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 7 years ago '06        #1141
philly337 20 heat pts20
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mpel calls +100%
 7 years ago '08        #1142
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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great close on EBAY...right at the resistance line.
 7 years ago '06        #1143
philly337 20 heat pts20
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calls for the day


Gacfq +725%
Nbri +150%
Remd +125%
Mpel +100% ($8.00 calls)
Frmc +70%
Orrv +70%
Goig +50%
Grne +40%
Egoc +38%
Ufsm +25%
 7 years ago '06        #1144
philly337 20 heat pts20
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07 can't reply on the other thread but what u mean 60% on the day

If u take all my alerts and not lock in profits and where they closed would still be +190-200% on the day

Closing pps

Mpel +100%
Remo +25%
Orrv +16%
Goig +22%
Grne -10%
Ufsm +5%
Egoc +38%

Only called 2 others over the weekend and are even

Even if u count aenc it was +10% and no way would hold on that drop but just for the sake of the argument thats still only -55% so id still be +135%


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 7 years ago '06        #1145
philly337 20 heat pts20
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unless ur counting mpel actual gain and not calls...
 7 years ago '08        #1146
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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LOL ^^^ You have to divide the gains by the number of stocks.

If I have $1,000 and I put in $333 into 3 stocks that each go up 20% it's not a total of 60% gains.

20 + 20 + 20 = 60% yes...but..

20% on $333 would be $66. $66 x 3 = $198 total gain. $198 on $1,000 is 19.8% return...or 20%.

At the end of the day it's 20% not 60%. Can't add the %'s together and leave it that haha..otherwise I'd be a billionaire by now
 7 years ago '06        #1147
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 o7media said:
LOL ^^^ You have to divide the gains by the number of stocks.

If I have $1,000 and I put in $333 into 3 stocks that each go up 20% it's not a total of 60% gains.

20 + 20 + 20 = 60% yes...but..

20% on $333 would be $66. $66 x 3 = $198 total gain. $198 on $1,000 is 19.8% return...or 20%.

At the end of the day it's 20% not 60%. Can't add the %'s together and leave it that haha..otherwise I'd be a billionaire by now
yea off ur total account..i'm not keeping a journal here and not trading with real money

that's like saying if i post a 100% gainer it doesn't count as a 100% gainer because somebody might have only put 10% of their account in it making it a 10% gain because it only increased the entire account by 10%
 7 years ago '08        #1148
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 philly337 said:
yea off ur total account..i'm not keeping a journal here and not trading with real money

that's like saying if i post a 100% gainer it doesn't count as a 100% gainer because somebody might have only put 10% of their account in it making it a 10% gain because it only increased the entire account by 10%
...what? that example made no sense lol. % gain is based on your investment.

if someone is trading with $1,000 and they put 10% into that stock ($100) and it goes up 100% then they sold they would have made $100 profit and 100% on their investment.

If your theory were correct the only way it would be possible is if you have access to unlimited funds in a cash account to avoid the T3 rule. Otherwise you can't buy 10 stocks a day and keep adding the gains up like that. And they would still flag you as a pattern day trader.


If I have $1,000 in my account and I put all of it in 1 stock that goes up 100% or split it up between 3 stocks and they all go up 100% there's no difference lol

At the end of the day there would be $2,000 in the account either way. Actually, no there would be less doing it your way when you count fees. Your just working 3 times as hard now for the same gains.

That's why we divide


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 7 years ago '06        #1149
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 o7media said:
...what? that example made no sense lol. % gain is based on your investment.

if someone is trading with $1,000 and they put 10% into that stock ($100) and it goes up 100% then they sold they would have made $100 profit and 100% on their investment.

If your theory were correct the only way it would be possible is if you have access to unlimited funds in a cash account to avoid the T3 rule. Otherwise you can't buy 10 stocks a day and keep adding the gains up like that.


If I have $1,000 in my account and I put all of it in 1 stock that goes up 100% or split it up between 3 stocks and they all go up 100% there's no difference lol

At the end of the day there would be $2,000 in the account either way. Actually, no there would be less doing it your way when you count fees. Your just working 3 times as hard now for the same gains.

That's why we divide
I dont think ur understanding...I'm not trading with real money or even paper trading so x amount of dollars divided does not apply. Im simple providing picks I think are going and see how far they take off. U said it urself if the t3 rule didnt Apply..well for what I'm doing they dont. Ill give u two examples..

