jones and Excel

LeBron averaged 27 7 7 his sophomore season

Melo- Rose, kind of interestingly, has followed the same path as Carmelo. Lots of success early(Melo has peaked though).

CP3 was a much better passer play maker, and by his 3rd season had blossomed into the best PG in basketball..Rose is the best PG now, but he's not the best passer.

Deron- started slowly.. I only checked the stats of Bron. I think Rose was better as a rookie, but he doesn't have the natural play making talent.

3rd year Rose is not better than any of these guys...
 7 years ago '09        #303
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Oh yeah G-Unit, LeBron with less talent in 2007 made the Finals. Thats when it truly was him by himself but with talent around him he won 60+ games the next two years and didnt get back to the Finals. So, there are exceptions to the rule.
 7 years ago '07        #304
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
NO ONE ever said he is soley reason why they are where there at. Are u f**king stupid he not the only reason but he is the biggest him and the new coach. Rose is the best player on the team.

and idk how manying times i have to say this ITS A TEAM SPORT THERE NO ONE MAN DOING s**t FOR ANYONE IN A TEAM SPORT.

WADE BY HIMSELF = 1ST ROUND L
KOBE BY HIMSELF = 1 ROUND L
JORDAN BY HIMSELF = 1 ST ROUND L
LBJ BY HIMSELF = 2ND ROUND NO RINGS

I COULD GO ON IF U WANT BUT U MAKE NO SENSE WHY DOES BX THINGS ONE MAN IS GONNA CARRY A WHOLE f**kING TEAM TO THE FINALS I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.

THIS IS A SUPERSTAR LEAGUE U GOTTA HAVE AT LEAST 2 HELL MIA HAS 3 BY YOUR LOGIC I GUESS KOBE MJ LBJ AND WADE ARE LOSER
why do you always type in caps and name call like a lil kid? you getting that worked up over a basketball discussion?

prob looking like this and s**t..


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 7 years ago '09        #305
xRapHeadx 17 heat pts17
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your f**king stupid man he is part of that D stop acting like he been carried no one is saying he is the only good player but compare to other teams from a talent poitn there not that good.
Sure he is. I, unlike you, am not arguing from an emotional stance as a player. He is a great player that plays on a great team. Even giving him the majority of the credit for a top 5 defense and rebounding team is hilarious. He's not anchoring them like Duncan did. He's playing within a great system and is given total freedom on O, something that del Negro didn't do. That and his improved 3 point shot have made him an elite player.
 7 years ago '05        #306
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Who said it's just Rose but he's a big a.ss part of it..


A bigger part than what any other player has played for their teams.. At the same time the defensive effort has been great, and you can credit that to the coaching.. Boozer provides an inside scoring threat, Deng has played his role and been good for us on both ends.. The bench has provided energy, and Rose has carried us and secured victories, got players involved and done everything that is asked of him..

Play defense, be the primary scorer, get his teammates involved, come up big in the last 2minutes of the game and be clutch, be a leader on this team..

He's done it all, couldn't be happier for the little guy..


Didn't LeBron leave cleveland because he said he was tired of all those duties? And wanted help of Wade and Bosh to take some of the load off of him.. Now n*ggas want to reward him for that?
 7 years ago '05        #307
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 xRapHeadx said:
Kobe was still stuck behind Eddie Jones and Excel

LeBron averaged 27 7 7 his sophomore season

Melo- Rose, kind of interestingly, has followed the same path as Carmelo. Lots of success early(Melo has peaked though).

CP3 was a much better passer play maker, and by his 3rd season had blossomed into the best PG in basketball..Rose is the best PG now, but he's not the best passer.

Deron- started slowly.. I only checked the stats of Bron. I think Rose was better as a rookie, but he doesn't have the natural play making talent.

3rd year Rose is not better than any of these guys...
In other words none of those n*ggas did anything in the post season in their first two years that you so adamantly want to judge Rose on... Nobody was asking about Regular season because our discussion was strictly post season..

This is when you know people run out of arguments, they are all over the field, cant stay on course..
 7 years ago '05        #308
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
Oh yeah G-Unit, LeBron with less talent in 2007 made the Finals. Thats when it truly was him by himself but with talent around him he won 60+ games the next two years and didnt get back to the Finals. So, there are exceptions to the rule.
1st Rd. Cakewalk Vs The Wizards Who Didnt Have Gil Caron Or Jamison

2nd Vs The Nets Who Really Wasnt That Good Of A Team

But I'll Give Em Credit For The Pistions Though
 7 years ago '09        #309
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
Oh yeah G-Unit, LeBron with less talent in 2007 made the Finals. Thats when it truly was him by himself but with talent around him he won 60+ games the next two years and didnt get back to the Finals. So, there are exceptions to the rule.
That's not true. The Cavs had an elite defensive and rebounding squad...
 7 years ago '09        #310
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 Hold That said:
In other words none of those n*ggas did anything in the post season in their first two years that you so adamantly want to judge Rose on... Nobody was asking about Regular season because our discussion was strictly post season..


Thought so.
It's you who began the critiquing of post season success with LeBron. I simply responded. Don't a.ssert something without knowing the ramifications. I've already caught you on this twice.
 02-18-2011, 10:57 AM         #311
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
MVP of the Bulls should be Carlos Boozer, Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer and CJ Watson. All them other n*ggas been there. Oh yeah, add Thibs as coach of the year. Before now this so called MVP couldnt get them above .500 in the east and past the 1st rd now its all because of him they are winning?

