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 7 years ago '11        #21
Joseph 13 heat pts13
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 #21 said:
to be fair wall would easily be averagin 10 a.ssists if he didn't play baby minutes in a ton of games this year beause of his injuries.

pass first pg's > score first pg's imo. if a team is relying on a pg to be their #1 scorer they more than likely aren't going far in the playoffs

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 7 years ago '05        #22
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 StylinOnYou said:
calm down bro, you actin like the pacers and 76s dont already have some decent veteran players to lead them like Granger and Iguodola, Wall has to lead his team as a rookie. And besides Wall can lead his team to the playoffs if they learn to win on the road, and besides Wall has potential to be a better POINT guard than Rose cause he's already averaging 9 a.ssists a game when his best option is Nick Young, while Rose has Boozer and Deng
If you can't get contention when the 8th seed is 14-28, I'm not trying to hear that noise, it shows an inability to carry a team to wins.. Great players have that knack of willing their teams to victories.. Making s**t teams into respectable teams.. Making trash into a playoff team..

15 wins is all it takes to be in the playoff spot right now..

Bulls went 41-41 with Noah/Deng/Hinrich as the main supporting cast Wall has Hinrich/McGee/Young/Al Thorton/Josh Howard/Rashard Lewis, far deeper team than what we had last year.
 7 years ago '08        #23
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Monta>Rose
 7 years ago '07        #24
st21 1233 heat pts1233
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Gilbert's an SG.
he was a pg before wall. and he did pretty much what rose is doing now and the wiz never had success in the playoffs just like the bulls havn't with rose leading them in scoring every night.
 7 years ago '07        #25
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 Hold That said:
Outside of Magic johnson, pass first PG's have nothing but failed in this league..

Derrick Rose in the crunch putting his team on his back>>>> A PG who's best move is too defer...
I garuntee D.Rose will never miss a playoff in his career.. We play this game to compete and win, not post up 10ast.
PG's are supposed to defer...
 7 years ago '05        #26
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 niceguy954 said:
really?? all opponents got to do it leave this courtside near him...


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he will be too shook to even touch the roc

i can name 50 nba players that won't let a phase them
maybe you should have relayed that message to Wade last night, because he needed all the help he could get when dealing with Rose..
 7 years ago '05        #27
Junior G 114 heat pts114
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GAME 1 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END
GAME 2 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END
GAME 5 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END
GAME 6 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END (BLOWOUT THE WHOLE WAY)

4 OUT OF 6 GAMES RONDO PLAYED UNTIL THE END IN THE NBA FINALS......I KNO YOU CLOWNS HATE IT WHEN I BRING OUT THAT HEAVY STRONG k!llER N s**t ON YA FABLE STORIES
 7 years ago '05        #28
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 KeepinItTrill said:
PG's are supposed to defer...
PG's are suppose to do it all.. Defer/Score/rebound/run the offense/ play defense, and be basically an extension of the coach out there.. Rose does all these things and have been balanced at them all..
 7 years ago '04        #29
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Rondo only has a ring because he plays with three Hall of Famers... D. Rose plays with ZERO Hall of Famers...so I approve of this thread.
 7 years ago '07        #30
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 Hold That said:
PG's are suppose to do it all.. Defer/Score/rebound/run the offense/ play defense, and be basically an extension of the coach out there.. Rose does all these things and have been balanced at them all..
Rose is a great player, but a PG is supposed to be pass-first and you know that.
 7 years ago '11        #31
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Gilbert's an SG.
combo guard, they moved him to sg when wall was drafted and now he plays sg for the magic
 7 years ago '05        #32
Junior G 114 heat pts114
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 KeepinItTrill said:
Rose is a great player, but a PG is supposed to be pass-first and you know that.
no he doesn't know that he's an idiot that's why his favorite player is Iverson jr.....a loser with stats
 7 years ago '08        #33
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 #21 said:
give me a pass first pg and a great supporting cast any day over the bulls current situation.
word..chicago fans think rose gonna carry the team to the finals and win
they will pass to 2nd round at best
 7 years ago '05        #34
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 KeepinItTrill said:
Rose is a great player, but a PG is supposed to be pass-first and you know that.
A PG is suppose to lead the team, a PG is suppose to have many duties which is why they are considered the QB of the team and true leader.. If defering is not getting your team wins(see Wall,see Nash) then you better start putting the ball in the hoop..
 7 years ago '05        #35
Junior G 114 heat pts114
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Rondo's game log from the Finals

15 points, 7 a.ssists, 5 rebounds
4 points, 16 a.ssists, 6 rebounds
8 points, 4 a.ssists, 2 rebounds
5 points, 2 a.ssists, 1 rebound
3 points, 3 a.ssists, 2 rebounds
21 points, 8 a.ssists, 7 rebounds

look at that last one in a CLINCHING game in the NBA FINALS :wow:


his presence alone is enough
 7 years ago '11        #36
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 Hold That said:
If you can't get contention when the 8th seed is 14-28, I'm not trying to hear that noise, it shows an inability to carry a team to wins.. Great players have that knack of willing their teams to victories.. Making s**t teams into respectable teams.. Making trash into a playoff team..

15 wins is all it takes to be in the playoff spot right now..

Bulls went 41-41 with Noah/Deng/Hinrich as the main supporting cast Wall has Hinrich/McGee/Young/Al Thorton/Josh Howard/Rashard Lewis, far deeper team than what we had last year.
Josh Howard is a.sscheek, and the bulls supportin cast had more experience, Thorton isn't a difference maker. Besides IF the wizards knew how to play on the raod they'd be the 8 seed
they're 11 and 8 at home, they just don't do s**t on the raod. Also the league has gotten tougher since Rose's rookie year. Wizards play in a division with the heat magic and atlanta, while all the other teams in the bulls division are mediocre and under 500
 7 years ago '08        #37
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 Junior G said:
GAME 1 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END
GAME 2 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END
GAME 5 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END
GAME 6 - RONDO WAS IN THERE UNTIL THE END (BLOWOUT THE WHOLE WAY)

4 OUT OF 6 GAMES RONDO PLAYED UNTIL THE END IN THE NBA FINALS......I KNO YOU CLOWNS HATE IT WHEN I BRING OUT THAT HEAVY STRONG k!llER N s**t ON YA FABLE STORIES
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n*ggas forget that Rondo dropped 21pts, 8ast, 7reb, 6stl on game 6 and act like he did nothin
 7 years ago '05        #38
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It's funny how Deron Williams the #1 PG in the league is dropping 22 points a game is somehow not considered a scoring PG.. He can score and pass, but please believe in the crunch he's shooting the rock.
 7 years ago '07        #39
KeepinItTrill 30 heat pts30
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
On what planet?

In case you haven't noticed, most points guards in the NBA can score now.

Paul
Rose
Deron
Westbrook
Davis
Parker
Nash
Felton
Harris
Billups
Wall
Curry
Brooks
Jennings
Nelson
has nothing to do with ability, has to do with the duties that come with being a PG. Scoring isn't # 1 on that list of duties bruh...
 7 years ago '05        #40
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 KeepinItTrill said:
has nothing to do with ability, has to do with the duties that come with being a PG. Scoring isn't # 1 on that list of duties bruh...
he averages 8 a.ssist so you saying he can't pass now? #1 list of duties is to effectively run the offense.. Just so happens Rose IS the offense.
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