No Credibility (CHRIS BROUSSARD)... "STEVE NASH has the greatest shooting stroke of all time" (poll)

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sweetest stroke/jump shooter all time?
Ray Allen 100 48.54%
dirk Nowitzki 6 2.91%
Larry Bird 11 5.34%
Steve Nash 23 11.17%
Dale ellis 0 0%
Glen Rice 9 4.37%
Michael Jordans fadeaway 22 10.68%
Reggie miller 20 9.71%
Steve Kerr 4 1.94%
jerry west 2 0.97%
peja stojackvic 3 1.46%
stephen curry 2 0.97%
dell curry 3 1.46%
chris mullin 1 0.49%
jamaal wilkes 0 0%
Voters: 206. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 7 years ago '04        #41
Da Ill One|M 4602 heat pts4602
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I voted Chris Mullin
 7 years ago '06        #42
JamesAdamsIz808 2 heat pts
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I was watching that bulls**t this morning.
 7 years ago '05        #43
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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Rudy Gay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 02-10-2011, 02:59 PM         #44
China Man 
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1st off Chris Broussard has a solid argument... so the thread title is already a huge fail. Nash has a great stroke, it might not look as smooth as Ray Allen's, but it's technically and fundamentally sound.

There is a huge misconception about Ray's jumper, and it's quite obvious many of you haven't really gotten any basketball schooling.

Ray's actual form of shooting isn't technically sound at all, and textbook it's actually kinda f**ked up other than him using his 1st 2 fingers and thumb.

Ray's elbow sticks out A LOT, that's not how you're suppose to shoot a basketball. More than Lebron's but Lebron's elbow points to the basketball some of the time. Anybody whose actually played on a HS team or got any coaching on shooting would know the cadences of shooting the ball.

2nd, Ray Allen shoots a knuckle ball. The ball has barely ANY spin and rotation on the ball he shoots, sometimes it has absolutely none. Can't think of many, but another player that has no spin on his shot is Allen Iverson, and we all know how inconsistent his shot was.

3rd, Ray Allen doesn't have a solid arc to his shot, damn near line drive sometimes, and thats why when he bricks he bricks hard... and that's why he doesn't have a solid, nothing but net result as often as you would think... Nash does. Allen hits the rim most of the time regardless of the shot going in or out.

Look through his career % shooting numbers from year yo year, is that what you'd expect to see fromt he "purest shooter" of all time? Look at Nash's career % numbers.

And why is Carmelo Anthony not on that list? Thread starter is obviously a dumbass whose never played basketball in any serious function.

Again, obviously the media has shaped the mind of you idiots by never actually critiquing Ray's shot and just going with him being a pure shooter.

Ray Allen last year in the finals:

0-2
8-11
0-8
0-4
0-4
2-5
2-7

You going to tell me the purest shooter of all time goes more than half a series without hitting a 3 point shot, and shoots 29% from 3point land?

Year before when they got knocked out in Orlando from 3 point land

1-7
2-7
0-5
0-5
2-5
0-7
3-6

Sure it might be a choke job... and sure he's shown in the past he can shoot well in the finals/playoffs. But these inconsistencies are predictable. As a matter of fact, after that 8-11 game in LA last year, I told everyone I knew that I predicted Ray's shot would be off for the rest of the series, especially the next game. That's how he is...

I'm surprised no one listed Durant has the purest of all time... I mean his jumper is pretty close to how Ray Allen shoots with the ball a bit higher, but he got long a.ss arms...hence why Durant isn't actually a great shooter...

Sad, boxden isn't a reliable source of anything legitimate... full of n*ggas who never done anything.


Last edited by China Man; 02-10-2011 at 03:04 PM..
 7 years ago '04        #45
justinjones 307 heat pts307
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
yea he the best to bad he couldnt even come close to a f**king ring.

only lame White guys get a pass on never getting a ring dude been back to back mvp

cant play any d to save his life never could get the job done. He gets a pass. LBJ best player in the world everyday getting s**tted on cause he hasnt won 1 umm wonder why oh.
u bring up race in every situation don't you
 7 years ago '05        #46
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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Rudy Gay Shooting stroke>>>>>Ray Allen
 7 years ago '05        #47
THEINFAMOUS 19 heat pts19
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 fmoney88 said:

