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 7 years ago '06        #221
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 JaiMega said:
Can you not use my government? I may have to report you for breaching privacy.
hitting a little too close to home, huh? report me to who -- ronnie?


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 01-11-2011, 10:31 PM         #222
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 7 years ago '09        #223
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racism does not equal prejudice plus power.


Definition of RACISM
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: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
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: racial prejudice or discrimination







what youre talking about is institutional racism, which is just one form of racism.


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 7 years ago '06        #224
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 Ricky Towel said:
racism does not equal prejudice plus power.


Definition of RACISM
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: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
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: racial prejudice or discrimination







what youre talking about is institutional racism, which is just one form of racism.

did you even read the definition? how can there be "inherent superiority" without a discrepancy in power?
are you gonna try and convince me that black people have any significant social capital in a country/world run by white privilege?

give me an example of a black person being racist towards a white person.
 7 years ago '04        #225
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 JaiMega said:
So are you saying it was far from hard and rather easy. Therefore it should be forgiven?
Obviously not.

Nice try.

One should never forget history, but understand the results that have come about from it at the same time.

History needs to be analyzed as well as studied.
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 Vdot88 said:
Yeah, except white people (males AND females) benefit more than anyone else. I wonder why that is? Are white people just better from the jump? You're right though, white privilege runs the world.
We have the legal freedom to do as we choose, now.

Are you going to waste it, by complaining about what someone else is doing, or are you going to do something with it?

One can talk about the white man until one is blue in the face.....talk is cheap.


 Vdot88 said:
Free in degrees, perhaps. You telling me because black people (and other minorities) are free to live like they please without the scourge of institutional racism, which is somehow better than the centuries of de jure racism?
Somehow?

Are we still being whipped or in chains?

Are we still FORCED to go to another land because we were sold to an owner (sold by other Africans)?

Are we still 3/5 of a person, legally?

Didn't think so.


 Vdot88 said:
Pointing to slavery and racism as an avenue of analysis for the present is not scapegoating.
Slavery or racism?

Those are two different conversations, believe it or not.

Get your issue(s) straight.


 Vdot88 said:
That stuff really happened, it happens today, and it has affected and still affects generations of people. But I bet you'd enjoy it if black people just shut up about it and pretended it didn't happen, huh?
I never said that.

You want to put words in my mouth now?

It takes nothing to know (a little) history, it's everything to learn from it.

What are you going to try and say next?

That I think racism doesn't exist?


 Vdot88 said:
Yeah, we do. There are historical documents: first hand accounts, pictures, oral history, etc.
Which doesn't even begin to describe the personal severities of slaves back then.

PERSONALLY, we don't know the first thing about how hard things were 400 years ago.

So WE need to stop relating their sufferings to our daily experiences, because we don't know what it was like to be whipped, chained, or to NOT have any of the freedoms that we have today.


 Vdot88 said:
You want to deny history - or just the history that doesn't favor a certain (powerful) group?
Ummm.....I'm the one who pointed that out to you.


 Vdot88 said:
Yes, white people are just gonna voluntarily give up white privilege...umm, no.
White privilege is being used against whites as well.

That was my original point.

We're all in this together......remember?


 Vdot88 said:
Theoretically you're right. Reality is far from the truth though.
"We're all equal, but some people are more equal than others."
And it doesn't have a damn thing to do with skin color anymore.

You have more in common with the person (black, white, etc.) next to you on a regular day than any of these politicians, ball players, media "reporters", corporate CEO's, etc.

People are still having problems understanding that, which is why we f!ght with each other on a constant basis whenever THEY want us to.

Get the picture?
 7 years ago '06        #227
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And it doesn't have a damn thing to do with skin color anymore.
i see where you're going with this..you're setting up a populist dichotomy. in reality, race still matters a great deal. that is undeniable. you're deluded if you believe otherwise.
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