1. I have a 1k acct...my strategy is 1 stock a week using 1k. If each week for the month of april I get a 100% gain it goes
Week 1 : 100% gain 2000
Week 2 : 100% gain 3000
Week 3 : 100% gain 4000
Week 4 : 100% gain 5000

Started with 1k now have 5k +400% (100%+100%+100%+100%=400%)

2. Lets say I have 1k and somebody will lend me 10 k I have to pay back. I buy 11 stocks that all double in 1 day and pay back the 10k. I turned my 1k into 12k (+1100%.....100+100+100+100+100+100+100+100+100+10 0+100)
 7 years ago '06        #1150
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 o7media said:
INIX .0007 +133% ...take profits here.
^^^ use this as an example

By what ur sayin if somebody didnt put 100% of their accounts funds (which I doubt anybody did) in this then its not a 133% gain. If somebody put 50% of their account on the stock they can claim ur call was only +66%

No because "the stock" u picked not the money gained on their total capital went up 133%. Just like the stocks I picked today went up 500% (not money gained on somebodies total capital)
 7 years ago '08        #1151
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 philly337 said:
I dont think ur understanding...I'm not trading with real money or even paper trading so x amount of dollars divided does not apply. Im simple providing picks I think are going and see how far they take off. U said it urself if the t3 rule didnt Apply..well for what I'm doing they dont. Ill give u two examples..

1. I have a 1k acct...my strategy is 1 stock a week using 1k. If each week for the month of april I get a 100% gain it goes
Week 1 : 100% gain 2000
Week 2 : 100% gain 3000
Week 3 : 100% gain 4000
Week 4 : 100% gain 5000

Started with 1k now have 5k +400% (100%+100%+100%+100%=400%)

2. Lets say I have 1k and somebody will lend me 10 k I have to pay back. I buy 11 stocks that all double in 1 day and pay back the 10k. I turned my 1k into 12k (+1100%.....100+100+100+100+100+100+100+100+100+10 0+100)
Uhhh....seriously?

Example 1 was what I said.

Example 2 is based on day trading 10 stocks a day simultaneously and all of them going up 100% which is not only extremely hard but very unrealistic.

And what you said in the first paragraph is what I'm saying.... since you're not actually trading it doesn't apply. It's almost impossible to do that with real money.

When you can turn 11k into 22k in 1 day by trading 11 different penny stocks with real money...let me know and I'll fund that 10k account for you ASAP
 7 years ago '08        #1152
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 philly337 said:
^^^ use this as an example

By what ur sayin if somebody didnt put 100% of their accounts funds (which I doubt anybody did) in this then its not a 133% gain. If somebody put 50% of their account on the stock they can claim ur call was only +66%

No because "the stock" u picked not the money gained on their total capital went up 133%. Just like the stocks I picked today went up 500% (not money gained on somebodies total capital)
Oh god....I see I have to grab this pic again.

You clearly don't get it.


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 7 years ago '08        #1153
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philly ..it's like this.

The % gain is based off your investment size not based on the size of your account. Your last post is the opposite of what I'm saying.

Example 1:
I alerted INIX at .0002 x .0003. If someone has $1,000 in their account and puts all $1,000 into INIX at .0003 and sold it at .0007 it would now be worth $2,333 which is a 133% correct?

Example 2:

If another person has $1,000 in their account and puts $500 into INIX at .0003 and sold it at .0007 it would now be worth $1,166

If they then put the other $500 into their account that they have not invested yet into another stock that goes up 133% it too would then be worth $1,166 correct?

$1,166 + $1,166 = $2,333

At the end of the day they both have the same return, except the first person did it with 1 stock and the 2nd person did it with 2 stocks.
 7 years ago '08        #1154
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Basically what you're saying is if I find 20 stocks tomorrow that each go up only 5% for the day my picks for the day went up 100%

Because 5% x 20 stocks = 100%

If you seriously think that then damn...idk what to say to you anymore
 7 years ago '06        #1155
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 o7media said:
philly ..it's like this.

The % gain is based off your investment size not based on the size of your account. Your last post is the opposite of what I'm saying.

Example 1:
I alerted INIX at .0002 x .0003. If someone has $1,000 in their account and puts all $1,000 into INIX at .0003 and sold it at .0007 it would now be worth $2,333 which is a 133% correct?

Example 2:

If another person has $1,000 in their account and puts $500 into INIX at .0003 and sold it at .0007 it would now be worth $1,166

If they then put the other $500 into their account that they have not invested yet into another stock that goes up 133% it too would then be worth $1,166 correct?

$1,166 + $1,166 = $2,333

At the end of the day they both have the same return, except the first person did it with 1 stock and the 2nd person did it with 2 stocks.


ur clearly not getting it..once again i am not claiming anybody could have increased their total capital on their account by +500% in one day.I'm not mentioning money at all....i'm making picks and tracking how much they gain

Example 1. Again that's if somebody invested 100% of their account in inix.If somebody had a 10k account they would not in no way put 100% of their money in inix.Let's say they put 1,000 of their 10,000 on inix and it ran 133%. Their total capital increased from 10,000 to 11,330. Now....did your STOCK PICK increase 133% or did your STOCK PICK increase 13%?

