Knicks Turn Down Deal for Melo

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 7 years ago '06        #141
DRuNk 24/7 6 heat pts
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 KSoraci7 said:
I don't understand your point about how having Billups would make it financially impossible to sign cp3 or deron considering Billups expires before they do. Since a team option doesn't matter which you are correct about, what was your initial point? Felton being an expiring which Billups would also be?

Am I missing something here or are your facts incorrect?
I never said Billups would make it financially impossible. The FINANCES are what makes it virtually impossible. Having both Melo and Stat signed to max extensions makes it difficult in and of itself to make room for a 3rd max slot, its not the same situation as in Miami where they all agreed to take a pay cut and have tax free income. It's going to be virtually impossible to begin with to have the cap space for DWill and CP3, which is why we must retain as many a.ssets in a potential Melo deal as we possibly can.

Walsh needs to keep his leverage in tact. He needs to keep his flexibility with the cap in tact, not taking on longer term salary. If he doesn't, he will lose that leverage if DWill and Paul use similar tactics in trying to force their way to NY by next years deadline.

Trading Felton for Billups as part of a Melo deal hurts his leverage. Not because one is better than the other, but because one is much younger than the other. With Felton, Walsh knows he doesn't NEED to upgrade (though it would be nice). With Billups on the other hand, the Jazz and Hornets KNOW we NEED to find a replacement moving forward and the price to pay will be much higher due to that fact.

My point basically is....Walsh has shown his philosophy centers on flexibilty and options. He loses that flexibility by swapping Felton for Billups.
 7 years ago '06        #142
DrockSteady 44 heat pts44
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Knicks made a smart move
 7 years ago '10        #143
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Nuggets are running out of options. Expect leaks by CAA in the next few days.
 7 years ago '05        #144
2 Pistolz 13 heat pts13
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If Melo signs an extension with Denver I will laugh my a.ss off. Financially that's his best bet.

Also was Chauncey Billups included in this proposal since Felton was? It makes zero sense for Denver to even target Felton with Ty Lawson waiting in the wings unless there is a follow up deal already in place. They should be trying to acquire TWO OF Chandler, Gallo, Fields.


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 7 years ago '07        #145
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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 7 years ago '05        #146
abdullah 
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 JuElz CaM said:
knicks lost
how?
 7 years ago '08        #147
AC_89 237 heat pts237
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As long as they keeps fields i'm happy
 02-15-2011, 03:25 PM         #148
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 KnicksLost said:
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Me too....

 7 years ago '05        #149
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So the whole team for Melo??



I think I would do it though.. But I definitely would stretch it out as long as I can, trying to come up with better trades.. That trade should be last resort..
 7 years ago '09        #150
DJ Geezy 11 heat pts11
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If that trade was Melo & Lawson I'd do it...but giving up Felton & Gallo plus a 1st rounder is too much for a guy that's gonna be a free agent
 7 years ago '06        #151
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the nuggets organization is that one dumb n*gga in your fantasy league
who always ask for a lopsided trade no one will accept
 7 years ago '04        #152
LordBlanco|M 52 heat pts52
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s**t would be hilarious if Melo just leaves after the season and leaves the Nuggets with nothing...... they wanted everything but the logos on the shorts.
 7 years ago '07        #153
Bullseye 60 heat pts60
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Knicks are gonna wait till he's a Free Agent and pick him up for LESS money after the CBA is through.
 7 years ago '07        #154
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 - Streetz - said:
the nuggets organization is that one dumb n*gga in your fantasy league
who always ask for a lopsided trade no one will accept
I'm in a league with 3 n*ggaz like that
 7 years ago '07        #155
kyhoopsgoat 420 heat pts420
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This is the deal that is about to go down...:iough:

 02-15-2011, 08:33 PM         #156
cheguevara 
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i think the knicks are doing the right thing

dont give up felton for billups. yea billups right now is better than felton but what about 2 years down the road when billups is on his way out of the league?

felton is good and young, they can mold him into the pg they need him to be.

gallo,idk much about that dude so they should go head and give him up.
 02-15-2011, 08:34 PM         #157
cheguevara 
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but ill much rather see him with the lakers :whoa2: melo and kobe
 02-15-2011, 08:39 PM         #158
Ca$h Out 
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all this for gallo?
 7 years ago '04        #159
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i cant believe so many new yorkers want felton and galawho with them n*ggas they are barely a 500+ team in the nba in the west them n*ggas wouldnt even be in the playoffs sorry a.ss franchise
 7 years ago '04        #160
fat_boyy21 329 heat pts329
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gallo, felton, eddy, and a first, for melo, and billups. i hate to say it but the knicks lost. you get a top 10 player and a guy who has won a championship.

knicks (making the trade) >> knicks (not making the trade). even if they lose billups they could sign a serviceable guard or draft someone in the second round and sign for another position of need.
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