Yeah, only idiots wanna believe that
see this is hilarious. Once certain points get proven bulls**t ya'll try to pull Rose losing in the first round to the BOSTON CELTICS (7 Games, enough OT to play 9 games) and the CLEVELAND JAMES' as an excuse.

That should let you know EVEN MORE SO how much Rose is the MVP.

Boozer is the only upgrade over Hinrich, Gordon, Brad Miller, Andres Nocioni etc. and he DIDN'T EVEN PLAY HALF THE YEAR. Korver, Brewer and Watson? Hinrich, Gordon and Nocioni are about even. Korver one dimensional, Brewer is just... athletic thats it, Watson? benefitied from a run and gun offense in Golden State and is inconsistent as hell too.
 7 years ago '09        #312
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 Hold That said:

Didn't LeBron leave cleveland because he said he was tired of all those duties? And wanted help of Wade and Bosh to take some of the load off of him.. Now n*ggas want to reward him for that?
We both know that's not true.
 7 years ago '08        #313
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
I didnt say Rose hasnt improved. How dumb are you to not see that? I am just addressing the people here that say its all because of him they are winning.


I have never said players do it by themselves but go back and read this thread again and read some other Bulls an Rose threads and see all the Bulls homers or stans as you guys say popping off about it being Rose and only Rose that has them where they are. Anybody with knowledge of the game knows its about how good a team is. My only objective was to show those fools that it isn't just Rose that has them in the position they are in today.
How about you go show where that was said. Nobody has ever said Rose does it alone. He has less help than Lebron but no one does it alone and no one said otherwise.
 7 years ago '05        #314
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 xRapHeadx said:
It's you who began the critiquing of post season success with LeBron. I simply responded. Don't a.ssert something without knowing the ramifications. I've already caught you on this twice.
You responding by saying he averaged 27 7 7.. Ok if that was a response to the post season Rose average 27 7 4 in the post season last year.. Oh wait but LeBron didn't make the post season his first two years now did he? In a weak a.ss eastern conference

Now tell me what the others were doing in the post season their first two years?


Last edited by Hold That; 02-18-2011 at 11:03 AM..
 7 years ago '04        #315
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That shows you how important an all-star franchise-type PG is for a team... I can only hope that my Raps can land Kyrie Irving... we need a PG BAAAD... Our best PG's have been Damon Stoudamire and Alvin Williams... and that was 10 f**kin years ago!
 7 years ago '09        #316
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 Got Cheeve? said:
see this is hilarious. Once certain points get proven bulls**t ya'll try to pull Rose losing in the first round to the BOSTON CELTICS (7 Games, enough OT to play 9 games) and the CLEVELAND JAMES' as an excuse.

That should let you know EVEN MORE SO how much Rose is the MVP.

Boozer is the only upgrade over Hinrich, Gordon, Brad Miller, Andres Nocioni etc. and he DIDN'T EVEN PLAY HALF THE YEAR. Korver, Brewer and Watson? Hinrich, Gordon and Nocioni are about even. Korver one dimensional, Brewer is just... athletic thats it, Watson? benefitied from a run and gun offense in Golden State and is inconsistent as hell too.
Wow, so now you wanna discredit the new guys. I'm sure I can go right now and find posts by you in previous threads where you are defending them and saying these n*ggas are better than the other guys. I love how n*ggas like to only say one thing just to win an argument. You cant make these dudes great in another thread and downplay them in this thread to make Rose look better fam.

Oh, I didn't see John Salmons anywhere in your mentions of previous players. You know him and BG was the only reason you had 7 games. Rondo was out there averaging a triple double against Rose so he was shell shocked lol
 7 years ago '09        #317
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 PEK said:
How about you go show where that was said. Nobody has ever said Rose does it alone. He has less help than Lebron but no one does it alone and no one said otherwise.
How about you go read the thread and see. If you see any deleted posts by bulls fans then those are some of them. Also, go read any of the daily 43 threads about Rose or that end up turning into a Rose for MVP thread thanks to a couple of people here. The s**t is there homie.
 7 years ago '09        #318
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 Hold That said:
You responding by saying he averaged 27 7 7.. Ok if that was a response to the post season Rose average 27 7 4 in the post season last year.. Oh wait but LeBron didn't make the post season his first two years now did he?

Now tell me what the others were doing in the post season?
That wasn't response to that...Stop making stuff up.

 Hold That said:
Lets be real a Bron stan only argument is his regular season award, thats why they so nervous he might not actually win one this year...
My response: But then what does Rose have? RoY? It's a clear attempt to attack a contradictory statement. You say that LeBron fans use the MVPs to make up for his lack of post season success, while all the time pimping Rose for MVP who has even less post season success.

You never mentioned Rose' post season numbers in this exchange.
 7 years ago '08        #319
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
How about you go read the thread and see. If you see any deleted posts by bulls fans then those are some of them. Also, go read any of the daily 43 threads about Rose or that end up turning into a Rose for MVP thread thanks to a couple of people here. The s**t is there homie.
I've read every bulls related for the last 3 years. That s**t aint been said. You just have a problem with reading comprehension.
 7 years ago '07        #320
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 Hold That said:
You responding by saying he averaged 27 7 7.. Ok if that was a response to the post season Rose average 27 7 4 in the post season last year.. Oh wait but LeBron didn't make the post season his first two years now did he? In a weak a.ss eastern conference

Now tell me what the others were doing in the post season their first two years?
tha idiocy is strong in this 1
whens tha last cleve made tha playoffs b4 lebron?
now whens tha last time tha bulls made tha playoffs b4 rose?
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