Also Dirk Nowitzki is a better shooter than ray allen
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 02-10-2011, 03:07 PM         #48
Liquid Oxygen 
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I voted Ray Allen, but Steve Nash is No. 2 in my opinion. Both are incredible shooters and some of the best ever the NBA has ever seen.
 02-10-2011, 03:07 PM         #49
China Man 
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Melo shooting stroke >>>> Ray.
 7 years ago '05        #50
DevTheDude 
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If we're talking purely aesthetics, Lefties >>>> Righties ...So I went with the king of the buzzcut Chris Mullen...

not to take anything away from Ray Ray, Steve, and the lot.
 02-10-2011, 03:10 PM         #51
antdog 
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i agree
 7 years ago '09        #52
5_star_smitty|m 208 heat pts208
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wait...
u have steph curry on the list & not DELL curry
 7 years ago '09        #53
5_star_smitty|m 208 heat pts208
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 fmoney88 said:
steve nash does havethe greatest shooting stroke ever. Steve nash has the "textbook" shooting form. And in my opinion he is just as good a shooter or even a better shooter than ray allen.

If hes talking about acuaracy and shooting form, then yes steve nash has the best stroke. Steve nash is the best shooter in the nba point blank period.

Ray Allen gets easier shots than Steve, since hes on a much better team with other players that defense has to focus in on.
 fmoney88 said:
you cant have a good stroke and shoot a low percentage.

Ben Wallace has a good shooting form, but hes one of the worst shooters ever.

KD has a good shooting form, but hes a volume shooter...

IF you say kd's stroke is getting up there, then you have to mention Lebron, who shoots a higher 3 point percentage, and has a higher mid range jumper percentage

Also Dirk Nowitzki is a better shooter than ray allen
everyday i say to myself "this dude can't get any dumber"...
then day after day, post after post, he just proves me wrong
 02-10-2011, 03:26 PM         #54
China Man 
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 5_star_smitty said:
wait...
u have steph curry on the list & not DELL curry
Are you f**kin blind?
 02-10-2011, 03:29 PM         #55
China Man 
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 5_star_smitty said:
everyday i say to myself "this dude can't get any dumber"...
then day after day, post after post, he just proves me wrong
 5_star_smitty said:
wait...
u have steph curry on the list & not DELL curry

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 7 years ago '10        #56
mcruz 2 heat pts
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 AK Nako said:
Reggie Miller???

How can you even claim to have ever watched basketball and put his form anywhere but near the bottom? He's one of the greatest shooters ever, no doubt, but his shot was just plain ugly.

He'd slap his wrists together! Reggie shot like a 10 yr old with no muscles.

Or are we not talking about form? Cuz for everything else, there's stats. That's not debatable, you can just look at the numbers and percentages.
This!

Reggie has horrible form, but undoubtedly is one of the best shooters of all time . In fact if I needed someone to take a game winning 3, Reggie would probably be my first pick. But damn that form was ugly.

Ray Allen on the other hand, in my opinion, has the purest form ever. Like someone else said, he uses he whole body, knows the importance of getting your legs into your shot, and following through. Its art to me.

And putting Steve Nash in this argument isnt a mistake. His shot is really textbook, and we all know about his stats, but I wouldnt say his shot is the best of all time.

IN NO ORDER: TOP 3
RAY RAY > MILLER > LARRY LEGEND
 02-10-2011, 03:31 PM         #57
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not gonna front though....glenn rice's stroke was consistent,and STRONG...had that high release was text book...great form..



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 7 years ago '09        #58
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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Thread wont be complete until every player listed has a vote.
 02-10-2011, 03:35 PM         #59
China Man 
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 mcruz said:

Ray Allen on the other hand, in my opinion, has the purest form ever. Like someone else said, he uses he whole body, knows the importance of getting your legs into your shot, and following through. Its art to me.
WTF? Almost all shooters in the NBA "follow through" with their shot, and uses their legs... if they didn't the shots would be blocked half the time. Ever been to a real NBA game? If so, you'd see how high these n*ggas jump with they shoot.

Again, another moron...
 02-10-2011, 03:42 PM         #60
China Man 
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lol, Reggie and Ray have similarities in their shot, their elbows are out and they both shot knuckle balls...


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