Example 2. WTF?I would be trading with 11,000 dollars if i borrowed 10,000 and had a 1,000 spread over 11 stocks....not sure where ur theory tied into my example


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 7 years ago '08        #1156
o7media 47 heat pts47 OP
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 philly337 said:


ur clearly not getting it..once again i am not claiming anybody could have increased their total capital on their account by +500% in one day.I'm not mentioning money at all....i'm making picks and tracking how much they gain

Example 1. Again that's if somebody invested 100% of their account in inix.If somebody had a 10k account they would not in no way put 100% of their money in inix.Let's say they put 1,000 of their 10,000 on inix and it ran 133%. Their total capital increased from 10,000 to 11,330. Now....did your STOCK PICK increase 133% or did your STOCK PICK increase 13%?

Example 2. WTF?I would be trading with 11,000 dollars if i borrowed 10,000 and had a 1,000 spread over 11 stocks....not sure where ur theory tied into my example
Dude you keep taking L's. Everything you're saying to try and prove me wrong is proving what you're saying is wrong.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER....the % gain is based on your investment size not your account size. Whether you put in $100 or $10,000 into something ...IT DOES NOT MATTER

If someone turns $100 into $200 that's a 100% gain. If someone turns $10,000 into $20,000 that's a 100% gain. I'm not sure why you're not understanding it.
 7 years ago '08        #1157
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 o7media said:
Basically what you're saying is if I find 20 stocks tomorrow that each go up only 5% for the day my picks for the day went up 100%

Because 5% x 20 stocks = 100%
Philly....is this what you're saying is correct? If you find 20 stocks tomorrow and they each go up 5% that means for the day your picks are up 100%?

REALLY?

 7 years ago '06        #1158
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 o7media said:
Uhhh....seriously?

Example 1 was what I said.

Example 2 is based on day trading 10 stocks a day simultaneously and all of them going up 100% which is not only extremely hard but very unrealistic.

And what you said in the first paragraph is what I'm saying.... since you're not actually trading it doesn't apply. It's almost impossible to do that with real money.

When you can turn 11k into 22k in 1 day by trading 11 different penny stocks with real money...let me know and I'll fund that 10k account for you ASAP
No example 1 is not what u said...u said u can't add percentages...i showed example where u could

Example 2 doesnt matter if its unrealistic I just used round numbers to make it clear. U could use smaller percentages and same answer
 7 years ago '06        #1159
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 o7media said:
Dude you keep taking L's. Everything you're saying to try and prove me wrong is proving what you're saying is wrong.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER....the % gain is based on your investment size not your account size. Whether you put in $100 or $10,000 into something ...IT DOES NOT MATTER

If someone turns $100 into $200 that's a 100% gain. If someone turns $10,000 into $20,000 that's a 100% gain. I'm not sure why you're not understanding it.
Wow this guy...I'm not even getting into these essays im keeping to the question u keep dodging

If somebody has a 10k account and invested 1k in inix that gained 133%. Was "your stock pick gain" 133% or 13% because thats all some john doe invested

If u say ur alert was 133% I'm right.....if u say 13% go edit ur post
 7 years ago '08        #1160
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 philly337 said:
No example 1 is not what u said...u said u can't add percentages...i showed example where u could

Example 2 doesnt matter if its unrealistic I just used round numbers to make it clear. U could use smaller percentages and same answer
NO EXAMPLE 1 IS WHAT I SAID.

 philly337 said:

1. I have a 1k acct...my strategy is 1 stock a week using 1k. If each week for the month of april I get a 100% gain it goes
Week 1 : 100% gain 2000
Week 2 : 100% gain 3000
Week 3 : 100% gain 4000
Week 4 : 100% gain 5000

Started with 1k now have 5k +400% (100%+100%+100%+100%=400%)

2. Lets say I have 1k and somebody will lend me 10 k I have to pay back. I buy 11 stocks that all double in 1 day and pay back the 10k. I turned my 1k into 12k (+1100%.....100+100+100+100+100+100+100+100+100+10 0+100)
I said THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE in 1 stock going up 100% on your entire portfolio versus 11 stocks going up 100% each on your entire portfolio.

You cannot be serious dude.

Your 2 examples are completely different. In example 1 you're starting with 1k and doubling it each week WITH 1 STOCK. In example 2 you're starting with 11k and investing 1k into 11 different stocks that each go up 100%.

And yes it does matter if it's unrealistic or not. That's the whole point. If it's not realistic then why even bring it up?
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